Open 738: Purgatory | LA FIN

[Creature]

was I replaced from this game?

[Creature]

Man, me sleeping three hours during afternoon isn't normal.

[Creature]

Mafia Role PM

Spoiler:

You are a

Goon

(aligned with the town).

Your teammates are: […]
You can talk to them at any time on the mafia chat. [Link]

Each phase you may vote a player in order to send them to Heaven or Hell.

You win when majority of the Mafia is sent to Heaven.
You lose when majority of the Mafia is sent to Hell.

[link] to the game thread.

btw

@manatee

, just noticed that you put "aligned with the

town

" in the example mafia role-card

lmao

you can be town

[Creature]

Let's see if this is the game that will bring my happiness back

[Creature]

Oh, you're an alt

[Creature]

:/

[Creature]

whaddup

VOTE: Keyser

GOATs only

What's up with the alts?

[Creature]

should've brought my personal pet

[Creature]

I'm not gonna answer the questions, I answered before.
just no, I've had enough
sorry

and I'm not gonna answer the bullshit ones

you can listen to that instead

???

[Creature]

Cool I almost posted in a game that ended months ago

[Creature]

now bye

Bye

[Creature]

Maybe I do better alone...

[Creature]

and c'mon, someone write sth
it's boring being here alone

hehe

[Creature]

Godammit! Still haven't rolled scum with the worst

Who did you roll scum with?

[Creature]

Oh good, atleast Dr Jekyll and whatever isn't composed of users I never heard of

[Creature]

Jesus this site formatting makes phone posting hard

You've seen nothing

[Creature]

Uh? Lefty, any game you didn't replace out?

[Creature]

Don't take it hard, I replaced out in two of my first three games and I almost replaced out in the third.

[Creature]

I’m sure I’ll be fine it’s just a pain making sure all the brackets and stuff are correct

I play on this little site that has maybe a couple dozen regs at the most. They’re been the Champ Series a few times though, going back to when it was hosted on 2+2. DragonMount?

Are you from DragonMount forums then?

I confess I've been interested on that forums lately.

[Creature]

@the worst

fair enough

This pace is gonna kill me. I’m used to like 48h deadlines

Don't worry, we can make this fastpaced. All you gotta do is decide on a suspect fast then bring that suspect pretty close to lynch.

[Creature]

also tbh I like this setup

just don't send me to heaven the first heaven phase.

[Creature]

Korina should hopefully be here soon.

hopefully

[Creature]

Also, where the hell is Creature? I just realized that he's in the game trying to see who we haven't heard from.
If Creature keeps up this activity, I think its very safe to assume that he is scum.

-Kor

You've been in that game where I've been humilatingly called low-threat.

[Creature]

also I don't zeropost intentionally for too long as scum

[Creature]

“there was nothing in their RC”

Why are people talking so much about RC? Is it the player or what it means?

[Creature]

Also, where the hell is Creature? I just realized that he's in the game trying to see who we haven't heard from.
If Creature keeps up this activity, I think its very safe to assume that he is scum.

-Kor

does creature lurk as scum? is it like a general rule or just a shitter read

Nowadays the latter

[Creature]

oh yay this game started!

hopefully we get another Light Ethos

[Creature]

pedit: yeah L-2 is fine in a micro, though, imo. L-1 is more dangerous, agree

Not_Mafia isn't here I guess.

[Creature]

What if the team is {Lab, Creature, TW}?

-Kor (to both)

You're probably only right on TW.

[Creature]

(I have good feels so far: not in terms of current tangible reads, but I think nearly everyone who’s been posting will be easier to sort down the line.

Well except for Carmen’s single post

).

Which I read town for some reason

[Creature]

That's weird, I've just been handed a note:

"I WILL BE LURKING FOR THE REST OF DAY 1. F**K META!"

- C R E A T U R E

is it a joke, or what? I don't get it

Sorry my bad joke - I was amused by the

'if Creature lurks he's scum'

post

Town!me could easily say that.

[Creature]

Sometimes I have a good reason to lurk

[Creature]

oh fun, I didn't know I was interacting with an alt
I probably will never guess who you are because I always guess alts wrong, so enjoy knowing me while I don't know you!

It wasn't obvious it was an alt?

[Creature]

like no one starts playing mafia and starts with a fairly complex game 2-3 days after.

[Creature]

so many animal avatars in the game...

yup

[Creature]

I'm gonna aim for the long game.

Find one scum per hell phase
One town per heaven phase

[Creature]

RC stood for rolecard, which mod has asked we not talk about

Oh, I call that role PM, because RC sounds quite weird.

[Creature]

oh fun, I didn't know I was interacting with an alt
I probably will never guess who you are because I always guess alts wrong, so enjoy knowing me while I don't know you!

It wasn't obvious it was an alt?

Lots of people come here from other sites?

So did I but I still started with a newbie

[Creature]

I don't think there's another mafia site with long deadlines anyway

[Creature]

Code: Select all

[countdown]x days[/countdown]

You're welcome

[Creature]

Thursday, November 15th, 5:00 PM EST

Code: Select all

[countdown]2018-11-15 17:00:00 -6.00[/countdown]

(expired on 2018-11-15 17:00:00)

I guess

[Creature]

maybe I used the wrong timezone though

[Creature]

Man, I don't want phases to take too long.

[Creature]

ffs why games tend to cease being interesting?

[Creature]

Me same level as creature?

Yeah, you're probably below

[Creature]

Also I'd probably rave a lot during RVS like I did when I entered this thread.

[Creature]

Goons aligned with the town seems funny. I wouldn't notice it myself though.

[Creature]

he appeared itt when called out

I'm always called out when I don't post in the first two pages. Just because someone posted "oh where is creature?", doesn't mean I entered the thread just because of that.

[Creature]

Also if I was scum I'd be more willing to give townreads. I'm rn struggling to get decent reads.

[Creature]

Felt like you were chainlinking mine and Labrat’s lynches.

I’ve seen scum do that recently (Eragon).

I was experiencing those same unsettling feelings.

Who are you talking about?

[Creature]

actually
VOTE: Creature

lynch this today for 11/10 guaranteed scumflip

Oh cool, you've become sheepsaysmeep 2.0

[Creature]

if Lab/Keyser are town they can prove it

So can I

[Creature]

My first thought is I caught scum!tw from Presidents but my second thought is that I could maybe come around
Oh and creature, talk to me more on that slot @tw

He did enough for me to hesitate on

[Creature]

tbh I'm more ready to send players to heaven than scum to hell.

[Creature]

we actually just hydra'd in a game, maybe i've learned more from him than i realised?

Learned to misread me like three games a row from him?

[Creature]

do it I dare you!

Are they doing it now?

[Creature]

tbh if I did it rn it simply wouldn't be natural

[Creature]

Uh? Lefty, any game you didn't replace out?

You weren’t in any games lefty played so why did you decide to check them now?

I wanted to be sure he wasn't also an alt.

[Creature]

He is in no way near my ‘destined for heaven’ pile though right now.

I don't plan to be sent to heaven early anyway. I'm more of an endgame guy.

[Creature]

Town has better winrates when I endgame.

[Creature]

What? I heard about some cobra that consists of up to more than 100 males.

[Creature]

Accurate description of this forums.

[Creature]

I’m not feeling well, 24 hour VLA please

Cool I haven't been feeling well for days.

[Creature]

TMW mod longquotes.

[Creature]

In short:

most likely: SvS
second most likely: town!labby / scum!Keyser
then: scum!labby / town!keyser
probably never: TvT

You'll be a great scientist.

[Creature]

For the posts about the role pm

???

[Creature]

Why would he say that, given he is in fact "zeroposting"?

Zeroposting before my late entrance.

[Creature]

His saying that he doesn't do this or that as scum when its stuff he's doing it looks extremely scummy.

Never heard of this scumtell.

[Creature]

Like, do you expect scum to go "hey i don't post as scum" "i am posting, thus is am town"?

[Creature]

well, just look at this:
viewtopic.php?p=10545905&user_select%5B%5D=27374#p10545905

stungun used the "???" tell to mislynch me on some weird and stupid micro team mafia game. Congrats to him

[Creature]

Ohkay

[Creature]

Give me one flipped scum then

[Creature]

This game seems filled with players that are a pain to read.

[Creature]

Join us on Keyser?

What? Why?

[Creature]

because he rolled scum but not with you?

[Creature]

idk

[Creature]

I think you indicated having a scumread on him too earlier

Him saying he didn't roll scum with you.

Yeah.

[Creature]

Creature man why can't you just bus like a normal cheeky scumfuck? You're making this too obvious

idk though, I have about 37,5% to be right and I'm not sure this is worth the risk.

[Creature]

It's easy for scum to invent their own meta.

Yet you think I'm on my old scum meta.

[Creature]

Also I don't think you'll bother to find actually good meta tells for me, so I have to do it for you.

[Creature]

Like, do you expect scum to go "hey i don't post as scum" "i am posting, thus is am town"?

Exactly.

Oh, so you used to play mafia where scum automatically make themselves the most distinct possible from textbook (meh I forgot what was the term) townplay?

[Creature]

You are completely evading this

The post you linked seemed to be "???"

[Creature]

Oh yeah, that game where I was afraid to post anything, had to come up with something to satisfy town (including returning to page 1 and pretending to be "catching up") and faking complete ignorance about the setup (hence why I didn't talk about it even when the Math thing was obviously scum).

[Creature]

You are completely evading this

The post you linked seemed to be "???"

I thought I linked your entire ISO?

Oh, it seemed to redirect to the ??? post.

[Creature]

It's like normal for me to have a low content:spam ratio.

[Creature]

Specially in a game with a low number of players and even lower number of readable players and even lower number of interesting posts to comment on.

[Creature]

I feel like I need to act edgy to get something out of this.

[Creature]

yeah but normally your ISO feels like you give a fuck about solving the game

I usually value realtime interactions first.

[Creature]

I don't feel like calling someone town or scum when it's basically gun-to-my-head.

[Creature]

yeah but normally your ISO feels like you give a fuck about solving the game

I usually value realtime interactions first.

Why are these real time interactions so wolfy then?

because you're too impatient and want my reads immediatelly.

[Creature]

I don't feel like calling someone town or scum when it's basically gun-to-my-head.

If you feel like you're too heavily under pressure here step back. Neither me nor DrJ are getting anything from talking in circles with you. Go back and solve this sucker and give us something wild.

Nah, I want to see who will hop into this thread.

[Creature]

I'm actually enjoying the spam.

[Creature]

It will flip scum, I'm 99% sure

Oh sucks

[Creature]

It still cringes me the time some MU user said she's still surprised I flipped town some game where I got into an argument with her and she didn't want to hop off.

[Creature]

ok so you want real time interactions but won't use the real-time interactions to solve rather than spamming incorrect self-defence meta which has been countered ane you've ignored but also won't eject yourself from the conversation to take a back seat and some independent solving because you want real time interactions with.... someone else? who's on your mind?

Man, I realtime interact the way I want.

[Creature]

Surreptitious II was irritate other players about some unrevealed guilty all the time.

[Creature]

We'll, I'm off to bed
Hoping town does the right thing and votes creature

It will flip scum, I'm 99% sure

Lcp


Also @tw what 521 page monstrosity is that?!

Yes, that's why I asked TW about it as well. I don't intend to read all 521 pages of Heroes Wanted, but I feel like reading a portion of it could hopefully help me to understand TW's meta read of Creature. That's why I would like TW to narrow down what portion of that game would be most beneficial to read.

lol this post

[Creature]

Oh, I'll miss my hyperposting times.

[Creature]

Can you See the difference between that game and this game?

It's an old game, but whatever.

[Creature]

Okay

As long you don't immediatelly lynch me

[Creature]

We're fighting meanwhile scum are hiding in the shadows

[Creature]

Like volxen who just came here to fart and left

[Creature]

I think I've made it pretty clear I can't do much if only a few players are posting so lurking here while the worst goes bananas is a good scum strategy

[Creature]

I'm on mobile

Check the post where I quote volxen with lol this post.

[Creature]

It's that farting I was referring to.

[Creature]

also there's 3 scum creature
one third of the entire list is scum
!!!!

work with me we gotta find em all

Check the farters

[Creature]

It's not Labrat nor Keyser obviously

[Creature]

I'm on some boring class rn

[Creature]

Also asking me why a post is scummy is quite funny

[Creature]

If you like applying my scum meta so much:

I say "yeh I also agree that [copypaste]" as scum a lot like volxen os doing that post

[Creature]

Can't compete your PC with mobile

[Creature]

Lefty is also a farter

[Creature]

just go and write something up for me

Already did

[Creature]

Wow

And you were complaining I wasn't contributing

[Creature]

"creature is not posting reads"

"creature is now posting reads to get townread"

[Creature]

Micro games are usually low WIM anyway

[Creature]

wish I was as good as RC at this kinda stuff.

If you mean tunneling you're already doing good

[Creature]

me, LabRat and Creature

Time to turn this a townblock?

[Creature]

If we had scum chat I’d tell us to STFU as we make up 54% of the total post count.

Wow I'm now wishing I could be scum with you and labrat.

[Creature]

Let's dominate this fucking thread.

[Creature]

I haven’t read the next pages yet, but unless sth has really changed, this has to get lynched before judgment day

That’s like freaking gamethrowing

What?

[Creature]

Are you also gonna argue the worst is gamethrowing? He like did the same thing I did, but kept adding I'm scum in every post of his.

[Creature]

Can you give an example of town!you struggling to get decent reads?

schadd's micro friends mafia. Too lazy to get the link.

[Creature]

labrat is probably town, too
way too many words to be scum for like 80% of players
I'll double-check this before sending them to heaven but not interested in a labrat lynch atm

I would probably send labrat to heaven first.

[Creature]

Like my biggest problem with him was the possibility of him being an alt to an user like House.

[Creature]

Hi creature, if you had to LAMIST/serious post for the rest of D1, would that take the fun out of the game for you?

Not if I could still do the stuff I like to do.

[Creature]

how do you feel about
Hell: Creature
Heaven: DrJ
Hell: Keyser
Heaven: Volxen

Sure, the game will end as soon Volxen is sent to heaven.

[Creature]

{me}
{tw, volxen, DrJ}
{labrat}
{Carmen, lefty} - null
{keyser}
{creature}

didn't expect your reads to be pure sheep.

[Creature]

like anyone could easily copypaste the worst's reads, replace his name with theirs and say this is their readslist.

[Creature]

Creature if you're town I need a bit of WIM

You or I?

[Creature]

As in, you think DrJ and Volxen are both scum?

I expressed multiple times I scumread volxen.

Also DrJ didn't seem to do anything other than bugging me for inactivity when like the entire playerlist was inactive.

[Creature]

As are me and tw?

No, I think the third would be Lefty, but you'd be the first replacement seeing your reads.

[Creature]

Like the generic scumreads are "scum are creature and keyser, never rescinding blah blah blah"

even though it should be pretty obvious keyser and I aren't scum together.

[Creature]

I'm probably getting to the point where I feel like I should scumread anyone who scumreads me.

[Creature]

I'm probably getting to the point where I feel like I should scumread anyone who scumreads me.

That's a scumtell for you.

Not really, specially considering MU.

[Creature]

We'll, I'm off to bed
Hoping town does the right thing and votes creature

It will flip scum, I'm 99% sure

Lcp


Also @tw what 521 page monstrosity is that?!

Yes, that's why I asked TW about it as well. I don't intend to read all 521 pages of Heroes Wanted, but I feel like reading a portion of it could hopefully help me to understand TW's meta read of Creature. That's why I would like TW to narrow down what portion of that game would be most beneficial to read.

lol this post

Is this the entirety of your read on volxen or

While the worst, Keyser and I were arguing, volxen just came, deposited "yes, i agree yada yada" and left.

[Creature]

Wow the shitness

[Creature]

I remember when town had bigger winrates when they tolerated lowposters less.

[Creature]

We now wait Carmen and Lefty get replaced (while making sure their replacement doesn't decide to hammer).

[Creature]

Creature (4) - Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde, the worst, Keyser Söze, volxen

First, this is never all town, specially if I'm town.

All of them reaching to the same wrong conclusion simply never happens in mafia history.

[Creature]

Keyser feels like the most genuine atleast. The rest all have some scum equity.

[Creature]

Eh, well Labrat can still be town

[Creature]

Hmm, how likely it is for two scum to be on Keyser?

Otherwise I'd say Lefty is scum and Irre is town

[Creature]

Carmen idk, gotta see replacement

[Creature]

Now I think there's very likely scum among {DrJ, the worst, volxen}

I could see any of them deciding to push me as scum.

[Creature]

Also I'm pretty sure scum are aware of the "oh scum will always townread town!creature", so likely they'd try to break it like this game.

[Creature]

DrJekill is the most likely scum imo.

Though, I don't feel like telling why.

[Creature]

Also I'm pretty sure scum are aware of the "oh scum will always townread town!creature", so likely they'd try to break it like this game.

waht.

like, it's pretty usual for scum to townread me because I will obvtown and they will look bad if I don't.

So they could push me as scum and when they turn to be wrong they can use the argument above.

[Creature]

I'm still pretty skeptical about scumreads on me and sometimes I consider scumreads on me pretty unrealistic (see BuJaber in Open 739).

[Creature]

Keyser is the only one on your wagon I don't townread

You're townreading scum then

[Creature]

Who's scum on your wagon?

DrJekill followed by volxen

[Creature]

also I suspect the only reason you townread them depends on me being scum.

[Creature]

Throw me some reasoning

You've played that open where I was IC.

[Creature]

lol even this game I'm putting more effort than that other game.

[Creature]

You don't seem to have a genuine interest in solving this game.

And you consider yourself to be solving the game just because you found the perfect person to focus on while doing nothing else?

[Creature]

You don't seem to have a genuine interest in solving this game.

[Creature]

Just finished a scumgame

[Creature]

I'll probably just let you find the tells there.

[Creature]

I'm starting to wonder if I'm being wrong and Creature is actually willing to be bad town to fix his lopsided meta

Huh? I'm not being bad town.

[Creature]

If the consensus scumreads are Keyser and I, then obviously I'm gonna have different opinions.

[Creature]

If the consensus scumreads are Keyser and I, then obviously I'm gonna have different opinions.

Just because I don't agree with you there, doesn't mean I'm bad town.

[Creature]

Like, if I townread both Jekill and volxen, who would be left to scumread? Carmen, Lefty and LabRat?

[Creature]

stop whinging and play the game more then :p

Sure

(even though I'm the top poster)

[Creature]

(or atleast used to be)

[Creature]

stop whinging and play the game more then :p

Sure

(even though I'm the top poster)

You are shitting on the thread
Congrats

What about you?

[Creature]

I'm trying not to be shit

[Creature]

Like when I actually contributed you just threw it on the trash.

[Creature]

I can try again if needed but can't guarantee it will be your definition of natural

[Creature]

Why is DrJekill town again?

[Creature]

I'm sorry for my negativity

[Creature]

My problem with Korina is that her playstyle here feels different than what I remember.

[Creature]

Only the game where I was IC.

[Creature]

Korina has like made it pretty clear she was town that game

while I can't tell it here

[Creature]

I think he lacks energy

[Creature]

Well I hate sorting V/LAs

[Creature]

creature do you have any solid reads yet

the worst town

that's about it

[Creature]

I've been reconsidering my other reads lately

[Creature]

Damn I feel like I'm in a prison

[Creature]

I'm without PC and away from home the entire day

[Creature]

I'll see what I can do

[Creature]

You said your reads had changed?

Actually I aborted most of my reads

[Creature]

I'm back to thinking Korina is town

[Creature]

Cool Ausuka replaced in

[Creature]

Sadly Ausuka is still scum

[Creature]

The place I aam is complete crap

Not even WiFi is working correctly

[Creature]

Next event I need to make sure to run away from home one day earlier

[Creature]

You said your reads had changed?

Actually I aborted most of my reads

what does aborted mean in this context???

btw 1000th post boom bish

Somewhat like knocking all back to null

[Creature]

Cool Ausuka replaced in

Derp not SvS
probably

knowing creature it could by anything

I could be T for example

[Creature]

I want to try not be completely useless this game

[Creature]

Always assume the worst when preparing for the next phase. Like do you have plans if I flip town. My wagon will be pretty sketchy when I do.

[Creature]

Second sentence was supposed to be a question

[Creature]

I don't feel that good about Eragon tbh

[Creature]

I feel like players don't actually think I'm scum anymore but just wants my flip because I am the more informative

[Creature]

Eragon could've been trying to pocket me without actually sticking his neck to me

[Creature]

Ausuka should be sent to hell on second hell phase

[Creature]

Talking about 24/7 mafia chat

It's expected for scum to be controlling gamestate

[Creature]

Gamestate like spews me town but apparently my flip gives the most info

[Creature]

Wait me reach home atleast k?

[Creature]

Damn I hate typing on mobile

[Creature]

Okay this is too scummy from Keyser

VOTE: Keyser Soze