Mini 2039: uPicketyPicketyPick Mafia Endgame

[Elbirn]

Oh my God succinct is a mastina alt wherein she speaks only in brief sentences

You did it fb you solved the real game

Also chibi i wanna know why your new years takes an entire week who do you think you are

[Elbirn]

Yo fuck page tops

[Firebringer]

if that is mastina, you can consider me replacing out of this.
not playing with mastina or an alt of hers, and if she lies and i find out later. ohh boy will that be fun.

[Elbirn]

Who hurt you?

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah what even happened

[Gamma Emerald]

Actually I have a vague idea
Why are you so butthurt about that game, Fire?

[Not Known 15]

Let's do the minigame, then lynch MariaR. Lynch Kokichi if she isn't confirmed town by tomorrow.
There is not more much to say.

[Kokichi Oma]

Who hurt you?

Lol

[mutantdevle]

Firebringer won today's first minigame but hasn't said what they got from it. We're currently waiting on the 2nd minigame before finalising

I haven’t been told what I won lol

Huh, that's interesting. I wonder why RC and Elbrin were told immediately and you haven't been? For the record, I in no way expect you to claim your minigame role, I was just stating that you hadn't.

[mutantdevle]

Dw mutant I am here
Unlike those other ne'er-do-wells

You being here means jack shit if you're not contributing anything.

[mutantdevle]

Nico is a miller. Kokichi can unlock someone else's minigame role PM if they win a minigame. MariaR is almost* death proof and can become fully death proof if they get into any PT.

Gamma was then the most popular wagon because he did something scummy that I can't remember at this point but then firebringer tried to hammer with his triple vote but failed because he didn't meet the right conditions to triple vote.
NK15 almost got lynched after that but some of us defended him so then a lot of people switched to Kokichi but because firebringer's vote again didn't count as triple Kokichi wasn't lynched and the night phase ended in a no lynch.

Links to these specific areas? (Exact claims, starting+end points of described situations.)

Oh, and I am a Miller.

If I win the mini game, I can unlock a person's 2nd role PM for them. So I can unlock whoever we all think is towniest. Sound good?

Btw I forgot to mention. If I win a 2nd time I can unlock TWO more peoples roles.

Hello I need to be added to any type of PT thank you.

I become death proof.

Well my quest has 2 parts getting into the pt is one. I'm already somewhat not killable at night but I know if I finish it it gets better

Spoiler: Gamma & FB

Gamma had quite a scummy mentality between posts 1624 to 1703 (in my opinion).

VOTE: gamma
Is a rudie pants I wouldn’t vote him ever except now and it’s not like I am sheeping him baka

This would have caused gamma to be hammered had FB's vote counted as a triple vote:

UNVOTE:

I want to go to bed and don't want a Lynch before morning

Does that take away my triple vote?

....UHHHHH how many votes were on gamma before you voted? I think you derp hammered?

He didn't derp hammer because he didn't actually meet the requirements for the triplevote

No I did. I was all tsundere at u

You weren't tsundere at me you didn't mention my name

VOTE: gamma
Is a rudie pants I wouldn’t vote him ever except now and it’s not like I am sheeping him baka

My post auto corrected rc out of it lol.
This is clearly directed at him.

Mod count it

As you can see (especially if you read on) the hammer attempt was fully intentional.

Spoiler: NK15

Votecount #13:

Player	Votes	Voters
Not Known 15	3	Firebringer, Gamma Emerald, northsidegal
RadiantCowbells	1	ChibiBear
Not voting	---	NicoRobin, mutantdevle, MariaR, RadiantCowbells, Nibbui, Elbirn, Kokichi Oma, Not Known 15

VOTE: nk15

between kokichi and NK15 I'm rather lynching NK.

Mutant "but he says similar things as town as well"

and that doesn't make him townie for me, just a bit less scummy.

However, Kokichi willing to publicly say that he can unlock players second role, and not only that, that afterwards he could unlock two people at once and we did get to choose who, makes him a bit townier than NK right now. He would basically be empowering town and I'm not sure he would say that just for the WIFOM.

Maybe. But for now I want someone else.

Also, I don't like how mutant isn't one bit suspicious of NK15. Even if he say things like that as town, won't he do the similar as scum?

VOTE: NK15

VOTE: nk15

I am at L-1 btw.

Meanwhile:

Explain to me how that thought process comes from town more often than scum mutant.

This is NK15 we're talking about here. His logic is always flawed and he seemingly has no consideration for motive what he says points about why people are scum.

Can you not see how bad nk15's vote on me was after the nico thing?

I guess, but that's just how NK15 is. But maybe I'm just giving him too much of a free pass.

NK15 maybe scum. who knows. Mutant's super townread there makes me scared to vote there since I know that I would have trouble reading there.
I don't really know if Mutant can read him either? So, like? I don't know!

I don't have a town read on him per se but I just have heavy caution in lynching him. He has the perfect playstyle to be lynch bait and he's the one person that I'd expect scum to misslynch instead of night killing 100% of the time. Though I guess that also makes his lynch one of the most informative and his flip will confirm whether the people pushing his lynch are pushing lynch bait or just getting lucky in hitting scum as I really don't believe anyone genuinely calling him scum has any valid reasons. They are primarily reading him on his playstyle. And, y'know, I like the guy. As much as his logic frustrates me sometimes his crazy ideas bring a smile to my face.

As far as I'm concerned, we don't need him to be lynched to get AI information from those voting him. And in my opinion we could use someone like NK15. He's an outside of the box thinker. That's useful. Sure, he doesn't always reach the right conclusions, but he really isn't destructive and he's easily controlled. I don't think he'd get much of his own way as scum because barely anyone listens to him. The only times we do is when he's made a solid conclusion for once and that's often beneficial. Lynching NK15 is something I'd be far more comfortable with in the late game because at least then we've had a chance to see how other people interact with him so that judging whether someone voting for him is scummy would be easier.

I'm going to UNVOTE: actually. My reason for voting Kokichi is much less to do with them then it is me just wanting someone other than NK15 lynched. But I'll have no part in lynching NK15 unless I think we'd end in a no lynch without my vote. But I'm pretty sure NK15 is the lynch here anyway.

This is all on the assumption that he flips town. If he doesn't then fuck me I guess but I really would have thought NK15's scum game would be beyond obvious.

At least nk15 town flip tells us we can mercilessly kill all 3 of Kokichi Nico Maria and expect 2 scum flipw

Also, I don't like how mutant isn't one bit suspicious of NK15. Even if he say things like that as town, won't he do the similar as scum?

I'm not suspicious of NK15 because nothing he's done has stood out to me as scummy. What you are scum reading him for is entirely his playstyle.

Also, I don't like how mutant isn't one bit suspicious of NK15. Even if he say things like that as town, won't he do the similar as scum?

I'm not suspicious of NK15 because nothing he's done has stood out to me as scummy. What you are scum reading him for is entirely his playstyle.

I can super empathize with Mutants feelings because I'm reluctant to call nk15 hard town because who really fucking knows but the reasons he's being scumread are awful.

Just because someone has a scummy playstyle doesn't mean they can't get a red role pm

His playstyle isn't even scummy. He just comes to the wrong conclusions and tends not think about things before he posts them. That's my impression anyway. And that kind of playstyle leads to easy scum slips. If he was scum I'd think we'd have a stronger indication of that than just him saying some illogical things.

If the nk15 lynch is town do something about it

I did try to do something about it. Not only do I believe that I've failed that but my alternative wasn't an effective soloution. I think trying to deny that NK15 is the lynch here would just result in a no lynch which is even less desirable and just a waste of an ability.

Nah fuck it I know what to do

VOTE: Kokichi Oma

In the words of internet scumsucker alex jones, Destroy the child

I am at L-1 btw.

Like I'm supposed to hammer the guy who points this out while I'm on a violent indiscriminate rampage?

Wait maybe I am

I'll go get baked and think about it!

NSG has since been a notable defender of NK15.

Spoiler: & Kokichi

I think Kokichi is a solid lynch. It's certainly better than trash wagon and lurker lynch. I personally have my eye on them because he seems to be pretending not to care too much about the game which I've seen him do twice before as scum.

I think that is the only lynch that could happen this phase except my own and Kokichi could be scum. We are still running out of time.
VOTE: Kokichi Oma

VOTE: Kokichi Oma

The only thing that makes me not want to lynch Kokichi is his claim and I think that about sums up their play this game.

(I unvoted in 2433)

Nah fuck it I know what to do

VOTE: Kokichi Oma

In the words of internet scumsucker alex jones, Destroy the child

I am at L-1 btw.

VOTE: kokichi

Ugh, we're running out of time.

I dunno, I think that I was slightly townleaning Kokichi earlier because I feel like scum wouldn't ultra focus on the minigames and ignore everything else like he did, but I'm not sure how valid a 'read' that really is. He actively avoided taking a stance on the 1v1 and during tonight he seems to be jumping on the most popular wagons, which I'm not too sure about but it's not necessarily scum motivated? If he really is town and telling the truth though, then we could be lynching a pretty big potential asset, but even if that’s the case, I'm not entirely sure that I'll ever trust him enough to allow him to use his ability without question. I don't think his claim is a lie as it’s so easily provable, but I reckon it's entirely possible that it is a half truth and there's more to it. At the moment my read on him is null at best.

If NK15's strange logic is characteristic of his play regardless of alignment then he's gonna be a pain to sort with any kind of certainty. His push on Nibbui is very interesting though, would scum start a push against a widely townread player? Or rather more importantly, does his push seem genuine? At the point where he started pushing Nibbui, there were already quite a few votes on him, I feel like if he were scum looking to get out of a lynch, he wouldn't decide to go for Nibbui of all people, I think that his push is more likely than not to be genuine.

Ughhhhhhhh I'm taking a stance here I guess, feels bad to just waste Elbirn’s ability.

VOTE: Kokichi

VOTE: kokichi

Fine I have no read on kokichi.

VOTE: kokichi

Fine I have no read on kokichi.

You have to be tsundere you baka

If FB’s vote counts as triple then Kokichi has been lynched.

If not then the phase ended with a no lynch.

Either way we’re waiting for the mod now.

Just realised I forgot to even do the votecount for that so here you all go and I'm finishing up the night now

Votecount #14:

Player	Votes	Voters
Not Known 15	6	Firebringer, Gamma Emerald, northsidegal, Kokichi Oma, Nibbui, MariaR
Kokichi Oma	4	Not Known 15, Elbirn, RadiantCowbells, ChibiBear
Not voting	---	NicoRobin, mutantdevle

With 12 alive it's 7 to achieve majority for the lynch, which did not happen.

(Vote count here is wrong, as you can see from the quotes FB did change their vote to Kokichi (it was also before the time expired) but the vote wouldn't have been counted as triple anyway).

[Firebringer]

Actually I have a vague idea
Why are you so butthurt about that game, Fire?

What a loaded question u have

[Firebringer]

Who hurt you?

My mother when I was 5

[Succinct]

I am a bodyguard.

Why was this excluded?

Nico did you do that yourself or did someone else prevent your lynch?

Well, I didn't do it.

Doubtful.

---

Kokichi Oma = Firebringer

> mutantdevle > Chibibear > Not Known 15

>

northsidegal

>

NicoRobin = MariaR

>

Gamma Emerald >

Elbirn

Elbirn read takes explaining.
Manipulative neighborhood + RC's 2399 + Elbirn's posting where I've read. Plus current.

[Firebringer]

I am a bodyguard.

Why was this excluded?

Nico did you do that yourself or did someone else prevent your lynch?

Well, I didn't do it.

Doubtful.

---

Kokichi Oma = Firebringer

> mutantdevle > Chibibear > Not Known 15

>

northsidegal

>

NicoRobin = MariaR

>

Gamma Emerald >

Elbirn

Elbirn read takes explaining.
Manipulative neighborhood + RC's 2399 + Elbirn's posting where I've read. Plus current.

are you mastina?

[Succinct]

See sig.

[Elbirn]

Manipulative neighborhood

Excuse you?

[Firebringer]

See sig.

no answer it.

[northsidegal]

why are kokichi and firebringer your strongest townreads?

[Succinct]

Manipulative neighborhood

Excuse you?

Your neighborhood content's manipulative of Nibbui. 13, 15, 17, 20, 21, 29, plus 30's rolefishing.

[Succinct]

why are kokichi and firebringer your strongest townreads?

Firebringer, where he's pushed + role circumstances + sheeping RC.
Kokichi, mostly gut + posts like this.

[Firebringer]

See sig.

no answer it.

[northsidegal]

I don't know, but a scum flip by nico would be good. Considering she hasn't posted much, she could be scum.

she doesnt post much as scum

you think these are reasons to townread kokichi?

seems like something of a flimsy reason to scumread someone – it doesn't help that it's a flimsy reason to scumread someone that i'm nearly certain is town.

[Succinct]

I don't know, but a scum flip by nico would be good. Considering she hasn't posted much, she could be scum.

she doesnt post much as scum

you think these are reasons to townread kokichi?

Yes; it's a reasonable viewpoint I buy as genuine, regardless of its accuracy.

[northsidegal]

i suppose it's not really a necessary conversation to have given that kokichi's slot should resolve itself come tomorrow

i am interested to hear your reasoning on nk15 being town