A Story Revisited (Anything uPick): Day 6

Shoshin · Post Post #6550 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:43 pm

Nero's reads suck throughout the game... he's constantly looking for townies to mislynch... and his reasoning doesn't make any sense from the perspective of a townie who actually wants to figure things out, he's just pointing out ways that townies could be scum in the hopes of getting those townies mislynched, he's done it thorughout the game (look at his read on Chick, for example), and he's doing it now on me and jjh.

Jingle · Post Post #6551 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:43 pm

In post 5044, Jingle wrote:Wait, are you saying that you intended to target jj and the previous conversation wasn't some kind of reaction test?

This is when the possibility of redirection was introduced, FWIW.

Shoshin · Post Post #6552 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:43 pm

It's long-term planning, Fire. He's been setting up mislynches since the start of this game.

Shoshin · Post Post #6553 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:44 pm

Nero's also scum via poe. So, like, it's both behavior and the simple fact that everyone else (except Nico & Invis) is townier.

Nero Cain · Post Post #6554 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:44 pm

In post 6542, Shoshin wrote:Nero's just probably scum, NSG. So don't worry too much about convincing him. The guy thinks I'm scum lol...

Well, we know you can't read very well. You aren't ery townie-get over yourself.

Shoshin · Post Post #6555 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:46 pm

I'm certainly not "scummy," Nero's choice of word to describe me.

Firebringer · Post Post #6556 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:46 pm

In post 6552, Shoshin wrote:It's long-term planning, Fire. He's been setting up mislynches since the start of this game.

the long term plan makes no sense if ur going to be dead by then.

do u think ur going to be alive in 3 days when nero cain would push for a lynch on u?

Nero Cain · Post Post #6557 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:47 pm

In post 6549, Firebringer wrote:would u agree u are likely to die within a few days anyways given ur role?

No scum would shoot a claimed BG and she's not using her role.

Firebringer · Post Post #6558 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:48 pm

wait wtf, why are u not using ur role?

Shoshin · Post Post #6559 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:48 pm

Meh, I'm going to try dying but who knows if that will happen? Last time I was a bodyguard (Labyrinth), scum left me alive all the way to LYLO. And I was able to bring a confirmed townie to LYLO as a result. So, like, who knows? Scum might think they can frame me (it's what they thought in Labyrinth) and ultimately I don't have much say in whether I'm alive.

Firebringer · Post Post #6560 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:49 pm

In post 6559, Shoshin wrote:Meh, I'm going to try dying but who knows if that will happen? Last time I was a bodyguard (Labyrinth), scum left me alive all the way to LYLO. And I was able to bring a confirmed townie to LYLO as a result. So, like, who knows? Scum might think they can frame me (it's what they thought in Labyrinth) and ultimately I don't have much say in whether I'm alive.

who knows if u will die?
u have 2 conf town to BG.

they have to kill the conf town. wtf are u talking about

Shoshin · Post Post #6561 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:50 pm

Also, Nero was calling me scummy before I claimed bodyguard... and once scum start pushing someone as scum, they sometimes struggle to change how they approach a player in a fluid and natural way.

Shoshin · Post Post #6562 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:51 pm

In post 6560, Firebringer wrote:
In post 6559, Shoshin wrote:Meh, I'm going to try dying but who knows if that will happen? Last time I was a bodyguard (Labyrinth), scum left me alive all the way to LYLO. And I was able to bring a confirmed townie to LYLO as a result. So, like, who knows? Scum might think they can frame me (it's what they thought in Labyrinth) and ultimately I don't have much say in whether I'm alive.
who knows if u will die?
u have 2 conf town to BG.

they have to kill the conf town. wtf are u talking about

Scum don't have to do what town thinks they should do... again, see Labyrinth where scum intentionally tried to avoid killing me because they thought I was a mislynch...

Firebringer · Post Post #6563 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:52 pm

i am pretty okay with the scum not killing the conf town if thats the case, that doesn't make it easier for them.
we aren't lynching u as long as i am alive

THE MEME MEN · Post Post #6564 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:55 pm

In post 6547, Nero Cain wrote:I mean sure. Like its equally plausible that he's wrong town and scum that hard defended his buddy. You could argue he's null. At some point i need to re iso him b/c I can't remember anything he's done besides defend Mastina.

Yeah it looks really, really bad on him. I'm not buying the side that people say "oh but he was just fooled by mastina, that's all." Nope.
That along with the no lynch vote on eod 4? That's also suspect of jjh.

And nero, you're correct, we are a doublevoter that auto wins any gladiate and we can parity cop check people. Please no one ask us why rc created this role lol.

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Anyway, so here we have exhibit A, nicorobin, saying on n3 she got redirected so our guilty must not be trusted. Funnily enough, vecna or whoever told us it's actually d5 now so our investigation was on n4, the night we were repaired. Her attempt to discredit us , that alone is alarmingly scummy enough. N3 she or jingle claimed she was redirected, but we checked on n4 according to those who have better memory than I.
Oh and Did I already mention nico thought jjh's claim was less believable than vecna's , for some reason?

We also have LA saying we're scum, and somehow vecna the 3-shot jk believes nero is scum .
LA could be scum, but that's nothing new.

Not sure why shoshin thought we were scum and now doesn't think we are, didn't see explanation for the leap.

-LH

northsidegal · Post Post #6565 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:56 pm

you guys are being stupid and being hyperfocused on something being a scumtell that actually comes from town game after game after game

all the while ignoring actual alignment-relevant information

THE MEME MEN · Post Post #6566 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:57 pm

In post 6563, Firebringer wrote:scum not killing

The way the results from the nights have been going , at this rate, this game could be easy . Barely any kills happening at night

-LH

northsidegal · Post Post #6567 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:57 pm

meh, shouldn't say that you're being stupid. i just think you're focusing on entirely the wrong things and being ignorant when it comes to what is actually alignment relevant, as well as ignorant as to what jjh's scumgame looks like.

Firebringer · Post Post #6568 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:57 pm

In post 6565, northsidegal wrote:you guys are being stupid and being hyperfocused on something being a scumtell that actually comes from town game after game after game

all the while ignoring actual alignment-relevant information

is it funny i have no idea who this is directed at

Shoshin · Post Post #6569 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:57 pm

In post 6564, THE MEME MEN wrote:Not sure why shoshin thought we were scum and now doesn't think we are, didn't see explanation for the leap.

When did I say that?

northsidegal · Post Post #6570 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:58 pm

In post 6568, Firebringer wrote:
In post 6565, northsidegal wrote:you guys are being stupid and being hyperfocused on something being a scumtell that actually comes from town game after game after game

all the while ignoring actual alignment-relevant information
is it funny i have no idea who this is directed at

you could probably quote it at a lot of people in almost any game really

Nero Cain · Post Post #6571 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:58 pm

In post 6548, Shoshin wrote:But Nero goes a step further and starts stoking Fire's paranoia with questions that Nero himself admits don't have any scumhunting direction or intent... he's just trying to make Fire more paranoid of me, which is a really scummy thing to do because that's how scum get town to mislynch townies...

I mean, I asked you to try to understand your motivations. Just b/c I'm being open and honest that your answer would probably not change anything for me doesn't mean my question was directionless. You basicly deflected.

In post 6550, Shoshin wrote:Nero's reads suck throughout the game

I've spent a fair time pushing scum. You I don't think have pushed scum at all this game.

In post 6561, Shoshin wrote:Also, Nero was calling me scummy before I claimed bodyguard... and once scum start pushing someone as scum, they sometimes struggle to change how they approach a player in a fluid and natural way.

you do realize that I'm not even pushing your lynch unless the game isn't over after we lynch the other 3 confirmed scum.

Shoshin · Post Post #6572 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:59 pm

In post 6571, Nero Cain wrote:the other 3 confirmed scum.

Who are these confirmed scum?

THE MEME MEN · Post Post #6573 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 5:00 pm

In post 6309, Shoshin wrote:Most of the scum is in the group of Creature, Nico, Gamma, Aristophanes, Wheme,
Shiro, or Sora.

In post 6512, Shoshin wrote:If it's 6 mafia, then it's Nico, Invis, Nero, and one of Jingle, Gamma, or Lady Angel.

-LH

Firebringer · Post Post #6574 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 5:00 pm

In post 6571, Nero Cain wrote:I've spent a fair time pushing scum

hey buddy u also pushed me and i haven't forgiven u for it yet