In post 318, Munchmellow wrote:
I would call what Enter did tunneling, btw. And Enter has done it before on a town player, so it is NAI or it even makes him town.
Do you mean "as a town player"? If so please share the game.
In post 322, MagikHorse wrote:A point where a point is due with Thespio, but as I said earlier it really irks me that people are still hunting via team searching. Until a red flip happens, that is going to be stupidly inaccurate and makes it look like you're just lining up a possible lynch for tomorrow. It's not a good way to scumhunt this early on.
In post 320, Elements wrote:This obviously makes me question Enter's alignment more and upon reading Thespio's iso i can definitely see the possibility of an Enter/Thespio scum team going on.
At this point I am willing if he flips town to view him as scum and start my vote on him, I am verily sure he is town right now albeit loopdan flipping town makes him either an anti-town or scum. But at this point with the case presented I doubt I will have to look at him like scum.
Why do you say this? Until their latest two posts I've seen nothing notable or memorable from them, and they're the one scumread I have besides you and potentially Muh for that sort of behavior.
My #1 scumread if Loopdan flips town is: Elements/Muh (a.k.a. no significant change from the current state)
My #1 townread if Loopdan flips scum is: Enter (No real faith that Scum would do a tunnel bus this deep D1, especially with Loop forcing it between himself and Enter)
In post 333, Elements wrote:My #1 scumread if Loopdan flips town is: Thespio
My #1 townread if Loopdan flips scum is: Enter
This is interesting, can you explain how you went from reading us as a team to reading us as polar opposites?
My thoughts are you two are scum team pushing on Loopdan, so if he flips town i will continue with that train of thought. But if loopdan flips scum that's me theory out the window and i highly doubt Enter would bus his scum partner day one so vigorously hence him being my biggest town read
In post 322, MagikHorse wrote:Also, Elements, are you just unswayed by the arguing, thinking it's TvT or something, or are you just out there to fry the bigger fish?
In post 330, Loopdan wrote:Before I'm hammered I want everyone to post the following info. Just copy and paste and add your answer. No explanations needed. Just a name for each.
My #1 scumread if Loopdan flips town is:
My #1 townread if Loopdan flips scum is:
Don't answer this if you can avoid it (some people already have). The reason you don't do this is because it really helps scum know who to kill - It gives away who they're gonna have a hard time lynching (note #1 townread if Loopdan flips scum).
In post 330, Loopdan wrote:Before I'm hammered I want everyone to post the following info. Just copy and paste and add your answer. No explanations needed. Just a name for each.
My #1 scumread if Loopdan flips town is:
My #1 townread if Loopdan flips scum is:
Don't answer this if you can avoid it (some people already have). The reason you don't do this is because it really helps scum know who to kill - It gives away who they're gonna have a hard time lynching (note #1 townread if Loopdan flips scum).
Wouldn't this just get into WIFOM? if i was scum and killed elements it would be incriminating, if you killed him to frame me it would have the same outcome. Doesnt more information about views help town?
In post 342, Thespio wrote:Wouldn't this just get into WIFOM? if i was scum and killed elements it would be incriminating, if you killed him to frame me it would have the same outcome. Doesnt more information about views help town?
From my experience, it's more WIFOM-y in the other direction. This discussion would be safer to have tomorrow. People's views will change over night, so tomorrow at beginning of day everyone will prolly have different reads than they did at end of day today - and you can't hold them to the reads they had now, because they'll say "I reread the game thread overnight." However, one of the hardest things as newbie scum who is about to have to play without the discussion of the second player is picking the night kill. A lot of the time (at least, I personally have had this problem) the player will be biased towards a certain player that they've interacted with the most. The night chat for scum will often keep that player in line as both people will have to go re-read to check and see who's right.
In post 338, Elements wrote:My thoughts are you two are scum team pushing on Loopdan, so if he flips town i will continue with that train of thought. But if loopdan flips scum that's me theory out the window and i highly doubt Enter would bus his scum partner day one so vigorously hence him being my biggest town read
I think this is flipped then right? If he flips scum you will TR Enter because you dont believe in bussing? if hes town you would think we are team so its both of us with a lean on me?
In post 338, Elements wrote:My thoughts are you two are scum team pushing on Loopdan, so if he flips town i will continue with that train of thought. But if loopdan flips scum that's me theory out the window and i highly doubt Enter would bus his scum partner day one so vigorously hence him being my biggest town read
I think this is flipped then right? If he flips scum you will TR Enter because you dont believe in bussing? if hes town you would think we are team so its both of us with a lean on me?