Newbie 1908 [Game Over]

[Nikk]

I'll pop in an intent to hammer here.

[rosterfoster]

Yeah.. do wait for Komodo to claim first. I have no problem with this but we can’t be lynching cop or something.

[Nauci]

UNVOTE:

I'll wait until he actually has time to post, now that he's said

something

in thread.

[Nauci]

Apparently I play drastically different on each of my accounts, though.

Every time you say this

I imagine that one day we'll unmask Not_Mafia, scooby doo style, and it'll just be you underneath

[Nikk]

Yeah I am giving him and others time, of course.

[Nauci]

Nikk, do you have other thoughts on the game?

If Komodo isn't scum, who would your read pivot to?

Can you state why you scum read komodo?

[Nauci]

Komoooooooodoooooooo

where aaarre yoooouuuu

[Flavor Leaf]

And I’m so sorry

[skitter30]

VOTE COUNT 2.2

komodo (2)

- flavor leaf, rosterfoster

Not Voting (5)

- nikk, Komodo, pvturist, xwing, nauci

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-01-10 23:00:00)

mod notes:

- xwing is vla on weekends
-

[Nauci]

And I’m so sorry

what

[Nauci]

I'm going to vote Komodo tonight if he doesn't turn up because the game has ground to a halt

[Flavor Leaf]

Komoooooooodoooooooo

where aaarre yoooouuuu

And I’m so sorry

I cannot sleep. I cannot dream tonight.

[Nikk]

Nikk, do you have other thoughts on the game?

If Komodo isn't scum, who would your read pivot to?

Can you state why you scum read komodo?

Whole lot of nulls and confusion tbh. I'm holding off to see what Komodo says.

[Nikk]

Komoooooooodoooooooo

where aaarre yoooouuuu

And I’m so sorry

I cannot sleep. I cannot dream tonight.

I need somebody and always

[Komodo]

Komoooooooodoooooooo

where aaarre yoooouuuu

I'm going on a posting spree tonight dw.

[Komodo]

It’s probably Komodo based on the wagonomics.

Can you explain this in more detail please? I'm afraid I don't understand how me voting for you with two other townies classifies me as scum?

And Komodo when you return if you can please tell me why in 309 you kept your vote on Null scum (Flavour) rather than Scum (Pvt/Vivit) I would be happy.

Oh lol bc as I was writing it I was at my parents house for the holidays and realized I was about to be late to catch the bus back to my city which is like a 4 hour drive and I knew I wouldn't have the energy to post. That's why the last 5 people ended up just being reads with no reasonings. I knew that if I waited until after the bus I wouldn't feel like finishing it up until the next day. Kinda slipped my mind after writing it though.

Honestly, Salamander's post seem scummier than anybody else's with the counteraccusations. It's natural to get defensive but it's not necessarily natural to counteraccuse. I'll vote

salamander

.

I agree with Roster. It feels like nooby defense more than anything. I wouldn't think scum would be that defensive off the bat. Not wiping all suspicion on him, but I'm not going to hard push him just yet.

What makes you say Munch is a town lean? I'm not getting any scum reads on her, but I'm not getting any town reads either.

I second this question.

Also I saw the new Spiderman movie and HOT DAMN it was so amazing. One of the few movies that almost made me cry

I've been getting scum reads on Jim all game, and with Salamander's more recent posts my suspicions of him have weakened a bit; his posts seem more scrubby than scummy (though that could be exactly what he wants us to think, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now).

VOTE: Jim Hawkins should explain himself or walk the plank.

should explain himself

What do you want him to explain

Okay so like, I could honestly see scum!vivit here. I could see a scum slip of someone just blindly following a wagon while adding a "reason", even if the reason doesn't make sense. Yeah, she expanded on it in the next post, but that's some suspicious wording...

That being said

im not comfortable sheeping nauci based on "not crumbling in real time" as a town read..for all we know pvt is already experienced enough not to crumble under pressure..the scum read on nauci slot based on nauci's early posts seems forced to me..

I want to second this as well. Even if she was town, I don't think a pure noob could do everything she did. Regardless if this is her first game here or not, you have to give some appreciation to her skill and not use her skill to justify a read.

@Komodo, nice to see you are back. Could you give us your readlist?

Absolutely!

Flavor Leaf: Null scum. Almost everything he says feels like a response to someone else that doesn't move the game forward. Not to mention that he has 44 posts by now. That doesn't look good for him.
Munchmellow: I get a strong town read here. First off, everything you've said flows together in a stream of thought and comes with mostly solid reasons.
Nauci: Pretty town. She's dropped from my top town read but still up there.
Roster/Xwing: Both rather town.
Sal/Pvt/Vivit: Null scum/scum/scum.


I'll expand more tomorrow. I didn't realize how long this post would take to type and I need to get ready. I have a hot date tonight

These are all the times Komodo brought up Vivit. The first time it’s to agree with Roster whilst pushing the same agenda as Vivit, but bringing up Roster as the “mastermind”. I like to call that technique Warlocking. It happens subconsciously a lot of times.

The next time Vivit is brought up it is to emphasize that Komodo seconds a question made my Vivit.

I brought the Spider-Man movie up because like...go see it. It’s fantastic. YOURE MY SUNFLOWER!!!

Komodo starts to turn onto Vivit when suspicion spikes up, however they stay in the neutral zone while going “i could see Vivit as scum, but...” paraphrasing, but yeah.

Komodo then goes on to state multiple scum/null scum reads. I am a null scum, along with Salamander.

Pvt and Vivit are both labeled as Scum and Scum, which is convenient because they were in the 1v1 however their vote was on me.

This is a scum slot.

VOTE: Komodo

Your vote in me can be summed up easily by one post that was rushed. I don't stand by how I wrote the post, but I do stand by the content of it. You're criticizing me for keeping the vote on you, but wouldn't it be better for me as scum to vote for Vivit's opposition instead? Wouldn't it be better for me, as scum, to go after my scumbuddy's opponent? How does it benifit me as scum to keep a vote on a dead wagon? It doesn't. I hate that I'm moving around a lot but there's not that much on me for reasoning to be scum.

This is a good batch we have right here

Happy holidays everybody

I'm baking cookies and cooking the rest of the day

But not before doing this VOTE: FLAVOR LEAF

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

Wait really is this honestly the last vote Komodo cast this game

Yeah, I don't like vote hopping that much.

[Komodo]

Vivit doesn’t get lynched as my partner yesterday, Roster. I had opportunities to push other wagons, and I’m pretty good at pushing a wagon when I get in the groove of things.

That’s kind of my style. I don’t participate much in Day 1’s unless it starts to drag on or I get in some kind of 1v1.

Can we talk about how these two statements literally contradict each other?

Also!

I'm basically town reading him because I don't think scum flavor would be so apathetic nonchalant

Do not do this! Literally because:

I’m generally pretty straight forward in newbie games. I like to think I hit all the right marks as an IC. I have pretty strong newbie retention.

@Flavor Leaf: Since you play so many newbie games, can you link a couple of town and a couple of scum games you think would represent your play style?

From newbie games? Because I have a drastically different playstyle in newbie games.

I’ve also played in newbie games throughout the past year and a half and have never rolled scum in a newbie.

I mean, you could interpret what he's saying as "I play differently in newbie games than I do in other games", but that answer was in response to "Show me other newbie games you do". He literally contradicted himself in the span of 8 posts. I don't trust this kind of posting, and now that I think about it, his wagon should have been pushed harder. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

[Komodo]

I cannot sleep. I cannot dream tonight.

Bitch me too. The fuck.

[PvtUrist]

VOTE: FL I'm convinced.

[rosterfoster]

Oh lol bc as I was writing it I was at my parents house for the holidays and realized I was about to be late to catch the bus back to my city which is like a 4 hour drive and I knew I wouldn't have the energy to post. That's why the last 5 people ended up just being reads with no reasonings. I knew that if I waited until after the bus I wouldn't feel like finishing it up until the next day. Kinda slipped my mind after writing it though.

Fair enough.

Your vote in me can be summed up easily by one post that was rushed. I don't stand by how I wrote the post, but I do stand by the content of it. You're criticizing me for keeping the vote on you, but wouldn't it be better for me as scum to vote for Vivit's opposition instead? Wouldn't it be better for me, as scum, to go after my scumbuddy's opponent? How does it benifit me as scum to keep a vote on a dead wagon? It doesn't. I hate that I'm moving around a lot but there's not that much on me for reasoning to be scum.

Well clearly it would be better to for Scum you to vote Salamander or PvtUrist. But since (I assume) you forgot to place your vote then were unable to post for a couple of days, I'm not really sure how this makes you more townie, given the information you gave us above. Out of interest, who would you have voted yesterday if you had remembered?

Flavour is not conf town in my book (like PvtUrist, Nauci, Nikk level), but his more recent posts have felt townie to me for the first time in this game.

[Nauci]

Komoooooooodoooooooo

where aaarre yoooouuuu

And I’m so sorry

I cannot sleep. I cannot dream tonight.

I need somebody and always

This sick strange darkness

[Nauci]

I'll save the juicy stuff for until komodo/his replacement chimes in.

VOTE: FL I'm convinced.

Does this mean that you won't be posting the scum case of me after all? I was so looking forward to it.

[Nauci]

Oh lol bc as I was writing it I was at my parents house for the holidays and realized I was about to be late to catch the bus back to my city which is like a 4 hour drive and I knew I wouldn't have the energy to post. That's why the last 5 people ended up just being reads with no reasonings. I knew that if I waited until after the bus I wouldn't feel like finishing it up until the next day. Kinda slipped my mind after writing it though.

I read this section as the exact same sort of over-explanation that Vivit was doing, tbh

[rosterfoster]

Nah, I thought that about the next section.

[Nauci]

Yeah, I don't like vote hopping that much.

There's vote-hopping, and then there's never voting again after hopping onto a vote I made in a joke post.

The latter is a pretty good indicator of not being able to fake scum-hunting. In combination with the fact that you said you strongly scum read there without even thinking to move your vote, it seems like you weren't sincere about your read.