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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:57 am

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In post 171, Donempire wrote:
In post 74, ceejayvinoya wrote:I was thinking that Abyssal's townslip is genuine. That's why I unvoted.
which townslip?
In post 88, Lamees wrote:I picked up irrel wants to get past RVS which I think is good for the game (either alignments) and I think a wagon is the perfect way to do so. We just happened to get a wagon on the wrong player the first attempt.
hmm... what could this lead to?
In post 90, Lamees wrote:Actually wait, auhsoj might be the wrong player too lol. He hasn't posted in over two days.

VOTE: jim
Alright, without the previous post, i could let this slide. But now i cant see your reasoning.
Why are you trying so desperately to get a wagon? Most of the people you voted didnt even write anything contributing to the convo. There are two reasons you seem to bring about with this wagon:
First is to get out of RVS, in which case voting anyone and seeing their reactions will do fine. No reason in changing from whoever you were voting before.
And in the second post, you say that joshua might be the wrong player. And what do you mean by wrong player? He hasnt responded yet, and you just seem to want to jump from wagon to wagon. Explain what you want to do, clearly, uncontradictary.
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I mean, I can't really do anything productive when I don't know how to play, compared to someone who started playing nearly a decade ago.
VOTE: AbysallLord
So you're new huh? Tough luck, you could've just passed this off as simply "i dont know how to play" but you had to compare yourself to muh. Not taking the blame and shifting it by comparing your newbie self to someone more experienced to gain sympathy is the oldest trick in the book. You're going to the gallows, regardless of how much experience you have.
I reallly don’t like this post
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:57 am

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Also that is L-1 if I'm not mistaken?
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:58 am

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There’s so much shade throwing in the above post, based on misinterpretations and negative assumptions
Also *surprise* the replacement suspects the two people who have had the biggest wagons
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:59 am

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Honestly 171 looks like a post from a scum whose partner in the scum thread said “lamees and abyssal are the two easy mislynches, you should jump on one of those wagons”
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:00 am

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:12 am

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Votecount 1.06
AbyssalLord (3) -
muh316, Lamees, Dongempire
Lamees (2) -
AbyssalLord, ceejayvinoya
Okx (1) -
Child

Not Voting (3) -
Okx, Jim Hawkins, Irrelephant11

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2018-12-09 18:30:00).
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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:10 am

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VOTE: dong

Let's get the dong.
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:23 am

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@mod: you have dong on the Vic twice
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:23 am

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VOTE: dongempire
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:37 am

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In post 182, Irrelephant11 wrote:
@mod: you have dong on the Vic twice
Fixed now. Thanks!
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:43 am

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Dongempire seems very suspicious especially picking on me as multiple people made reads within the first few pages (ie elephant)
They've just joined the game so it's probably too early to tell, but since a wagon is forming putting pressure on them to say something would be a good idea I think.
Vote Dongempire


I read Abyssal as somewhat town - I don't understand why they still have 3 votes. Ceejay seems a little mafia. Most others are somewhere between neutral and town for me.
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:44 am

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Scum can indeed figure out who’s widely townread based on readslists, and nightkill them, but they might figure that out anyway (who isn’t being suspected by the other players?) and readslists provide a kind of accountability - you have to show you believe your reads

Town
{Lamees, muh316}
{Jim, CJ}
{Child, okx} - null line. I don’t have a reason to scumreading either of these players but I also have a hard time seeing the game from their perspective/understanding their reads.
{abyssallord} -
{dongempire}
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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:45 am

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Actually move okx up a line in my reads - I like that post!
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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:17 am

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VOTE: dongempire

seem way more scummy than Lamees IMO. i guess you could call this a "sheep"
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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:18 am

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next lad say intent to lynch(?)
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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:28 am

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Yeah wow that’s L-1. That was almost too easy... but if someone posts intent to lynch him, we should then ask for a claim.

Anyone think dong is town?
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:15 pm

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also, don't like the "no reason to jump from wagon" part. they were inactive, and not responding. of course Lamees is gonna switch wagons.
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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:59 pm

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Woah... Dong subs in for a quiet player who rarely posted, and is suddenly at L-1 after only posting three times in a twelve hour time span?? What am I missing that makes these three posts so scummy? Personally, I don't feel like I have enough info from Dong/auhsoj to get a good read.
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:52 pm

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I agree that we shouldn’t lynch him yet, but I think his entrance is very scummy. Without showing much thought as to why, he says he finds the two biggest wagons scummy. I find it overly convenient to the point of being the scummiest play so far. How do you read it?
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:01 pm

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I think it's the negativity and his tone which a lot of people didn't like, including me. These two statements stood out to me as being very aggressive towards two players who have acted the most inexperienced in this game.
In post 170, Donempire wrote:Dont speak unless you have any concrete reads,
In post 171, Donempire wrote:You're going to the gallows, regardless of how much experience you have.
I'm not sure of a lynch though at this point. A quick look at his meta shows that he's an aggressive player. This post from a previous game showcases how aggressive he can get playing mafia
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In post 500, Donempire wrote: You know what? im fucking done. I thought i'd play a proper game in open games after newbie games being easy but in here everyone seems to do fuckall, and lynch a townie that did nothing but scumhunted the entire game, then ignore his entire case and "lynch that scumfuck XD"
I just got my "whole carreer ended" by A2 apparently, which is obviously bullshit, but i couldnt be bothered to do it after the IO disaster and everyones lack of thinking capacity in this game.
You know what? Lynch me. And this idiot is also hopping on the wagon, so after im dead you can see the bullshit in their posts for a mere fucking second and lynch them. Then we'll win. Then i'll stop throwing a hissyfit and boast on about one scum i got lynched after smillion scumreads that were correct.
You are lynching me today, IO tomorrow, A2 later. I dont want to hear one complaint, or telling the scum "lol you played good XD" after game after you didnt follow what i said. Cause if you dont, thats what will fucking happen. Time and time again.
VOTE: Dongempire
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:21 pm

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In post 169, Child wrote:Muh, this goes out to you too, ohx is the one who has to vote, not me, as ive stated my opinions before. He has only done townreads, and that concerns me. A good position to place my vote in for now.
I think you misunderstood my post as insinuating that you are a noob but I was just pushing for everyone to vote so we can get to a D1 lynch.

Lamees' reactions to DongEmpire are genuine and come across to me as town so I think it's fine that the wagon has shifted off of Lamees.

It looks like we have a possible Abyssal or DongEmpire lynch. Since the deadline is approaching fast we should have a claim push at around 48 hours before deadline which should give us enough time if we need to shift off the wagon.
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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:55 pm

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In post 174, Lamees wrote:It's like everyone agrees that a RVS wagon on an inactive player who isnt going to give responses/info/reactions is useless. I AGREE WHICH IS WHY I CHANGED TO A DIFFERENT PLAYER. I even clearly saw and notified everyone that a wagon we have is on a player that hasnt posted in two days so I think we had the wagon on the wrong player and I changed vote.

Oh and remember at the development of these wagons, the players weren't inactive at the time.
Hmm. I misunderstood it. My bad.
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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:00 pm

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This is hilarious, but its definitely an entrance i love after not playing for almost 2 years. Im back!
Alright then, if the IC wants a quick mislynch, he will riddle me this... which shade throwing?
I was very clear about my suspicions against abyysal and i asked lamess a question. There is no shade throwing and sitting in the back. I just joined, dont know the wagons and am trying to push one as is my duty. Prove the shade throwing, or you out yourself as a hypocrite. I'll get back to you when i can get back to my pc.
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:03 pm

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In post 179, Irrelephant11 wrote:UNVOTE:
This post means so much. Its not because its l1 he unvoted, i dont believe. While im out, discuss the implications. I already have an idea. Good luck!
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:46 pm

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In post 198, Donempire wrote:
In post 179, Irrelephant11 wrote:UNVOTE:
This post means so much. Its not because its l1 he unvoted, i dont believe. While im out, discuss the implications. I already have an idea. Good luck!
Please clarify. Are you suggesting he's scum partners with Abyssal?

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