Newbie 1901 (Game Over!)

[Flavor Leaf]

Not sure why you said this. You basically just ruined any chance of seeing our actual reactions.

I’m doing little next leveling of my own with it.

[Bulbazoor]

Before I say anything else, I want guten and emperor to talk a bit more. I already gave a pool of people I have a null read on.

[2ndStoryWindow]

Also, you said I was the safer vote, while I disagree. Sure, a green flip does in fact help you a lot, and that’s what will happen, but I’d rather be alive right now. A red flip by me would give VERY little info. I’m a master of confusion as scum when I’m going down.

I don’t see how this makes a case for me not wanting to lynch you. As town myself, this is literally an ideal scenario. If I’m wrong and you are town, we’ll get a lot of info. That’s fine, can’t always lynch scum on Day 1. If you are scum, I don’t quite mind the lack of info. We’d be one step closer to winning, and we’d have a few more days, as well as info from nightkills, to rely off of to catch your partner. Also, claiming you want to be alive is redundant; everyone wants to stay alive.

[Flavor Leaf]

Solid. Good to know you’re just pushing the idea and potential threat of me being scum more than anything else.

[2ndStoryWindow]

Is everyone else asleep? Been a while since I did one of these readlists.

Emperor flippyNips
Vorkuta
2ndStoryWindow
muh316
Guten tag

I am here so far in terms of people I'd be happy with lynching. Guten needs to speak up. 2ndstory, so do you. I want to hear all of what you guys have to say.

Is this list in any particular order?

Similarly (but also not similar), I do not have a read on Flicker. Most of his posts have been questions, and I acknowledge the fact that he was trying to get conversation started, but still. They just don't seem town or scummy at the moment.

*She/her, thanks.

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In terms of a reads list, this is where I am:

Emperor flippyNips - Jury's out for now.
Vorkuta - Scummiest so far. Not a strong scum vibe, but still.
2ndStoryWindow - Town lean for post 105. I also feel like his vote on Flavour Leaf might be a little IC-related paranioa, which is extremely relatable and more likely to be town IMO.
muh316 - Tentative, somewhat conflicted town lean. Kind of feels like his stances are too safe, like he's trying not to rock the boat or stand out, which feels vaguely scummy. But, I don't know if that's just paranoia because we agree on a lot.
Guten tag - Jury's out for now.
Alonzo - Don't like how he called out/shaded Vorkuta without voting there, but it's one little thing, and from following along with other games Alonzo's been in, he has a style I find hard to read. Null.
Bulbazoor - Towniest so far, for reasons I've already talked about.
Flavor Leaf - The last time I was worried someone was buddying/pocketing me, they turned out to be town. On the other hand, I think a little IC paranoia can be healthy. So, null?

Pedit: Okay, Flavor Leaf can be a scum lean for now. Something about his responses to 2ndStoryWindow feel off.

Pedit2:

Potential ScumFlicker or ScumMuh would benefit greatly from moving to my wagon. Let’s see what happens with them.

Not sure why you said this. You basically just ruined any chance of seeing our actual reactions.

Also, sorry about that. I have a habit of defaulting to he/his since I’m a guy.

[2ndStoryWindow]

Solid. Good to know you’re just pushing the idea and potential threat of me being scum more than anything else.

Why is me pushing bad? You’ve come across as one of the scummiest players so far.

[Alonzo]

2sw hard pockets Alonzo...

[2ndStoryWindow]

Also,

Why isn’t that townie? I’m trying to get town to accept me and let me lead. I’m town trying to win this game.

And I’ve stood out to you, Bulbazor, Alonzo, and Vorkuta in some fashion, so your point on me blending in because of that is flawed.

As town, I wanna lead. You’re pushing a reason, calling it scum, even when it’s NAI, or even more likely to make sense coming from a town side.

Why do you wanna lead as town? What purpose does that serve? I’ve played that way before and it ends in me being wrong 9 times out of 10. Maybe you’re a better player, but I still don’t see why you need to play that way as town. Sure it’s fun to be in charge, but as town we have to work together with as much information as possible.

And before you say I’m trying to lead by pushing you, well I’ve got a scummy read and I’m sticking to it. Your entire basis is to try to lead because you want to lead. That seems scummy.

[2ndStoryWindow]

2sw hard pockets Alonzo...

How have I pocketed you?

[Flavor Leaf]

Solid. Good to know you’re just pushing the idea and potential threat of me being scum more than anything else.

Why is me pushing bad? You’ve come across as one of the scummiest players so far.

Why do you assume that as scum I would come across as scummy?

Why isn’t it just my personality for you?

Because you’re wrong. I understand your case and logic. I’m just trying to see if I think you’re coming from a town or a scum mindset putting together a logical case on someone he thinks can be mislynchable.

[Alonzo]

With your obv town approach so far

[Flavor Leaf]

2sw hard pockets Alonzo...

How have I pocketed you?

I assume because you’re going after me, which is a pretty bold move as scum.

If you’re scum, hats off to ya.

[2ndStoryWindow]

Solid. Good to know you’re just pushing the idea and potential threat of me being scum more than anything else.

Why is me pushing bad? You’ve come across as one of the scummiest players so far.

Why do you assume that as scum I would come across as scummy?

Why isn’t it just my personality for you?

Because you’re wrong. I understand your case and logic. I’m just trying to see if I think you’re coming from a town or a scum mindset putting together a logical case on someone he thinks can be mislynchable.

I never said I’d think you’d come across as scummy if you’re scum. I said I think you’re trying too hard to come across as town, which is scummy.

[2ndStoryWindow]

With your obv town approach so far

Again, how is a gut read a pocket?

[Flavor Leaf]

Solid. Good to know you’re just pushing the idea and potential threat of me being scum more than anything else.

Why is me pushing bad? You’ve come across as one of the scummiest players so far.

Why do you assume that as scum I would come across as scummy?

Why isn’t it just my personality for you?

Because you’re wrong. I understand your case and logic. I’m just trying to see if I think you’re coming from a town or a scum mindset putting together a logical case on someone he thinks can be mislynchable.

I never said I’d think you’d come across as scummy if you’re scum. I said I think you’re trying too hard to come across as town, which is scummy.

I don't like coming across as town when I'm scum. It gets me into trouble late game.

[Alonzo]

FMPOV its would be very hard to post as you are with insincere intentions. I have seen it, but never in the newbie queue.

Im saying your my first good townread

[2ndStoryWindow]

Solid. Good to know you’re just pushing the idea and potential threat of me being scum more than anything else.

Why is me pushing bad? You’ve come across as one of the scummiest players so far.

Why do you assume that as scum I would come across as scummy?

Why isn’t it just my personality for you?

Because you’re wrong. I understand your case and logic. I’m just trying to see if I think you’re coming from a town or a scum mindset putting together a logical case on someone he thinks can be mislynchable.

I never said I’d think you’d come across as scummy if you’re scum. I said I think you’re trying too hard to come across as town, which is scummy.

I don't like coming across as town when I'm scum. It gets me into trouble late game.

How does it get you into trouble late game? It seems the opposite would be true

[Emperor flippyNips]

@2ndStoryWindow
@Emperor flippyNips
@Guten tag

How much experience do you have playing mafia?

First time

What are your thoughts on Alonzo's excitement over you? If he's scum, would you let him get away with it...because I would. Flattery'll get you everywhere.

FlippyNips

say it..

FLIIPEENIIPSSS...

fantastic handle.

Why thanks I skipped over this somehow

[Bulbazoor]

I don’t see how this makes a case for me not wanting to lynch you. As town myself, this is literally an ideal scenario. If I’m wrong and you are town, we’ll get a lot of info. That’s fine, can’t always lynch scum on Day 1. If you are scum, I don’t quite mind the lack of info. We’d be one step closer to winning, and we’d have a few more days, as well as info from nightkills, to rely off of to catch your partner.

Also, claiming you want to be alive is redundant; everyone wants to stay alive.

How would we be lacking info from a scum flip? Why is lynching town a good idea to you?

For the bolded part, my first thought was "wasn't this the guy that was trying to be town hero by saying he'd let himself die?" That post did not sound like you wanting to be alive.

Ok, moving on to the next few new posts. Sorry, just felt the need to point out the bad logic behind this post right here.

[Alonzo]

@2ndStoryWindow
@Emperor flippyNips
@Guten tag

How much experience do you have playing mafia?

First time

What are your thoughts on Alonzo's excitement over you? If he's scum, would you let him get away with it...because I would. Flattery'll get you everywhere.

FlippyNips

say it..

FLIIPEENIIPSSS...

fantastic handle.

Why thanks I skipped over this somehow

What else did you find on your catch up?

[Bulbazoor]

Is everyone else asleep? Been a while since I did one of these readlists.

Emperor flippyNips
Vorkuta

2ndStoryWindow

muh316
Guten tag

I am here so far in terms of people I'd be happy with lynching. Guten needs to speak up. 2ndstory, so do you. I want to hear all of what you guys have to say.

I'll put 2ndstory as a tr for now.

[Emperor flippyNips]

@2ndStoryWindow
@Emperor flippyNips
@Guten tag

How much experience do you have playing mafia?

First time

What are your thoughts on Alonzo's excitement over you? If he's scum, would you let him get away with it...because I would. Flattery'll get you everywhere.

FlippyNips

say it..

FLIIPEENIIPSSS...

fantastic handle.

Why thanks I skipped over this somehow

What else did you find on your catch up?

So far
bulba: is a little suspect to me
vorkuta: is also slightly suspect but I feel like that could be a miss read
Tag: hasn’t said enough for me to really gain an opinion on them so by them just sitting idle could be scum could be busy
Flicker: I’m getting townie vibes from
same for: muh, Alanzo
And as for flavor he has scum written all over him

[Emperor flippyNips]

Is everyone else asleep? Been a while since I did one of these readlists.

Emperor flippyNips
Vorkuta

2ndStoryWindow

muh316
Guten tag

I am here so far in terms of people I'd be happy with lynching. Guten needs to speak up. 2ndstory, so do you. I want to hear all of what you guys have to say.

I'll put 2ndstory as a tr for now.

What does “tr” stand for?

[Emperor flippyNips]

Oh is it “town read”?

[Alonzo]

yep townread.