Newbie 1910: Aerial Photography [Game Over!]

[northsidegal]

VC 2.2

votes

[2] YellowSnow

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Junk 594, JunkoChan 629

[1] GuiltyLion

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YellowSnow 600

[4] Not Voting

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vesper7, GuiltyLion, brassherald, GrandWazoo 663

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch

The Day 2 deadline is in

: (expired on 2019-01-16 15:01:59)

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[YellowSnow]

The GL omgus just proves he is scum. If I get lynched he goes next.

[brassherald]

I'm on a date tonight. She's briefly away, I'll be back tomorrow morning for reals

[GrandWazoo]

This is regarding several reactions to yellow's failure to comprehend the 9 setups, which was definitely an obtuse oversight but not scummy imo. Junko expressed surprise that such a "cold minded" and "smart" player as yellow would commit such a faux pas (Junk agreed). That exchange between me and yellow about scum vs. town probabilities alone should render both Junko's adjectives non-operational. OTOH it's not the kind of inane argument I'd expect scum to actively engage in the first place. I get why you're scumreading yellow, but if you look at that other game (1906) you'll see the same kind of behavior.

I got the sense he was faking that slip to try to come off as newbie town - I don't see how it relates to the exchange you had about scum v town probabilities. The only thing I see out of Yellow is attempts to make other players look bad and plays at self-defense. Especially considering his D1 commentary on you, I still can't grok your townread on him here.

Lemme put it this way: Yellow isn't the kind to fake slips. He just slips. When he attacks, he does so on specious or downright unintelligible grounds. When he gets defensive, he flails. This isn't fake newb to me, but plain old newb. My initial read on him in that previous game (I know, it was only one game, but it's consistent with his play in this one) was like yours, newbscum. But I and others came to the conclusion that he was just confused.

and you kinda dodged my question about your callout of me being irrationally supportive. Where in this game did you get the sense that I was doing that? Like I was townreading you when you were the main wagon of the day, but I don't believe I fought all that hard against your wagon

also why the unvote in 663?

In 39 and 103 and again in 138 you seemed a bit overeager to townread me, then in 140 and 143 you seized on yellow's responses to me regarding theory, an exchange I found annoying but more yellowderpy than scummy. I'm probably the irrational one, paranoid about being pocketed based on painful prior experience. Not a big deal.

I unvoted because Yyotta's replacement was announced. Call it a gesture of hope that the new guy will finally help sort that slot. I'm verrrrry interested in what this latest replacement has to say.

[Junk]

I wouldn't rule out a YellowSnow + GuiltyLion scumteam, I suppose

[YellowSnow]

Junk has an inability to listen, obvioiusly.

[Junk]

Who is GL's scumbuddy?

Why make these posts when we're playing a game about lying

[YellowSnow]

It's hard to say until we hear from the replacement but right now I'd probably say brass or vesper.

[YellowSnow]

But the idea of the game is to decide who to listen to and who not to listen to, not to listen to only yourself.

[Junk]

LOL

Now that's pretty silly

[Junk]

But the idea of the game is to decide who to listen to and who not to listen to

And I chose not to listen to you

So what's the problem now buddy?

[YellowSnow]

Not really, no one is going to gamesolve all by themselves.

[YellowSnow]

But the idea of the game is to decide who to listen to and who not to listen to

And I chose not to listen to you

So what's the problem now buddy?

Nothing, it's just not the prevailing opinion.

[Junk]

Not really, no one is going to gamesolve all by themselves.

Talk about self-limiting yourself man, sheesh

It's like people are afraid of growing stronger

[YellowSnow]

Power is derived from teamwork, not individualism.

[Junk]

Okay, Commissar Joseph Stalin, my bad.

Do you also happen to drink vodka and pray to Bears as a holy animal?

[GrandWazoo]

If I had the time, patience, and fucks to give, I'd ISO Junk to see how many players he's scumread, along with the alleged scumteams. Since I don't, I'll just say Junk has successfully gone through every possible permutation.

Junk is like a tweaked out chimpanzee with a TEC-9, spraying lead everywhere and claiming he's hit a scumbag with every round.

pedit: the Stalin line was pretty good though.

[YellowSnow]

If I had to choose, I'd say the game of mafia is more communist than capitalist in nature though.

[YellowSnow]

It was actually created by a Moscow State University professor.

[Junk]

Junk is like a tweaked out chimpanzee with a TEC-9, spraying lead everywhere and claiming he's hit a scumbag with every round.

LMFAO

i love this guy

[Junk]

It was actually created by a Moscow State University professor.

Yep. And he's still alive. His name was Dima something something.

[JunkoChan]

YellowSnow is just googling quotes at this point and GW why are you defending him so much? I do agree that Junk called almost every player in this game scum maybe to come at the end and say I TOLD YOU SO regardless of the ending, but I do believe Yellow madre a mafia opssie

[GrandWazoo]

Junko, I'm not saying yellow isn't scum. As I've explained several times now, I haven't seen sufficient evidence that he is. All I've seen is a continuation of the same kind of goofball behavior I saw in the previous game where he was town. Since we really have to get today's lynch right, we need more than GL's case - which is compelling but not conclusive imo - and Junk's argument by relentless repetition.

Also, what the hell happened at the end of your sentence?

[brassherald]

Screw it, I rescind my request to take your time this phase.

Pretty sure Junk and GW are town at this point. Junko is a good bet as well. I know I'm town, so we have the pool of 3 to lynch. I'd love to get the thoughts from vesper before I place my votes, but, like if that's just going to be an empty slot for the rest of the game, so be it.

[GrandWazoo]

I refer you to the setup template:

	A	B	C
Mafia	Mafia Roleblocker	Mafia Rolecop	Mafia Goon
Row 1	Town Cop and Town Neapolitan	Town Cop and Town Tracker	Town Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2	Town Jailkeeper and Town Doctor	Town Jailkeeper and Town Tracker	Town Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3	Town Cop and Town Doctor	Town Neapolitan and Town Doctor	Town Tracker and Town Doctor

From the

town perspective

, there are nine possible setups. But from the

scum perspective

there are only three - A, B and C. If one scum is RB then A, if rolecop then B, if both are goons it's C. Now let's say you're a cornered scum at L-1, and being forced to fakeclaim. Which do you pick? Doctor seems a bit risky since from town's perspective there are 4 scenarios (A2, A3, B3, C3) in which you could be CC'd and strung up. But scum know there are only 3 scenarios at play, either A1-3, B1-3 or C1-3. Thus the Doc claim is twice as likely to be CC'd in scenario A than in B or C. Specifically if one of you is a RB (A) then Doc is the last PR you'd claim. Only if one of you is rolecop (b) or both of you are goons (C) is Doc the percentage play.