Starcraft Mafia: 2 -- Game Over!
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we're also feeling that in our PT.In post 873, Alchemist21 wrote:I’m in the same boat. Everyone is either Towny or null.
so it's time to lynch a scummy lurker. still liking Kokichi for that. (or he can activate his IC.)
the reason i shy away from a Nico lynch is because her slot is almost completely null, but slightly towny for the complaint of being replaced in so early when she didn't really want to be. as for her meta, if she was scum i believe she'd often (not every time, mind you) at least vote someone by now.
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pedit: from Varsoon's pov, he has a strong scumread and some townreads. so it's at least consistent. i'm trusting Almost's read a little here, and he has good reasons (you can ask him if you like, or i can attempt to explain though i don't have the meta he does). the other good point for Varsoon is the dayvig claim, which for me is an automatic "let him live at least for today" sort of thing.-
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To paraphrase someone talking about another slot onceIn post 841, ProFlavor wrote:
I played a game with Nico where Nico insisted lurk meta was town indicative but then Nico lurked and flipped scum :@In post 539, Shoshin the worst wrote:
Wow where did you hear this?In post 381, Varsoon wrote:
Shitty reads are an inherent part of mafia. Players swapping at the table in long-form play is not a design element of the game.In post 367, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:Game integrity is also compromised by shitty reads, so there’s that too,
Anyway.
I heard that the lurk-meta on Nico indicates scum there but I don't really know if that's true or not.
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Big mood.In post 873, Alchemist21 wrote:
I’m in the same boat. Everyone is either Towny or null.In post 870, profii wrote:
Your read list is like a lot of town reads and question marks on the lurkier slotsIn post 868, u r a person 2 wrote:
lots out of game on my plate today. haven't read over yesterday yet. this is where im at right now. I'm also interested in taly as I continue doing a round of looking at my town reads.In post 855, Varsoon wrote:What are your reads, URAP2?
Care to share who you are PoE'ing through and why?
I've been just kinda glossing your recent posts, so if there's answers there, sorry.
Feed it to me
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1. Michael Scott (Auro + Volxen Hydra) town
2. Shoshin the worst (the worst + Shoshin hydra) ???
3. Mewtaph ???
4. u r a person 2 hey, that's me
5. AlmostChara (Almost50 + Chara Hydra) town
6. Mephistophanes 39 (Nancy Drew 39 and Aristophanes hydra) town
7. pinturucchio town
8. nicorobin ???
9. ProFlavor (Flavor Leaf and profii hydra) ???
10. Kokichi Oma ???
11. Tibor and Lumia (brassherald and Gamma Emerald hydra) town
12. alchemist21 town
13. Taly town
14. Varsoon town
I did a similar read list and got similar results in my hydra PT
So when STW said this game is hard to read I kinda town read that - because for this reason, it kinda is-
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Shoshin the worst Goon
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in Flavor's example, you have Nico trying to use her self meta as scum.In post 878, Shoshin the worst wrote:To paraphrase someone talking about another slot once
When your meta is literally not posting as town, it's pretty easy to manipulate
that's different from here. she could be scum, it's a very weak townlean, but there are better lurkers to go after here.
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I'm kind of fearful that I have townreads, but very little scumreads, and multiple null. :/ Making another post-note to reread the past 10 pages when I get to theUP2wagon assessment.
My nullreads are particularly the lurkers... and part of me townleans the people who are in the same boat as me, but that's a bit superficial."Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
"The human race is bad at reading Taly." ~the worst
"Taly I knew your slot was scum and I still struggled to find arguments to SR your play lol" ~Infinity 324
"Taly wins for the most fence-sitty reads in a game ever" ~Battle Mage-
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Pre-reread, I'm still good with myKokichivote, I want to see the validity of his claim, and from my experience,Nicodoesn't even have meta since she doesn't do anything.
Slightly anxious that we have deepwolfs in the thread, but I have neither the reason or the cause to entertain that thought further."Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
"The human race is bad at reading Taly." ~the worst
"Taly I knew your slot was scum and I still struggled to find arguments to SR your play lol" ~Infinity 324
"Taly wins for the most fence-sitty reads in a game ever" ~Battle Mage-
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I have multiple pretty strong townreads, townhunting's fun."Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
"The human race is bad at reading Taly." ~the worst
"Taly I knew your slot was scum and I still struggled to find arguments to SR your play lol" ~Infinity 324
"Taly wins for the most fence-sitty reads in a game ever" ~Battle Mage-
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In post 882, Shoshin the worst wrote:We're comfortable wagoning either of Kokichi and Nico honestly. Convince me on someone scummier than Nico?I don't think you ever answered or addressed this.
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The last page where a load of people (inc me) have all come out and said “not really got any scum reads” makes me consider the scenario = there is a good scum player amongst the seemingly town bunch and scum are happy if we go Koki/Nico
Perhaps - could the redirect to a lurk lynch be a counter wagon to the heat on STW? In terms of no real counter wagon formed away from STW therefore scum are trying to get town to policy lynch a lurker?
Food for thought
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It makes me feel better to see that everyone thinks this is hard 'cause Almost50 called me out for not having more scumreads and I felt it and I wanted to make more effort looking for something else but I'm: 1. Really tired all the time because of surgery and 2. A little burned out with mafia right now. I suscribed to this game 'cause I saw a lot of lovable players and thought that would make this game easier since I have a good record on reading people I have already played before. Not because of meta, but because of mood and playstyles.
That being said, I did my homework and I'm pretty much convinced that Tibor and Lumia are town; STW are town; Mephistophanes are town; Varsoon is town. I'm townreading both heads of Tibor and Lumia and Meph, and I have a solid read on the worst too.
URAP2 has townied it up a lot since my first pushing attempt, and I'm not as convinced as I was before; however, I still see some inconsistencies and I can't let go the things I pointed out before about him.
Both Proflavor and Almost Chara are making me paranoid; that being said, the times I've gotten paranoia because of profii he was town, and A50 ALWAYS makes me paranoid. Profii, is there any option of getting more of Flavor? Have he at least said something in your Hydra PT?-
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Shoshin the worst Goon
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I did.In post 887, Varsoon wrote:In post 882, Shoshin the worst wrote:We're comfortable wagoning either of Kokichi and Nico honestly. Convince me on someone scummier than Nico?I don't think you ever answered or addressed this.
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no idea - his last post was when he said nice read list regarding something i posting on p15 so i dunno where he is rn - i want to know what he thinks too, he often has different reads to me and with lots of people sayings it's hard i think he could just help us with a new angle if that makes senseIn post 889, pinturicchio wrote:Profii, is there any option of getting more of Flavor? Have he at least said something in your Hydra PT?
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That's my thought exactly, Flavor has that confidence that can rekt this shit up, and would help me sorting you too. As I said, you always give me the heebie-jeebies since your first game ever, I can't recall the name but it was a Newbie where you claimed doctor iirc and survided until LyLo and I was so fucking sure you were the remaining scum. From there to Overkill II there hasn't been a game I have read you correctly but I don't have an N big enough to have statistical significance. Also of course I agree with myself lol.
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Dude I want to like you, stop doing scummy shit
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i kinda had a feeling you were an alt but didnt know we had played together before all my games are on my wiki (not this profile obvz)In post 892, pinturicchio wrote:That's my thought exactly, Flavor has that confidence that can rekt this shit up, and would help me sorting you too. As I said, you always give me the heebie-jeebies since your first game ever, I can't recall the name but it was a Newbie where you claimed doctor iirc and survided until LyLo and I was so fucking sure you were the remaining scum. From there to Overkill II there hasn't been a game I have read you correctly but I don't have an N big enough to have statistical significance. Also of course I agree with myself lol.
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interesting
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haha i just checked my wiki - thats the game where scioness sajj was scum - when we started this game i confused scioness with shoshin and thought they were the same person - so i posted a load of stuff in the hydra pt like 'ok i played with scum before here are some meta tells' but then was like oh shit this is different peopleIn post 892, pinturicchio wrote:That's my thought exactly, Flavor has that confidence that can rekt this shit up, and would help me sorting you too. As I said, you always give me the heebie-jeebies since your first game ever, I can't recall the name but it was a Newbie where you claimed doctor iirc and survided until LyLo and I was so fucking sure you were the remaining scum. From there to Overkill II there hasn't been a game I have read you correctly but I don't have an N big enough to have statistical significance. Also of course I agree with myself lol.
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shouldn't you be counting then?
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I saw that we were playing with Ari and thought "hey this guy modded my first game ever!" and realized I was thinking of Assemblerotws in my defense, I was thinking "I know this guy" 'cause I saw his name a lot before, but it was because he was the Micro Listmod.In post 896, ProFlavor wrote: haha i just checked my wiki - thats the game where scioness sajj was scum - when we started this game i confused scioness with shoshin and thought they were the same person - so i posted a load of stuff in the hydra pt like 'ok i played with scum before here are some meta tells' but then was like oh shit this is different people
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