This is a terrible argument on so many levels and it makes no coherent sense. You're suggesting I "know" there are 2 scum left, which is a convenient misrep of what I said. Nobody has claimed the babysitter because that would be dumb. The roleblocker is blatantly scum based on the people who have claimed to have been roleblocked. If it was an "informed conclusion", then I would have to also be scum as well as both of those roles, meaning your argument doesn't even have self consistency.In post 7070, Nero Cain wrote:sure but its also possible that there's only 1 or 3. Your belief that the claimed babysitter AND some unknown rolebloker are both scum is a pretty informed conclusion.In post 7066, jjh927 wrote:It's possible
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So far it seems all roles have max 1 activated ability, and anything extra is like passive stuff. Im gonna keep that assumption in this post.
More or less confirmed stuff (That -might- still have added abilities we dont know about, but most likely only passive stuff if my assumption is correct)
The MEME Men - Double voter Parity cop stuff
Northsidegal Townclear, Question Mark
Profii Townclear, Questionmark + resurrectionstuff?
Vecna Town JK
jjh927 - Vote shit, death proof guy
Creature - flavour cop
Unknown stuff:
Gamma Emerald Question Mark
Porkens message stuff + ?
Lady Angel ?
Jingle ?
Nero Cain ?
randomidget Aristophanes ?
Shoshin Bodyguard claim
What we know must be in the unknown-stuff pool:
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it's like not at all impossible that you are lying about your role and you do have a roleblock.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Just gonna point out I was still right about her role so yeahIn post 7071, Nero Cain wrote:
this coming from the person that hard defended Mastina all game...In post 7069, jjh927 wrote:That said I'm sure one day something will get past me but it's not today
Just happened that she was scum playing very sub-optimally, the degree of which being one of the main reasons I locktowned her"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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How the fuck did I freeze the votes if I was lyingIn post 7077, Nero Cain wrote:it's like not at all impossible that you are lying about your role and you do have a roleblock."As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Jingle is a pizza vendor and LA is a claimed 1 shot dreaming GodOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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He'd be the sole exception to my assessment that people generally only seem to have a single activated ability in this setup.In post 7077, Nero Cain wrote:it's like not at all impossible that you are lying about your role and you do have a roleblock.-
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What utility is there for scum babysitter?In post 7061, jjh927 wrote:Mechanically, needless to say the roleblocker is scum but I'm pretty sure the babysitter can be too<Embrace The Void>
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it's like in addition to. You aren't this dumb...well I guess you could be, idk.In post 7079, jjh927 wrote:
How the fuck did I freeze the votes if I was lyingIn post 7077, Nero Cain wrote:it's like not at all impossible that you are lying about your role and you do have a roleblock.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Note to self; assumption is the mother of all fuckupsIn post 7081, Vecna wrote:
He'd be the sole exception to my assessment that people generally only seem to have a single activated ability in this setup.In post 7077, Nero Cain wrote:it's like not at all impossible that you are lying about your role and you do have a roleblock.-
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Protection against the SK killing people for inactivity ~In post 7083, Gamma Emerald wrote:
What utility is there for scum babysitter?In post 7061, jjh927 wrote:Mechanically, needless to say the roleblocker is scum but I'm pretty sure the babysitter can be too-
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Its actually kinda a point I like though.In post 7085, Vecna wrote:
Note to self; assumption is the mother of all fuckupsIn post 7081, Vecna wrote:
He'd be the sole exception to my assessment that people generally only seem to have a single activated ability in this setup.In post 7077, Nero Cain wrote:it's like not at all impossible that you are lying about your role and you do have a roleblock.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Let's say there's a town vig or an SKIn post 7083, Gamma Emerald wrote:
What utility is there for scum babysitter?In post 7061, jjh927 wrote:Mechanically, needless to say the roleblocker is scum but I'm pretty sure the babysitter can be too
If the scum babysitter can predict a scum player going to be killed by them, then they protect them.
If the scum babysitter is the one likely to be killed, then they target a town player and go 1 for 1
Their targets have been highly questionable so it makes sense with that logic"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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I mean, if you assume scum babysitter + scum roleblocker you can solve the setup to a pretty high degree now. Someonw could probably do a setup overview, comparing the team strengths to see what is plausible/balanced.
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Look at the targets again though: hasn’t like 3 different people claimed protection? That means at least one of them is town right? Why would scum babysitter target town?In post 7088, jjh927 wrote:
Let's say there's a town vig or an SKIn post 7083, Gamma Emerald wrote:
What utility is there for scum babysitter?In post 7061, jjh927 wrote:Mechanically, needless to say the roleblocker is scum but I'm pretty sure the babysitter can be too
If the scum babysitter can predict a scum player going to be killed by them, then they protect them.
If the scum babysitter is the one likely to be killed, then they target a town player and go 1 for 1
Their targets have been highly questionable so it makes sense with that logic
Pull your head out of your ass and think critically instead of assuming weird = scum.<Embrace The Void>
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jj and think don't go together.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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This is more scumposting okay but I'm not gonna get wound upIn post 7095, Nero Cain wrote:jj and think don't go together."As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Vecna, I don't think Pork ever claimed. Did you get a message when you targeted him?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I mean, I asked you to engage me about why I was scum and so far you've failed to do so.In post 7097, jjh927 wrote:
This is more scumposting okay but I'm not gonna get wound upIn post 7095, Nero Cain wrote:jj and think don't go together.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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