The Fifth Fortnight (Game Over!)

[Spiffeh]

Cakez is there a reason you never really addressed this? Or point me to where you did please?

first off I'm voting Cogito b/c I'm pretty sure scum are hiding in the margins this game and Cogito is pretty much the most in the margins you can get. Just four posts and they're basically getting no attention from anyone except Fish and I. Don't think I explained that before.

@Cake I guess your characterization of Cogito’s play can apply now but at the time you voted him it was like 9ish hours into the game and I don’t think lack of content at that point is all that egregious.

What was your initial reason for voting Cogito?

[Mewtaph]

{DrippingGoofball, SirCakez, Spiffeh, Cogito Ergo Sum}

can i get some words on why for these ones?

DrippingGoofball -- Need more from them after doing the "ehh need to read the op brb, idk what setup is" and their play not seeing a significant change after rethinking how they're going to play or whatever, kind of fading into the background. More on their townreads would be nice.
SirCakez -- He's like trying to sell others to push a group of people instead of just pushing specific things, feels more like "shiny! someone help me push this" instead of "oh that's actually scummy, let me help myself instead of waiting for others to do it for me".
Spiffeh -- A bit too conscious of self in ISO for my liking, so a slot I would look at if Cakez ends up being town.
Cogito Ergo Sum -- Meh ISO, SR on me is fine but need thoughts on other slots. Don't like it if it ends up being fleeing scum.

[BrightEyedFish]

Too many lurkers and there's not enough else out there for me to put my vote on any other wagon right now. I don't know if we get anything before the lock tonight, hopefully after the break everyone is more engaged and we can finally lynch someone. We still have several days but the deadline is approaching.

I thought about maybe proposing a no lynch because it might be easier then getting people to agree on a lurker to lynch but I think we need all the information we can get from any flip before Phase 2 so screw that.

[Gorkington]

I thought about maybe proposing a no lynch

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no?????????????????????????????????

[BrightEyedFish]

I thought about maybe proposing a no lynch

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no?????????????????????????????????

Did you read the rest of the post?

[BrightEyedFish]

That you just quoted the "no lynch" part without the rest of the context is kinda scummy.

One could think you are trying to hard for town cred.

[Shoshin]

Shoshin -- shoshin has really dropped in impact which might just be an ebb and flow but it's surprising to see

Why surprising? You saw it happen in Supp... activity ebbs and flows for me, plus I'm visiting with family atm...

[Shoshin]

I thought about maybe proposing a no lynch

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no?????????????????????????????????

Did you read the rest of the post?

The rest of the post is just as bad.

[Gorkington]

i feel like youre misunderstanding that the lynch is basically our best shot to collectively win the game.
a no lynch or mislynch drastically reduces each individual town's odds of winning dramatically.
throwing away that opportunity would be highly negative utility.

p-edit: yeah man adding in the context definitely makes it less of a bad idea. Lol.

[Gorkington]

do you not understand that lynching scum on d1 ends the game in a town win? because thats what happens if we lynch scum.

[Shoshin]

That you just quoted the "no lynch" part without the rest of the context is kinda scummy.

One could think you are trying to hard for town cred.

Who cares what "one could think," that's not what townies care about? I don't understand how you ever propose no lynching as town. What's the benefit?

[BrightEyedFish]

do you not understand that lynching scum on d1 ends the game in a town win? because thats what happens if we lynch scum.

Yes, I understand that.

Maybe we will get lucky and lynch scum but my feeling is that the leading buses right now mostly are based on lurkers with no solid evidence behind it.
I know my vote is on a lurker right now but I'm not trying to be hypocritical.

[Shoshin]

VOTE: Bright

[BrightEyedFish]

That you just quoted the "no lynch" part without the rest of the context is kinda scummy.

One could think you are trying to hard for town cred.

Who cares what "one could think," that's not what townies care about? I don't understand how you ever propose no lynching as town. What's the benefit?

My reasoning behind thinking about a no lynch was that mislynching a lurker will give us about as much info as a no lynch for phase 2.

[SirCakez]

@Gork I really don't feel I am playing differently. Maybe it looks that way from outside perspective. This game is much slower then my usual games and a much different setup and a much different playerlist. I don't think there's any casing to be done when the ISOs of the four SRs I have speak for themselves. I just feel there's just less to engage with overall. It's the ship I'll go down on.
I am using AtE because I'm not sure what else to do in this situation. But I'm also just genuinely frustrated. Ram's constant superiority complex when talking to me is not helping.

Spiff will get back to you next

[BrightEyedFish]

I never proposed a no lynch...

[SirCakez]

I will probably throw together a readslist later today because I finally have a day off.

[Gorkington]

mislynching a lurker takes them out of the lynchpool and gives less space for scum to hide. theres no practical situation where mislynching is worse than no lynching.

it doesnt really matter because this is just theorytalk and i dont think youre scum pitching this.
shos should probably also understand that its more likely that town pitches something like that rather than scum given how immediately bad they should know it would make them look?

[BrightEyedFish]

I think Gork's and Sho's reaction to the words no lynch are very scum-opportunistic way to start a wagon. Let's see if Gork jumps on now...

[Gorkington]

I really don't feel I am playing differently

what towngame of yours looks like this

[Shoshin]

No, town never even considers no lynching in this setup. As a joke or reaction test, maybe. But never as a serious consideration with actual reasoning.

Bright's probably doing some reverse psychology thinking ("scum wouldn't be so blatantly scummy, so the townies will think it's a town-tell). The problem is that the thought just never occurs to town in the first place.

[Gorkington]

town does stupid stuff? all the time? its literally why people in the NRG have to balance in town's favour to account for how stupid town is?

bright also has no need to draw attention to himself here given that the most plausible reaction to him saying that is someone pushing him the exact way youre pushing him right now.

[Spiffeh]

Shoshin’s reaction and subsequent vote onto Bright are revolting

[SirCakez]

@Spiff had to double check to make sure but I did that because his naked vote on me w/no other content felt very opportunistic
@Gork I'm sure I could find one if I dug through my games but it feels extremely pointless to me. Where are the scumgames that I've played like this, if you want to do the meta dance?
And for that matter I'd be fascinated to hear where the "genuine scumhunting" is in these ISOs:

Spoiler:

VOTE: SirCakes

I didn’t bookmark this

Cake is scum tho rite

Yeah he is so I’m all good back to lurking

Actually I have a super secret scum read on someone but I don't think a Lynch on this person is realistic at this time (or maybe ever!) so that's fun I guess

Who

I didn’t bookmark this

Cake is scum tho rite

Also this is bad

detective me homie

hey reck vote cakez

hi i have daycop guilty on sircakez, votes to cakez please and thanks

Molla who's ur guess gonna be??

DGB

nice content cakez

okay I’ll laugh from the grave when cake flees ayy lmao

Spoiler:

vote xyzzy

vote sircake

And I was worried this game would be hard

Damn kids and their spam posting

Actually I have a super secret scum read on someone but I don't think a Lynch on this person is realistic at this time (or maybe ever!) so that's fun I guess

Hi

So why aren't we just lynching cake?

Actually I have a super secret scum read on someone but I don't think a Lynch on this person is realistic at this time (or maybe ever!) so that's fun I guess

Hi

So why aren't we just lynching cake?

well, we need plan for round 2 first, in case we wrong on Cakez

my plan would be accuse a scumread but winning isn't as much fun as quarterbacking I guess

OK GUYS

IF UT AND I AGREE ON SOMETHING

If Cakez is not scum at least one is on his wagon right now, otherwise they would have already L-1'd and hammered.

that doesn't make any sense, guy

oh yeah I wonder who the remaining scum is, probably not one of the two who voted at the same time and one fled

Feel like this game is barely going anywhere
Wouldn't mind a Mew pressure wagon

"I don't like that people are voting me. Look over here, it's a shiny object."

there's UT. yep. this will die before endgame probs cuz i cant handle getting bamboozled by him.

oh boy, this shit again

Spoiler:

vote xyzzy

vote sircake

And I was worried this game would be hard

Damn kids and their spam posting

Actually I have a super secret scum read on someone but I don't think a Lynch on this person is realistic at this time (or maybe ever!) so that's fun I guess

Hi

So why aren't we just lynching cake?

Actually I have a super secret scum read on someone but I don't think a Lynch on this person is realistic at this time (or maybe ever!) so that's fun I guess

Hi

So why aren't we just lynching cake?

well, we need plan for round 2 first, in case we wrong on Cakez

my plan would be accuse a scumread but winning isn't as much fun as quarterbacking I guess

OK GUYS

IF UT AND I AGREE ON SOMETHING

If Cakez is not scum at least one is on his wagon right now, otherwise they would have already L-1'd and hammered.

that doesn't make any sense, guy

oh yeah I wonder who the remaining scum is, probably not one of the two who voted at the same time and one fled

Feel like this game is barely going anywhere
Wouldn't mind a Mew pressure wagon

"I don't like that people are voting me. Look over here, it's a shiny object."

there's UT. yep. this will die before endgame probs cuz i cant handle getting bamboozled by him.

oh boy, this shit again

^ has gotten better lately

[SirCakez]

I wasn't paying attention to this "no-lynch" argument b/c I was addressing Gork but it's an incredibly stupid idea and also town AF from Bright to post that. Shoshin vote is bad but not scummy imo. Scum wouldn't be going there when that's just not gonna happen.