The Fifth Fortnight (Game Over!)

[SirCakez]

hmm with the descriptions of those two games I'm less certain both scum are lurking
But almost definitely one is

[Shoshin]

Cogito, do you townread DGB? And if so, can you help me understand why?

[Errantparabola]

?? who isnt playing to their wincon?

Ramcius's gambit.

oh, i understand, but if you came to this game with intention to win, you doing it wrong

The fact that it was proposed makes me think Ramcius is town though

[Gorkington]

i think he was under the impression that the threat of it would make it easier to find scum during the day via pressure/seeing reactions to it, thus making it not anti wincon.

[Katsuki]

OK GUYS

IF UT AND I AGREE ON SOMETHING
IT MEANS THE GAME IS OVER

POWERLYNCH CAKEZ HE IS SCUM TY

THESE COGGY VOTES ARE LAUGHABLE ITS AS IF PEOPLE DONT KNOW HOW TO PLAY MAFIA ANYMORE

[kuribo]

im telling kuribo that if he manages to derail cakez's wagon onto town he should bribe me so we can share the win

Nah you don't have to worry about me derailing anything


I'm working way too many more hours than I anticipated this week and we have an an immediate termination policy for cellphone use, so I can't play at work like I did back in the day

so I'm just gonna let someone from the replacement list play while the game is still early

[Katsuki]

Orrrrrrrrrrr you can just stay in and push this murderwagon with us since we'd all miss your presence greatly if you were to depart early.

[zoraster]

Day 1

Cogito Ergo Sum ( 3 )

Mewtaph

SirCakez

BrightEyedFish

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(E - 6 )

DrippingGoofball ( 1 )

Shoshin

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(E - 8 )

kuribo ( 1 )

Errantparabola

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(E - 8 )

SirCakez ( 6 )

xyzzy

Gorkington

DrippingGoofball

Untrod Tripod

BBmolla

Katsuki

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(E - 3 )

Spiffeh ( 2 )

Cogito Ergo Sum

Firebringer

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(E - 7 )

Not Voting ( 4 )

kuribo Spiffeh Ramcius Marquis

Total Votes ( 17 )

Needed to Eliminate [ 9 ]

Deadline: November 28 at 18:00 EST

kuribo is replaced by xRECKONERx

DrippingGoofball has been prodded

[BrightEyedFish]

Ok. Getting some fresh legs in here. Hopefully this will push things along.

[BrightEyedFish]

OK GUYS

IF UT AND I AGREE ON SOMETHING
IT MEANS THE GAME IS OVER

POWERLYNCH CAKEZ HE IS SCUM TY

THESE COGGY VOTES ARE LAUGHABLE ITS AS IF PEOPLE DONT KNOW HOW TO PLAY MAFIA ANYMORE

Let's say you are right about Cakez for the moment. You would you say he is partnered with?

[BrightEyedFish]

EBWOP:

Who would you say he is partnered with?

[xyzzy]

I almost asked the question of who folks think SirCakez is partnered with earlier today but I realized it's kind of a moot point if he ends up being the one lynched -- it's a good idea to have a strong sense of who is most likely partnered with any given player, but by definition it doesn't matter at all who might be partnered with whoever gets lynched, unless somehow figuring that out makes it more likely to actually hit scum (which I don't think is the case in SirCakez's case). it's a good idea to go in with a plan of "if this person flees, this person is their partner", but if we're wrong about SirCakez being scum and we lynch him, any analysis of who his partner might be is 100% irrelevant.

[BrightEyedFish]

That question was directed at Katsuki. I doubt I will get any substance in his response because he seems to be incapable of that but I thought I would give it a whirl.

[xyzzy]

btw, one small addendum to my last post: "who is X's scum partner if they're scum?" is not the same question as "if X flees, who is their scum partner?"

we can probably make guesses at the former based on associative behavior, but for any given pair of players who are scum, they have a choice between two options when it comes to fleeing, there's one that's probably better for them, and they'll almost certainly pick that one. therefore, if we mislynch and someone flees, if there are, say, 2 people who you think are decently likely to be their partner, one question that's worth asking is "why would this person flee instead of their partner?" -- if you think one possible partner would've been a better option for who to flee, it's probably the other one. (and it's not really a good idea for scum to try to WIFOM this and intentionally have the one who they consider to be the worse option flee, because that only works if they believe literally everyone will be analyzing the situation completely identically, which obviously isn't the case.)

[xyzzy]

me: says I'm gonna write a "small addendum"
me: addendum is longer than the post to which it is an addendum
y'all, I assume:

[Ramcius]

?? who isnt playing to their wincon?

Ramcius's gambit.

oh, i understand, but if you came to this game with intention to win, you doing it wrong

The fact that it was proposed makes me think Ramcius is town though

It's not playing against your wincon, if you not intend to do it yourself

[DrippingGoofball]

[quote="In post 184, Shoshin"]I'd like to see more votes on Dripping. I don't see her read on Spiffeh coming from town (while SirCakez has a good reason to townread Spiff, I don't see why anyone else would be townreading Spiffeh yet). I also think scum are more likely to be among the less active players in a game like this, since they'd be trying to avoid attracting the suspicion of even a single townie.[/quote

This is scum. There is no universe where one can claim my town read on Spiffeh comes from any specific alignment whatsoever.

[BrightEyedFish]

This is scum. There is no universe where one can claim my town read on Spiffeh comes from any specific alignment whatsoever.

I don't know. Sho could be on to something here. Explain more why you think Sho's response is Scum indicative here, I'm not seeing it.

[DrippingGoofball]

Gorkington's case is outstanding bus'ing. Both are scum.

Gork is towniest player in the game so far...

Idk I feel very townie even with this red role pm

I don;t know what half of the posts in this game mean right now.

Since no one wants to push on Goofball with me, I'll change things up.

On to my 2nd scum read.

VOTE: Cogito Ergo Sum

Why?

Vote: SirCakez

This is an opportune time for scum to jump on a wagon.

Unvote, vote: Spiff[/n]

No idea what this means, doesn't make sense.

What scum solicits attention to their posting?

Awkward scum feeling self-conscious.

Awkward you trying your very least, I'd say

And that all adds up to my top scum read of Mr. Ball of Goof that is dripping.

Why are you saying "adds up to" when you only pointed out one thing about our glorious lady of Goof?

Her posts add up to the same value as yours... nothing.

Anyone have anything against this vote?

Thank you for describing CES' play style.

[DrippingGoofball]

Firebringer's "joke" about having a red role PM is probably not a joke.
VOTE: Firebringer

[Mewtaph]

Why not?

[BrightEyedFish]

Firebringer's "joke" about having a red role PM is probably not a joke.
VOTE: Firebringer

So are you saying Firebringer & Sho are the scum team?

[DrippingGoofball]

So are you saying Firebringer & Sho are the scum team?

Maybe you, too.

[Gorkington]

dgb youre pretty familiar with kuribo, right?
do you have a read on his play so far this game?

[Untrod Tripod]

OK GUYS

IF UT AND I AGREE ON SOMETHING