Mini Normal 2040: Day 4

[Auro]

@EJ: When you spoke about 'informed' earlier, you meant mafia being informed of someone's role in mod mail? Or he's informed vanilla town and because of that your PR is a give away, so that pisses you off?

@BEF: You sure scum would want to directly wagon on right after one another? I felt it was NAI, the wagoning.

[Elsa Jay]

At this point He's not co-operative so I'll explain it.

If He's scum: he knows if mafia is informed or not, and if there's no real Daycop his partner wont waste a shot on me because at that point he KNOWS I'm lying.

If He's a Vanilla Townie who fucked up a gambit: He should have called me out by now and rescinded his claim so we dont fucking lynch him. Actually, we'll lynch him anyway, but we atleast let him try to give his actual case on me instead of a fake Daycop.

Whether I'm really Daycop or not in either of these situations doesnt matter. I still know he isn't Daycop because the results are wrong,

[Sashaddin]

OMGWTFBBQ!!!!111
Since I went to sleep: five pages, two claims and an ice cream truck.

After reading this, I think I recognize the flailing of BEF, I was his target in our last game and he turned out as scum.
I

intent to hammer BEF

, but I'll wait after I get done with my son's Halloween run tonight. I won't do it without a few veterans opinion though.

Is it common to see Day-something roles? This is the first I see.

[Elsa Jay]

Usually not in Mini Normals, but not impossible. If you play Larger games it's more likely to happen.

Doesnt matter though. He's not Daycop.

[Almost50]

3. Your opinion of the Tictac slot hasn't changed when Clemency came in, you're still suspicious (379).
4. In 130 and 336 you have me as town, then town lean. In 381I'm implicitly not town anymore.

I'll respond in bits:

3. 379 clealy states the reason to be suspicious of Carmen. It has nothing to do with tictac anymore.
4. I had you as Town "for now". It was preliminary readlist that included some joke/humour reads. Then I had you as Town lean, and still there. I don't "explicitly" TR you =/= I explicitly have you as not town. An explicit TR = just that a TOWN READ. You are only a Town lean, thus not explicitly a TR. Got it?

<To Be Continued>

[Auro]

Loads to process, but a couple thoughts.

THEN WHY DO YOU ASSUME THERE IS A DOCTOR AS A FUCKING DAYCOP.

Think of Balance, bro. A Daycop WITHOUT macho and you think there's a Doc in a 10p?

All I know is that you are anti-town.

*This* looks the most flail-y. BEF seems experienced enough to know a non masochist Daycop would imply no doctor, right? Sounds like the sorta thing you'd say when flailing.

Also disturbing is how he treats Clem and EJ as

equal

scumreads and later goes on to say he's 100% on EJ. Also, says 'gut' for Clem but

then

tries to make a case.


Although:

EJ responded very fast after I asked about crumbs, but I don't see why she'd crumb/claim VC over Daycop. She says "Was originally gonna claim Vanilla Cop, but then this Smurfer came along with this.", @EJ could you explain that again? I don't really follow 551, I'll try to make sense of it.

Also So you saw the slot needing a replacement, checked, then got A50 into it. Interesting that that was your best use of a day cop in D1. You trust A50's reads *that* much?

Also why claim when votes weren't shifting to you, and he might have been lynched anyway?

[DrDolittle]

vote count 1.08

Day 1, Vote Count 8

BrightEyedFish

(5) : DVa, Auro, Clemency, Elsa Jay, Not_Mafia

(L-1)

Elsa Jay

(2) : Carmen, BrightEyedFish

Carmen

(1) : ofrhz

Not_Mafia

(0) :

Auro

(0) :

DVa

(0) :

Almost50

(0) :

orfhz

(0) :

Clemency

(0) :

Sashaddin

(0) :

Not voting:

: Almost50, Sashaddin

with 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

day one will end with no lynch in (expired on 2018-11-09 19:00:00)

[Almost50]

1-a) Was it your intention to be a leader in this game or was it the N_M thing that got you to the front?
1-b) What about Day 2 and your lynching potential?

I won't directly respond to these, but instead let me tell you a shot story: Check this out. I was s sub-in and I acted a s Town Leader and we won on D1. This was the game directly after the AP game we shared.

So, I had a confidence boost and I was optimistic.

Now you look like you're good at some basic level reads, but you don't do much of the higher level scum hunting. If you remember (and I'm sure you do) I tried to L-1 someone early as AP. Here, I tried the same, just not in the exact same manner (i.e. I didn't try to do it myself, but rather wanted to state intent and get a claim). Do you see any similarities at all? What was my alignment there?

The fact tictac snapped over it doesn't make me feel good about the slot. Also if you compare the posting styles you'd see he provided huge walls early on and has been poking people with specific questions there which didn't happen here.

As for D2, let's leave that to D2. I get NK'd on N1 more often than you know, so I don't think much about D2 unless it actually starts with me still in the game. In short, I'll worry about D2 when we get there. Right now I just want to lynch scum.

<tbc>

[Almost50]

2-Not a question, but if you see a tell like this in me just tell me please
2-a) Will you defend N_M to the last day since you're persuaded he's town?

OK.

I probably would. If there's an explicit guilty on him though I won't, but will learn that this tell is now void.

[Almost50]

3-a) You don't like that slot with either player in it, why aren't you putting it at L-1 (since M_M is on it)?

4-a) Why? What did I do?

Because then I would need someone else to state intent in order to get that claim. Sometimes you sit on a wagon too long and the player stalls based on "nobody stated intent" so it's useless. I'm not putting Carmen @L-1 for the sake of it. I want to get a claim from this specific slot. Carmen could even save us all the trouble (and some time) by claiming now.

As for the last one, I don't understand the question. Why what? Do where?

[DVa]

UNVOTE:

No hammer until everyone has processes this show and had enough time to come up with some good memes

[Clemency]

uh, the fuck?

[Almost50]

Clem und Elsa = Scum

VOTE: Elsa Jay

So, both are scum so you opt to vote the one with no wagon on them and refrain from putting the one with the wagon @L-1?? DVa sure has this one right I guess.

[Clemency]

maybe he's trying to orchestrate a scene with someone in the wagon?? scum daychat is on, right?

i'm not gonna say anything but keep it in mind

[Almost50]

I'm 100% sure EJ is not town

Tell me more.

Also, EJ is never Town. His standard win con is SURVIVORm regardless of the wording and/or colour in his PM!

[Almost50]

d reasoning? I'm not sharing that view.

Share a fact with us then. Humour us, mate.

[Almost50]

are you trying to get hammered?

Hammer me and we go down 0-2 instead of 1-1

OK, so since I'm -obviously- drawing a link between the two, I'd say this is SvS which translates:
- Are you trying to get yourself lynched?
- No. I'm trying to establish a connection between you and EJ, so if I get lynched you are safe and if you get lynched EJ follows (1v1), but if you are the one hammering me then it's likely it will backfire and you will follow (0-2).

[Almost50]

That's assuming Scum gets town with a nk

Trying to remedy the situation after the fact?

[Clemency]

uh, you might wanna read the rest of the posts before you make a claim that strong

[Almost50]

I've pretty much claimed.

Where? I didn't see it! Unless you have a DAY COP or something.

[Clemency]

no seriously read the rest of the posts this is very unnecessary and you're putting a lot of stuff out of context for everyone

[Almost50]

this seems like really amateurish scum play which wouldn't add up for the age of bef's account

He has 348 posts overall. But nice try.
As for amateurishm check his previous game where he posted in the wrong thread (main thread instead on the scum PT) and when he tried to correct it he claimed it was a PM to the mod (totally different interface). I wouldn't put some amateurish behavior beyond BEF tbh.

[Clemency]

does he do this every time

[Elsa Jay]

He's old man rambling plus it lets us see his thought process. Let him do it. It helps us in the long run.

[Clemency]

i mean does it? it just feels like he's taking everything really out of context
how does this help our case