Starcraft Mafia -- Game Over!

[Keyser Söze]

This feels good

VOTE: Nauci

What're your thoughts on Xtom & Performer?

Not Xtom atm, I haven’t engaged him or studied their posts yet.

I did start looking at Performer earlier (was looking at my previous games with Performer (3 years ago ) where I incorrectly read him as scum:

- town-Performer’s tone is just scummy (he’s never gonna be a mass town read player)
- ‘opportunistic’ jumping on wagons (here on the early wagons on Mitillos and Shoshin)
- is not methodical (he asks questions, but does he follow up with chasing answers, and do they help him?)
- lacks charisma (his drive and ‘energy’ is low this game)


Thoughts? Does he look ‘bad’ as town or scum?

I feel a one on one in real time with Performer would help me read him better too.

[Keyser Söze]

May dig up my last game with Varsoon too (I was in a hydra with Frozen Angel)...

[Keyser Söze]

Lol @ having 2 strong instant scum reads in a large game. Get ove4 yourself.

This post I can empathise with.

[Nauci]

700 seems towny to me but I don't know if I'll ever trust my read on Keyser again lol

Keyser xtoxm only has like 8-10 posts please check because it's the other prominent wagon

Okie I'm going back to sleep until my hives go away

Yes, yes I do have the worst medical luck

[Nauci]

Is NM alive it's been 2 days

I miss that quirky miltank

[Not_Mafia]

Oh this started, who’s scum?

[Krazy]

MOD ANNOUNCEMENT

Mewtaph replaces Teacher

Votecount 1.10

Xtoxm(5)

~ skitter30(38), Shoshin(80), Varsoon(69), AlmostNancy(89), the worst(113)

Shoshin(3)

~ Mewtaph(1), Xtoxm(9), Performer(18)

Performer(2)

~ Irrelephant11(54), Creature(65)

Nauci(1)

~ Keyser Söze(44)

Keyser Söze(1)

~ Nauci(57)


Not Voting (3): Not_Mafia(1), Mitillos(29), Saudade(18)

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2018-12-13 17:14:50)

FLAVOR

Spoiler:

[skitter30]

700 seems towny to me but I don't know if I'll ever trust my read on Keyser again lol

Keyser xtoxm only has like 8-10 posts please check because it's the other prominent wagon

Okie I'm going back to sleep until my hives go away

Yes, yes I do have the worst medical luck

why do you think 700 is townie for him? did he recently fool you as scum or something?

[skitter30]

hello mewtaph!

[Performer]

Everyone else: what are your thoughts on Mit's informed claim? Is it genuine? Could it have been faked? Would it be useful for scum to fake something like that?

It could be either. Sure, scum could fake that. At this point of the game in terms of actionable, I dont know how we can use that information against scum. But if its true , that's great .

I looked more at the way he wanted to discern information. It looked genuine . Someone who provides more information like the way he did - Mitil is a solid tr for me , I like his approach .

[Performer]

I can't wait for the game when scum-Shoshin snows you all for eating out of her hands like a bunch of orphans who can't earn a damn thing yourselves.

I find this hilariously and disturbingly ironic.

If you're talking about the game I modded for that first one, you're confusing Sashaddin with Shoshin. Hilarious cluster of a game though.

That game tragically met its end in wildfires in CA

think ill sheep the worst based off 3 posts I've read and assume hes town for the rest of the day

But why is he town?
Nobody else?
Who's scum?

[Performer]

LMFAO
sausage is my friend! I think he's definitely stared into the bully void and decided to become one with it though. he's a meanie

Did you literally just say Saudade enjoys bullying
LOL

I have no idea why AlmostNancy has such a townread.

Has what a townread?

[Creature]

Okay, Performer is really a good wagon choice

[Performer]

Performer, can you link me your most recent town/scum games?

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viewtopic.php?f=51&t=77146

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[Shoshin]

Oh this started, who’s scum?

Not_Mafia is town.

[Performer]

VOTE: Xtoxm

Following Shoshin the Immaculate, the White Tiger King.
Also
Xtoxm, please get in game.

Performer wagon has played out.

VOTE: Xtom

@Performer: I mean when you hop on to the Shoshin wagon, though both you and Xtoxm don't look great there. /shrugs.
I felt both of you were repeating a lot of what I was laying down and not doing that much original thinking.

So I mean, again you're saying I was parroting. How I work is generally vanilla & traditional. If someone votes me and I’m green & they continue voting without addressing posts, well then if you think that’s unoriginal and scummy, well then I don’t know what else to say dude.

sarcastic shitposting about townreading shoshin

This is way out of character for vars no matter what alignment. Is he capable of faking this whole "I tr shos because shes better than me and shes NEVER wrong" thing? I can see that possible.

At the same time, the scatman vs shos 1v1 seems genuine in that vars looked town, from what I saw in that. Reevaluating my tr on vars.

Him & shos somehow being scum together, is something I've been wondering from newer posts. His shift from voting shos into “I follow shos to ends of the Earth” and shos isn’t even a confirmed town. That trajectory doesn't look right.

I need to reread xtox for why he's being voted.

[Performer]

Performer seemed to be OMGUSSING

A50 none of my thoughts on my wagon were omgus . I don't omgus.

[Varsoon]

Oh this started, who’s scum?

Not_Mafia is town.

Yeah this is the kind of play that's so drastically different than mine that I scumread it by default.

@Performer: I mean that people townread AlmostNancy for no good reason.

[AlmostNancy]

*skitter -- you're here because while I am getting better at reading you, your scumrange is super super broad and I think we mutually sort better via real time interactions later in the game

like i said, tfw people think you have a decent scumgame

but fair enough, fair enough

Link? I’ve only ISO’d him in one scum game and he was dreadful in it. But I think his play here reads townie regardless.

So, probably more informative for future games and I’m genuinely curious to see what decent scum!TW plays like.

[Irrelephant11]

Keyser is being weird
Kinda want to vote him just to further the me+Nauci paranoia he’s got going

Ftr I’m only accessing MS from mobile indefinitely so expect fewer long posts and more broken quotes

[AlmostNancy]

I remember having some handful number of townreads but didn't mention them through the thread because it felt too obvious

Please mention. Join us townreaders!

but I didn't keep track of them :/

the worst, what's your take on this? town or scum?

I think scum!Creature is more likely to just throw out townreads for the sake of having made them and is less likely to mention them at all if he's going to freeze up. Imo his reentries to the thread are something scum!Creature avoids. [refer Heroes Wanted, possibly his strongest scumgame in ages]

he's >rand town and >rand not scum unless his scumgame has developed again in a really unusual direction. I'm kinda being pretty cautious with this tho

sorry for the quote but I was really in the zone earlier & mobile posting

Creature isn't an easy read for me atm as you saw in Heroes Wanted but his involvement so far is kinda bringing me back to his early 2018 town meta

He hasn’t really given any reads so far. Nothing out of his scumrange. He is far from obvtown Creature as far as I can see in this game, so far.

I actually gave reads

Yeah, I see now. Okay, TW may be right here.

[AlmostNancy]

I'm getting more early townpings from you than I did in coalition I think, mostly I think we've probably found the right way to read each other accurately

Feeling existential, I think I've learned a lot from a certain off-site game I played with one of the best town players I've ever encountered. there's so many ways to read different playstyles and probably my greatest weakness as a player is derptunnelling playstyles which are incompatible with mine and forgetting to use relevant tells

Yeah, I think that is true for a lot of players.

[Irrelephant11]

I would like to remove AlmostNancy from the townblock unless/until Skitter townreads Almost50 again. Still a townlean though.

VOTE: Xtoxm’s reaction to pressure being *disappearing* isn’t a good look

[Creature]

idk if I like Xtoxm's attitude, but I still feel he's more likely flipping town

[AlmostNancy]

? I agree he's within his scumrange but I think he's further within his townrange

also..... he has been giving reads?

Spoiler:

Performer, Xtoxm, and one of Teacher, Varsoon, or Not_Mafia as scumteam? Seems almost too easy.

Yeah, seems too easy

I remember having some handful number of townreads but didn't mention them through the thread because it felt too obvious

Please mention. Join us townreaders!

but I didn't keep track of them :/

I remember having some handful number of townreads but didn't mention them through the thread because it felt too obvious

Please mention. Join us townreaders!

Okay, let me try:

Irre, Nauci, Shoshin...

Irre, Nauci, Shoshin, Varsoon...

Irre, Nauci, Shoshin, Varsoon, Xtoxm...

Oh right good addition

i think i retract the townlean i had on creature earlier

Curious

I intended to retract the townlead I had on you even before I read this

Irre, Nauci, Shoshin, Varsoon, Xtoxm...

Woops, I forgot you

Irre, Nauci, Shoshin, Varsoon, Xtoxm, the worst...

I've got Irrelephant, the worst, Nauci,

Nancy, Skitter, and Mitillos as town.

???

Lol @ having 2 strong instant scum reads in a large game. Get ove4 yourself.

I remember putting Xtoxm in my townlist because of this

like can you back up how 681 is a valid take for me? his meta I shows you in Labyrinth is dead and you saw that from Heroes Wanted, I'm curious to see why you don't think he's given reads and why you think he'd scum here.

No, I didn’t see it at the time I made that post anything that couldn’t have been out of his scumrange but I see it now.