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Post Post #350 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:38 am

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Votecount 1.10

LolWagons(4)
~ (42), (45), (7), (33)

Almost50(3)
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Clemency(2)
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Egix96(1)
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Not Voting (0):

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2018-12-08 19:29:32)
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Post Post #351 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:39 am

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In post 244, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 233, LolWagons wrote:Because he's a null read, as I explained in my post. Going after the leaning scum read who has not contributed and who everyone let feign activity the whole day today.
It was a waffly read, and easy to pass off as null. I don't like it.

VOTE: A50
You've been FoS'ing me since the start of the game (and I suspect it started before the players list was finalized too!) :P

But why did you wait for Maria to take the initiative for you to actually vote me? Were you waiting for "permission to vote the monkey" or something?

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Post Post #352 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:39 am

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In post 347, Clemency wrote:^just vote this
Sure, I null read the orginal player but LoL is doing some strange tunnel and not explaining anything.
VOTE: LoLwagons
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Post Post #353 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:39 am

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In post 348, Clemency wrote:
In post 345, LolWagons wrote:Lol you’re really not even trying. I am that slot. I can at least assure you it won’t flip scum though!

Pedit: uhuh
you conveniently avoided answering anything about that post other than the last line
Do you want me to try to defend the person I replaced? That’s not happening.
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Post Post #354 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:40 am

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@dave: I waited.. you're welcome. :P

Thanks
:)
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Post Post #355 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:41 am

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In post 353, LolWagons wrote:
In post 348, Clemency wrote:
In post 345, LolWagons wrote:Lol you’re really not even trying. I am that slot. I can at least assure you it won’t flip scum though!

Pedit: uhuh
you conveniently avoided answering anything about that post other than the last line
Do you want me to try to defend the person I replaced? That’s not happening.
ah dang i guess none of that matters now you got me gg
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Post Post #356 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:42 am

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In post 355, Clemency wrote:
In post 353, LolWagons wrote:
In post 348, Clemency wrote:
In post 345, LolWagons wrote:Lol you’re really not even trying. I am that slot. I can at least assure you it won’t flip scum though!

Pedit: uhuh
you conveniently avoided answering anything about that post other than the last line
Do you want me to try to defend the person I replaced? That’s not happening.
ah dang i guess none of that matters now you got me gg
Cool! We’re good then?
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Post Post #357 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:43 am

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sigh
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Post Post #358 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:44 am

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In post 352, 0verki11 wrote:
In post 347, Clemency wrote:^just vote this
Sure, I null read the orginal player but LoL is doing some strange tunnel and not explaining anything.
VOTE: LoLwagons
Not explaining anything? He entered with a full reads list with post references. That's a hell of a lot more than you've done.
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Post Post #359 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:05 am

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In post 358, Persivul wrote:
In post 352, 0verki11 wrote:
In post 347, Clemency wrote:^just vote this
Sure, I null read the orginal player but LoL is doing some strange tunnel and not explaining anything.
VOTE: LoLwagons
Not explaining anything? He entered with a full reads list with post references. That's a hell of a lot more than you've done.
You mean "entered with a full
agenda
" that he executed poorly. Right?

Notice how he entered throwing shad on those who hopped on his slot's wagin, namely ROS & Clem? He then voted Clem which appeared to be lining up with his declared line of thoughts.

Then he "got what he wanted" from Clemency so he votes >me<. What? Where did his suspicion of ROS go? I'll tell you where: He came in with the idea of pushing >ME< anyway. He was just told to disguise it so as not to be too obvious, so he said that thing about hopping on his wagon thinking I was one, but voted Clemency first.

But he
made a mistake
by forgetting whom he himself stated were the suspects (according to his own reads at entry point) and shifted directly to voting me, which was also a bit opportunistic since both listmods voted me before he did.

My conclusion is he probably is NOT scum with either of Maria/PP (they both just LOVE to FoS me in EVERY BLOODY GAME WE PLAY), but it's partially MY FAULT because I had requested that me and Maria don't play together anymore but I didn't pay close attention to the players list when I signed up to this. I just liked the setup and the mod, so I hopped on.

Anyway, I am willing to take on this "LOL" person on a 1v1, and I don't care which if us flips first. All I ask is if I get lynched first that you (plural) won't let him live to see D3.

THANK YOU

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Post Post #360 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:11 am

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Oh I’m still suspicious of ROS. You can be suspicious of more than one person.
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Post Post #361 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:12 am

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How many times are you going to forget PP is the IC?

I truly don’t think you’re putting in any effort to scumhunting. Every time you post you blunder.
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Post Post #362 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:16 am

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You did not state suspicion on >ME< when you entered the game. You stated suspicion on Celemency and ROS, and you didn't even pursue it in the case of ROS, but you saw an opening to your "final destination" and you went straight to it.

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Post Post #363 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:18 am

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I don't bloody care if he is the mod even. He's USELESS (and he can claim that's a personal attack all he likes, but I'm clearly talking about his play. He's doing a good job as a list mod, but his playing skills are way way way below par. Sorry if that hurts his feelings.)

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Post Post #364 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:19 am

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In post 361, LolWagons wrote:How many times are you going to forget PP is the IC?

I truly don’t think you’re putting in any effort to scumhunting. Every time you post you blunder.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Fallacy_fallacy
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Post Post #365 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:20 am

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In post 364, Clemency wrote:
In post 361, LolWagons wrote:How many times are you going to forget PP is the IC?

I truly don’t think you’re putting in any effort to scumhunting. Every time you post you blunder.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Fallacy_fallacy
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Post Post #366 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:21 am

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In post 363, Almost50 wrote:I don't bloody care if he is the mod even. He's USELESS (and he can claim that's a personal attack all he likes, but I'm clearly talking about his play. He's doing a good job as a list mod, but his playing skills are way way way below par. Sorry if that hurts his feelings.)
Okay but the point is you keep forgetting he’s clear and you thought the Shema and I were separate people. To someone who is town it just looks like you’re trying to feign generating content but keep screwing up.
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Post Post #367 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:22 am

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In post 362, Almost50 wrote:You did not state suspicion on >ME< when you entered the game. You stated suspicion on Celemency and ROS, and you didn't even pursue it in the case of ROS, but you saw an opening to your "final destination" and you went straight to it.
And Ejix too. But those don’t look like they’re taking off today. Not at these activity levels.
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Post Post #368 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:23 am

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In post 361, LolWagons wrote:How many times are you going to forget PP is the IC?

I truly don’t think you’re putting in any effort to scumhunting. Every time you post you blunder.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Cherry_picking
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Selective_attention
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
you're only answering specific parts of a50's case
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Post Post #369 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:26 am

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In post 359, Almost50 wrote: You mean "entered with a full
agenda
" that he executed poorly. Right?
Possibly. I like reads lists, but goodness knows I've replaced into a scum slot and made a similar post. Usually buys some time at least. BUT...that wasn't overkill's charge. Overkill said he wasn't explaining anything, which is clearly false (and hypocritical).
Notice how he entered throwing shad on those who hopped on his slot's wagin, namely ROS & Clem? He then voted Clem which appeared to be lining up with his declared line of thoughts.

Then he "got what he wanted" from Clemency so he votes >me<. What? Where did his suspicion of ROS go? I'll tell you where: He came in with the idea of pushing >ME< anyway. He was just told to disguise it so as not to be too obvious, so he said that thing about hopping on his wagon thinking I was one, but voted Clemency first.
To be honest I hated your vote on that slot. I wanted to vote you too, but I also know that: you could be helpful if town; and, I just don't particularly care for your playstyle and I'm therefore biased against you. So, I held off.

Personally I find that whole wagon scummy.
But he
made a mistake
by forgetting whom he himself stated were the suspects (according to his own reads at entry point) and shifted directly to voting me, which was also a bit opportunistic since both listmods voted me before he did.
Reads change, and he did explain it after the fact. But yeah, it was abrupt, and I'm still scratching my head over "I have egg on my face. Sorry Mara." Wagons, what did that mean?
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Post Post #370 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:28 am

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In post 368, Clemency wrote:
In post 361, LolWagons wrote:How many times are you going to forget PP is the IC?

I truly don’t think you’re putting in any effort to scumhunting. Every time you post you blunder.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Cherry_picking
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Selective_attention
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
you're only answering specific parts of a50's case
What am I missing from his case? He literally took three paragraphs to say I didn’t vote another scum read.
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Post Post #371 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:28 am

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a50 and clemency vs lolwagons and persivul
get your tickets here ladies and gents
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Post Post #372 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:29 am

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@Pers

She was right about A50. I hadn’t ISO’ed him. About half the posts are fluff and a lot of the activity is feigned.
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Post Post #373 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:29 am

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In post 371, Clemency wrote:a50 and clemency vs lolwagons and persivul
get your tickets here ladies and gents
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Post Post #374 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:31 am

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In post 372, LolWagons wrote:@Pers

She was right about A50. I hadn’t ISO’ed him. About half the posts are fluff and a lot of the activity is feigned.

It wasn’t really evident until it was in isolation. That was on me for not ISOing each player before reads I guess. I mainly did PBP except for my scumreads.

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