A Story Revisited (Anything uPick): Day 6


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Post Post #7075 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:02 am

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In post 7070, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 7066, jjh927 wrote:It's possible
sure but its also possible that there's only 1 or 3. Your belief that the claimed babysitter AND some unknown rolebloker are both scum is a pretty informed conclusion.
This is a terrible argument on so many levels and it makes no coherent sense. You're suggesting I "know" there are 2 scum left, which is a convenient misrep of what I said. Nobody has claimed the babysitter because that would be dumb. The roleblocker is blatantly scum based on the people who have claimed to have been roleblocked. If it was an "informed conclusion", then I would have to also be scum as well as both of those roles, meaning your argument doesn't even have self consistency.
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Post Post #7076 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:05 am

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So far it seems all roles have max 1 activated ability, and anything extra is like passive stuff. Im gonna keep that assumption in this post.

More or less confirmed stuff (That -might- still have added abilities we dont know about, but most likely only passive stuff if my assumption is correct)
The MEME Men - Double voter Parity cop stuff
Northsidegal Townclear, Question Mark
Profii Townclear, Questionmark + resurrectionstuff?
Vecna Town JK
jjh927 - Vote shit, death proof guy
Creature - flavour cop

Unknown stuff:
Gamma Emerald Question Mark
Porkens message stuff + ?
Lady Angel ?
Jingle ?
Nero Cain ?
randomidget Aristophanes ?
Shoshin Bodyguard claim

What we know must be in the unknown-stuff pool:
-Roleblocker
-Vig/SK type role
-Nurse

NOT TRYING TO GET ANYONE TO CLAIM WITH THIS
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Post Post #7077 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:07 am

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it's like not at all impossible that you are lying about your role and you do have a roleblock.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #7078 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:07 am

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In post 7071, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 7069, jjh927 wrote:That said I'm sure one day something will get past me but it's not today
this coming from the person that hard defended Mastina all game...
Just gonna point out I was still right about her role so yeah

Just happened that she was scum playing very sub-optimally, the degree of which being one of the main reasons I locktowned her
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Post Post #7079 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:08 am

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In post 7077, Nero Cain wrote:it's like not at all impossible that you are lying about your role and you do have a roleblock.
How the fuck did I freeze the votes if I was lying
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Post Post #7080 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:08 am

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Jingle is a pizza vendor and LA is a claimed 1 shot dreaming God
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #7081 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:08 am

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In post 7077, Nero Cain wrote:it's like not at all impossible that you are lying about your role and you do have a roleblock.
He'd be the sole exception to my assessment that people generally only seem to have a single activated ability in this setup.
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Post Post #7082 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:09 am

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I thought pizza vendor was a eufemism for a hidden role?
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Post Post #7083 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:09 am

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In post 7061, jjh927 wrote:Mechanically, needless to say the roleblocker is scum but I'm pretty sure the babysitter can be too
What utility is there for scum babysitter?
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Post Post #7084 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:10 am

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In post 7079, jjh927 wrote:
In post 7077, Nero Cain wrote:it's like not at all impossible that you are lying about your role and you do have a roleblock.
How the fuck did I freeze the votes if I was lying
it's like in addition to. You aren't this dumb...well I guess you could be, idk.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #7085 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:10 am

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In post 7081, Vecna wrote:
In post 7077, Nero Cain wrote:it's like not at all impossible that you are lying about your role and you do have a roleblock.
He'd be the sole exception to my assessment that people generally only seem to have a single activated ability in this setup.
Note to self; assumption is the mother of all fuckups
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Post Post #7086 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:11 am

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In post 7083, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 7061, jjh927 wrote:Mechanically, needless to say the roleblocker is scum but I'm pretty sure the babysitter can be too
What utility is there for scum babysitter?
Protection against the SK killing people for inactivity ~
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Post Post #7087 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:12 am

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In post 7085, Vecna wrote:
In post 7081, Vecna wrote:
In post 7077, Nero Cain wrote:it's like not at all impossible that you are lying about your role and you do have a roleblock.
He'd be the sole exception to my assessment that people generally only seem to have a single activated ability in this setup.
Note to self; assumption is the mother of all fuckups
Its actually kinda a point I like though.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #7088 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:13 am

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In post 7083, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 7061, jjh927 wrote:Mechanically, needless to say the roleblocker is scum but I'm pretty sure the babysitter can be too
What utility is there for scum babysitter?
Let's say there's a town vig or an SK

If the scum babysitter can predict a scum player going to be killed by them, then they protect them.
If the scum babysitter is the one likely to be killed, then they target a town player and go 1 for 1



Their targets have been highly questionable so it makes sense with that logic
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Post Post #7089 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:14 am

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So yeah, im keeping that Jingle and LA claim out of my list since I have no idea wtf its supposed to do, or how we go about confirming that nonsense. Doesnt really appear to make any difference in solving shit, if we do go down that rabbit hole.
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Post Post #7090 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:15 am

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Well yeah I'm pretty sure Jingle's ability does something but all I can do is confirm it gives out pizza
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Post Post #7091 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:16 am

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I mean, if you assume scum babysitter + scum roleblocker you can solve the setup to a pretty high degree now. Someonw could probably do a setup overview, comparing the team strengths to see what is plausible/balanced.

Im certainly not gonna be the person doing all that busywork though. Someone do that stuff, and ill judge it on its merits.
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Post Post #7092 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:18 am

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In post 7088, jjh927 wrote:
In post 7083, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 7061, jjh927 wrote:Mechanically, needless to say the roleblocker is scum but I'm pretty sure the babysitter can be too
What utility is there for scum babysitter?
Let's say there's a town vig or an SK

If the scum babysitter can predict a scum player going to be killed by them, then they protect them.
If the scum babysitter is the one likely to be killed, then they target a town player and go 1 for 1



Their targets have been highly questionable so it makes sense with that logic
Look at the targets again though: hasn’t like 3 different people claimed protection? That means at least one of them is town right? Why would scum babysitter target town?
Pull your head out of your ass and think critically instead of assuming weird = scum.
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Post Post #7093 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:19 am

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Oh also if Creature ever wants to check me out

I got 1 A in DIO, Evil Mastermind

And 3 As in role- 1 in deathproof, 2 in vote paralyzer
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Post Post #7094 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:20 am

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Gamma don't you fucking dare tell me to think critically again when you're clearly lacking in that department by what you just said
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Post Post #7095 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:20 am

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jj and think don't go together.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #7096 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:20 am

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Btw take care of your modding commitments ò_ó
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Post Post #7097 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:21 am

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In post 7095, Nero Cain wrote:jj and think don't go together.
This is more scumposting okay but I'm not gonna get wound up
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Post Post #7098 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:22 am

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Vecna, I don't think Pork ever claimed. Did you get a message when you targeted him?
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Post Post #7099 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:23 am

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In post 7097, jjh927 wrote:
In post 7095, Nero Cain wrote:jj and think don't go together.
This is more scumposting okay but I'm not gonna get wound up
I mean, I asked you to engage me about why I was scum and so far you've failed to do so.
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