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[Vorkuta]

So you got what you wanted in terms of claims to solve all the PR's (inb4 you have a rolecop on scum so you get 2 shots)
Now you're finally agreeing to support the EASIEST WAGON IMAGINABLE.

[the worst]

So you got what you wanted in terms of claims to solve all the PR's (inb4 you have a rolecop on scum so you get 2 shots)
Now you're finally agreeing to support the EASIEST WAGON IMAGINABLE.

I mean I'm forced to decide between {Urist, Jumble} realistically. I want URAP2 but it's not a good decision.

[the worst]

I'm going to need some thoughts soon about actually lynching Urist, is anyone for/against?

[Vorkuta]

So now your ONLY concern is to not mislynch a power role. Now that we have 2 claims, you're trying to present a situation where the only way out is a compromise VT lynch?

[the worst]

sorry I'm not sure how to react to that?

if we lynch urap2 now we still have the closed TPR pool dilemma you're outlining here (his flip has his role so )

[u r a person 2]

Okay I'm here. Don't expect miracles this is clunky

[the worst]

Hi here, I'm the worst.

(if you're on android try the "request desktop site" option - I find it helps)

[foodcoats]

Wow TW... only my second game of mafia but you know... the scum get a night kill? Why would you want our PRs to claim? This is super scum play.

[foodcoats]

And why did you suddenly reverse direction on Urist?

[foodcoats]

VOTE: the worst

[pinturicchio]

Sorry guys I had some IRL issues related to the surgery, I have to go to sleep right now and don't have time to read what happened during my absence

p-edit: shit you're scumreading duckling now??? What the hell happened

[foodcoats]

Everyone should lynch the worst, this is super scummy at EOD. Town does not benefit from PR claims on day 1.

[pinturicchio]

I'm giving this 10 more minutes, seriously what the fuck happened while I was gone

[the worst]

Guys you're not going to get a lot out of wagoning me at deadline. I'm roaming around a foreign city with very infequent connection, and will be here to post as much or as little as is possible. I will not have the time to defend myself but lolwagoning me at the end of day one isn't a good idea.

[pinturicchio]

Guys you're not going to get a lot out of wagoning me at deadline. I'm roaming around a foreign city with very infequent connection, and will be here to post as much or as little as is possible. I will not have the time to defend myself but lolwagoning me at the end of day one isn't a good idea.

Who else is voting you and why?? I really don't have time for this shit

[the worst]

Vork for ~the same thing

[schadd_]

Spoiler: soop

Vote count 1.b

NotAJumbleOfNumbers (2):

u r a person 2, CheekyTeeky

u r a person 2 (2):

PvtUrist, NotAJumbleOfNumbers

the worst (2):

Vorkuta, foodcoats

PvtUrist (1):

the worst

not voting (2):

YyottaCat, pinturicchio

with 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. day 1 ends december 12th at 00:30 central US time; in (expired on 2018-12-12 00:30:00)

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[pinturicchio]

Vork for ~the same thing

What's "the thing", give me your version of the facts, I really don't have time

[pinturicchio]

And you're voting Urist??????? For fucks sake

[the worst]

I asked Jumble and URAP2 for claims given Jumble is the generally accepted lynch and URAP2 is busy irl. Cheeky appeared out of nowhere and shaded me for it.

[the worst]

I'll vote Jumble to avoid no lynching but I think Urist is a better call.

[pinturicchio]

Pfffffft and the two claimed?

[the worst]

narp Jumble claimed vt tho

[the worst]

It's pretty scummy considering he was trying to claim Jumble is town based on meta. The whole thing has been a farce really.

what's your suggestion, we just hammer an unclaimed slot? it's {jumble, urap2} here imo. What's the alternative?

You're playing silly here - you know you could have asked for a claim after you decided which was scummier and before hammering. I'm not saying hammer them blind and you know I'm not saying that.

Since pushing for two additional claims that now makes 4 VT assuming U2 claims the same. We now have a pretty narrow PR pool.

I can't really help that we had a lolclaim from a VT at the start of the day and that Urist decided to claim as well?

what's your suggestion, we just hammer an unclaimed slot? it's {jumble, urap2} here imo. What's the alternative?

I see a counter argument that it might be better to lynch a claimed vt on day one even if they have higher town equity than an unclaimed slot for the purposes of protecting the integrity of town power roles

I think this is an abstract plan and pulls the value of the game away from dayplay towards nightplay which imo is less valuable from a teaching POV but I can see why it's surprising

It's pretty scummy considering he was trying to claim Jumble is town based on meta. The whole thing has been a farce really.

Have you been reading my iso or did you decide on this position of shade before reading the game? I've been saying Jumble reads closer to his town meta and I'd be pretty surprised given his playstyle/experience etc. if he decided to simultaneously play a really obvious scumgame in Amphibians and correctly imitate his town meta here

I've also been begging people to engage with me on this which you've failed to do. Instead you suddenly appear at EoD calling my play farcical? That's a joke.

I'll gladly take feedback and talk through stuff but I'm not gonna take that I'm hard defending Jumble when all I have been doing is asking people to give him due consideration and work with me on sorting. That is foul shading and 1252 is frankly the most disappointing post in the thread.

I'll admit I forced out a claim of Urist prematurely so I added to the problem. I wouldn't have minded lynching him if we couldve got enough votes. I wouldn't have minded one more claim before hammer but asking for two is reckless.

Oh TW. You're resorting to shading me now? You have been all over the place about Jumble, I'm not using this to shade you I want to know what on earth you're thinking here. A lot of people, myself included suspected Jumble but there's been an awful lot of hedging around his wagon, so much so it's pretty clear he's town from that alone. I think we flip him and move on before we destroy ourselves completely. I'm staunch on my Yyotta and FC townreads so watch for scum pushing the lynchbait slot tomorrow.

thoughts on this exchange while you're here?

[pinturicchio]

So what's the big fucking deal, asking claims on two leading wagons is common sense when EoD is so close and different timezones are on, especially knowing we have 8 players instead of 9 and Jumble who at this point is a wildcard.

Jumble claiming VT pings me tho, since I expected him claiming a PR since his play is similar to his PR game. You already made your point about him and was legitimate, but him coming here, say that the scumteam is based on something that's not true... I don't know, seems like his survivalism could be either scum or town.