Your reasons for voting me are awful. You imply I can't have a wrong read on someone. Muh didn't seem as genuine back then. My opinion is that you are basing this on hindsight because of his town flip. Your basis for voting me sucks because you assumed I knew he was flipping town or something. And if you thought he was so genuine, why didn't you respond to what made him town? When I posted about it.?In post 370, 2ndStoryWindow wrote:I held off on responding to this when it came up (mainly because Alonzo asked for a reason he’s scummier than Vorkuta, Bulba replied saying Vorkuta was scummy too, and at the time I wanted Vorkuta lynched), so call me a hypocrite for doing it now, but-In post 297, Bulbazoor wrote:I want a good logical reason on why muh is town
All of muh’s posts were genuine. If you didn’t see it then, I implore you to reread the thread and convince yourself otherwise. The fact that muh was my sure-fire townread and you’ve been pushing him all game earn you my vote.
VOTE: Bulba
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It’s not a lot, but here’s something. Other than that, I don’t know what you want me to say. Nearly all of his posts seem like he wants to further the game, he was - unfairly - pushed for illegitimate reasons, such as: posting too much fluff (by Flicker), your line where you say muh doubting the doc claim is suspicious, and whoever said his “tone” was scummy.In post 270, 2ndStoryWindow wrote:
Yes, actually. muh's my best townread. Sure, I'll disagree with his doubt in regards to the doc claim - I for one hopped on the believer's train because he's a noob. But other than that, he's done nothing scummy in my eyes so far.In post 231, Vorkuta wrote:Ok then please indulge me- why bad? Has he done stuff to deserve insane townie points in your eyes?
(If you want my honest opinion, I want Guten replaced because we've asked him repeatedly to give his reads and he decides to pop in and make extremely short posts instead. Regardless, I'd rather not go for him today, for two reasons: I've already expressed my belief in his claim; and, I'd rather let him lurk long enough to get replaced so I actually have a chance to read the slot. When he doesn't post, paired with being new, I see no reason to jump to any reads whatsoever. It's extremely annoying, but yeah.)
Hey man, I hammered the dude. I can’t honestly say there isn’t a bit of hindsight. My logic stems from the idea that was my hammer was terrible as and for town, and that my original read, which I should have stuck with, was correct. Therefore anyone who doubted him before the aforementioned lynch is suspicious in my eyes.-
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But I can assume you’re scum for repeatedly pushing him when he didn’t do anything scummy...In post 380, Bulbazoor wrote:You can't assume he was a universal townread or something-
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So, here are the notes from my reread (which was actually just ISOs, so I might have missed a little):
Spoiler: This is a mess, sorry
Is the scum team just Emperor/Guten's slot? It feels like too easy a solve, but my last game was a large (Overkill 1) where the easy solve was also the correct one, so IDK.
I'm a little more comfortable voting Emperor for now, just to give Guten's replacement a chance to post and hedge against the chance the doc claim is real.
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Not sure I agree with this. I know 3/2 LYLO is tight (not that we're guaranteed it with a possible doctor), but another lynch still gives us more information and helps narrow down the pool of suspects.In post 353, 2ndStoryWindow wrote:We’re down to 5v2. We basically cannot afford a mislynch today, given our chances to win go way down. Unlike yesterday, I’m up for a no-lynch today if we can’t come to a consensus.
It's like I already said - it was too awkward and reachy and unnecessary a post to make if Bulbazoor was scum. It was also the first longer, more explanation-filled post of the game, which stands out and seems like bad play for scum. Given that Bulbazoor's an SE, I think he would know better than to post that as scum, especially with how experienced he seems to be (based on join date and post count).
1) "Lynching between Guten and Emperor" isn't the same as wanting to lynch Guten (I was leaning more towards Emperor, a feeling I have obviously carried into today).In post 371, 2ndStoryWindow wrote:You weren’t opposed to lynching Guten but hope his replacement says something. How will he/she do that if Guten gets lynched?
2) I hoped we'd get a replacement sooner and have more time to see what they said (but somebody hammered two days early ).
Sometimes, people are useless because they're scum. In the absence of any other scum reads, that's all I've got.In post 372, 2ndStoryWindow wrote:Why would you lynch Emperor for being useless? I mentioned this above; we can’t afford a mislynch or our chances of winning drop considerably.
(Also, this repeated insistence that "we can't afford a mislynch or our chances of winning go down" - especially with the maybe scumread on me (so is it reallyourchances of winning?) - smell a little LAMIST. Maybe I'm overthinking it and your hammer is actually scummy...)-
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In post 361, 2ndStoryWindow wrote:
To this day I have a problem with this post. Later on you say it’s because you townread me. Why not just say thatin the first place? Me pocketing you is not the same as you townreading me, so I just don’t get it. We had little interaction beforehand, but somehow I ‘pocketed’ you. OkIn post 131, Alonzo wrote:2sw hard pockets Alonzo...
You're not wrong, these posts are designed to be a little provocative, whilst also giving a direct tell on where my head is at at any given moment.In post 364, 2ndStoryWindow wrote:
Trash post, but I’m not sure what to take from itIn post 160, Alonzo wrote:Can we just turbo GT?
I do still TR your entry and push on Flavour, the hard pocket reference was follow up sarcasm from my post about Vork pocketing Flavour like he did, and echoing the sentiments Flavour gave for his read on Vork.
I realise with hindsight these terms are to eccentric for the points I'm trying to make, but they were designed with reaction testing in mind which is my usual D1 MO
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I did not like his push on the doc claim when he could have been real. How hard is that to understand? I went blind to anything else because that just seemed like something that didn't have to be done.In post 381, 2ndStoryWindow wrote:
But I can assume you’re scum for repeatedly pushing him when he didn’t do anything scummy...In post 380, Bulbazoor wrote:You can't assume he was a universal townread or something-
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Flavour what was your reason for wanting Muh dead?In post 342, Rob14 wrote:muh316: Bulbazoor, Flicker, residentcalleddean, Flavor Leaf, 2ndStoryWindow (5)-
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Oh dang...yeah, I’ll do some searching tonight. It was a long time ago on my other account when Bulb was newer.In post 356, 2ndStoryWindow wrote:
Can you please find this game and link it?In post 42, Flavor Leaf wrote:I was your scum buddy in one of your first scum games on site, If I remember correctly. Haven’t played with you in years.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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It was time for the day to end, and he wasn’t a town read.In post 389, Alonzo wrote:
Flavour what was your reason for wanting Muh dead?In post 342, Rob14 wrote:muh316: Bulbazoor, Flicker, residentcalleddean, Flavor Leaf, 2ndStoryWindow (5)
I don’t have strong scum reads this game.
I’m town reading Bulba because he made some plays like the pulling off of me that was townie.
I’m town reading 2nd because he’s doing a try hard town mentality game solvey play.
I’m town reading Emperor because as scum, I don’t think he’d be as lost as he is or wagons getting pushed.
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I might be lean scumming Flicker because he did the opposite of 2nd and looks like a try hard scum mode activated.
I feel Emperor was the easy way out with that reads list, and sat on the fence for most of the reads.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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The “gonna go with town for now” is why I said they all seem to be fence sitting. Flicker could be swayed either way, and chose to push the most inactive person. There’s the least amount of pushback involved, and Flicker seems to be trying to project townieness with the big reads list.
VOTE: FlickerCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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If you're talking about just my notes today, that wasn't a reads list, it was a possible associatives/teams list. I didn't make that clear in the post, but in the last post of mine before that I said:In post 393, Flavor Leaf wrote:I might be lean scumming Flicker because he did the opposite of 2nd and looks like a try hard scum mode activated.
I feel Emperor was the easy way out with that reads list, and sat on the fence for most of the reads.
Pedit:In post 348, Flicker wrote:But, like I said, I want to reread the thread, and see if I can find any associatives between pairs.
Eh, mostly that's just me being lazy. Sue me.The “gonna go with town for now” is why I said they all seem to be fence sitting.-
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