Mini 2056: Ballroom Blitz (Game Over)

[BNL]

Votecount 2-4 (17)

Aronis - 3 (Darkwing Duck, AP, LabRat01)

Kokichi Oma - 1 (Slaxx)

AP - 1 (Aronis)

Not Voting - 6 (Kokichi Oma, Moment, EeveeLution Army, redtea, mcqueen, Eragon)

12

alive;

6

to lynch.
Deadline: Saturday, February 9th, at 1:30 PM PST: (expired on 2019-02-09 17:30:11).

Pending Dance Offers

None.

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modnotes

• mcqueen has been prodded. He has this long to post content: (expired on 2019-02-08 08:09:48).

[EeveeLution Army]

Here are my more solid opinions.

Spoiler:

Town
Labrat goes without saying.
AP is just here to have a good time but it's not happening. In a more active game he'd probably be making himself more useful.

Neutral-Town
Darkwing's MO looks to be provoking people for reads. Just that sort of scumhunting, I don't see anything wrong with it.

Neutral-Scum
Eeveelution and/or (mostly or) Eragon
Should be more concerned of being a target of scum. Eragon didn't make the dance offer right away. He suggested it, then they took the time to decide who should initiate. If they don't scum read each other, why would they dance and make themselves a target for scum? Why didn't they think about it more, or consult the rest of the players?
Is one of them sure they won't be killed? The only way it makes sense otherwise is if one of them strongly suspects Slaxx/Mcqueen is PR and is trying to draw the NK away.
Eevee of course is a little more suspicious here for not even being wary of offer.

I also still stand by the "one of the more active posters is scum" thing. The general reads do seem to be skewed towards lurkers (including mine), negatively, so I wonder if attention is being diverted from elsewhere. But that sounds like a D3 conversation.

And why do you think aronis is lazy town rather than lazy scum? And if you were to get lynched, who would you dance with?

Well, now he's trying a little more. So once again, I don't know what to make of him. Whether it's just not knowing what to do about the game or he's now posting out of scum-obligation. If I tried to dance with him he would probably reject it, but that's not a reason not to.
If I were to get lynched, I'd dance with one of my (kind of) scum reads (both of which are unavailable until tomorrow) at least to try to draw something out. So failing that, probably Moment, though I'd almost certainly lose the duel.
Dancing with Aronis in that situation might as well be a scum claim.

@Aronis
You are many people's scum read, and neither I nor Koki are especially high on people's lists. Those reads

are

the arguments I think.

Now Slaxx might clarify his post?

my question is if you are getting lynched anyway and your scumread is town. wouldnt it be suicide to accept it? and not inherently AI?

[EeveeLution Army]

well bah
I wanted to do this in the middle of the day because bah
thanks guys for lynching me after claiming really appreciate it

i forgot bah posts were allowed here

[Eragon]

Do we want to extend the day by 24 hours in the hopes that people come in and start posting(myself included)?

[Eragon]

Do we want to extend the day by 24 hours in the hopes that people come in and start posting(myself included)?

Hit submit too soon

Or would that just prolong the agony and make us lose more WIM?

[Eragon]

It’s really funny how people assume that I should scumread eevee based on the dance, when i’ve Clearly stated multiple times I have a townread on them.

Also redtea’s rolefishing is ew

[EeveeLution Army]

Do we want to extend the day by 24 hours in the hopes that people come in and start posting(myself included)?

Hit submit too soon

Or would that just prolong the agony and make us lose more WIM?

tbh would it be better to just get this day overwith and hope a fresh day revigors people?

[Aronis]

this game is weird and i am very confused. maybe i should just go back to lurking lol

[redtea]

I do not

want

any claims.

Yesterday we also hoped a new day would reinvigorate people.

[mcqueen]

I’m here please do not replace me

[mcqueen]

I checked Aronis’ ISO and it’s pretty bad. Very few posts and only 1 of them includes decent content

[Slaxx]

We absolutely need to pair because they become lovers and we get two flips, thus increasing the share of pro-town lynches to mafia kills.

Unless I misunderstand something?

I don't understand what you mean.
Are you saying information from what might end up being a S/T lynch would be worth it? Or are you that hopeful in netting S/S, to even out the lovers NK?

I’m saying that if we always pair people up it’s like double day, which is generally beneficial.

Think about it this way, assuming all MLs.

1 Lynch (12)
1 Kill (11)
1 Lynch (10)
1 Kill (9)
1 Lynch (8)
1 Kill (7-Lylo)

3 of each.

Or

2 lynch (11)
1 kill (10)
2 lynch (8)
1 kill (7)

4 lynches
2 kills

Thus taking away mafias influence on the game.

[AP]

We absolutely need to pair because they become lovers and we get two flips, thus increasing the share of pro-town lynches to mafia kills.

Unless I misunderstand something?

No, you're absolutely correct .. mechanically. However, with stalling and refusing to cooperate there's not much we can do about it and the one thing you can do is just lynch the uncooperative player.

[Darkwing Duck]

Why are redtea and mcqueen not being wagoned?

[Darkwing Duck]

I suppose I'll be the change I want to see.
VOTE: mcqueen

[Darkwing Duck]

I'm the head who hasn't been posting by the way. Hello.

[Darkwing Duck]

*The head that posted most of the end of day 1 and everything today before those last three posts*

I'm just gonna assume Slaxx is confused af by that vote so I'll remind him that the other head has only now really got caught up and we're discussing some reads

For the shorterm future I will be using signs of our catchphrase, "Let's Get Dangerous."

Unsigned posts will be the head that was posting mostly at the very start of day 1 and then not much at all since then.

Sorry for the hydra confusion

Let's Get Dangerous

[Darkwing Duck]

Ok so my other head, let's call him Mallard, is feeling a bit better and gave the thread some time. Our read's don't totally converge. He's at:
{dwd}
{moment, labby, kokichi}
{aronis, eragon}
{eevee, slaxx}
{redtea, ap}
{mcqueen}

Whereas my reads are more like:
Slaxx -- I didn't like his entrance but he's at least playing pro-town regardless of alignment
Moment/AP -- Moment mostly for bothering to vote no lynch; I townread AP's dance request yesterday but I would like to see more from him
Eevee/Eragon/Labrat -- complicated reads/mixed feelings -- if Mallard is right about McQueen, then Eevee/Eragon gets flipped tomorrow morning
McQueen -- feel like he should have done more by now or used his PT, I know real life happens but I've seen McQueen show up before and he isn't here
Kokichi -- Kokichi used to have a meta of doing nothing as town; I appreciate Mallard's tonal read of one of Kokichi's posts, but I need to see more from Kokichi before I really resolve this read any better. I'm fine with him going.
RedTea/Aronis -- don't townread anything here

So we're a bit out of sync right now and sorry if that's not helpful to anyone or it seems like theater.

Basically, Mallard strongly scumreads McQueen, and I null-scumlean McQueen and townread Slaxx. Given that, if we are lynching McQueen, I would rather it be after the lovers mechanic dissolves.

Mallard townleans Aronis's apathy and ate toward the lynch, I definitely do not but we do both agree on redtea, so here's my thought:

I'd like RedTea, in that case, to offer his choice out of Aronis (who he seems to want to lynch anyway) or someone else. Since Aronis has refused to offer a dance, I'd like RedTea to make the offer, and see what Aronis does with that.

We have (expired on 2019-02-09 17:30:11) guys

VOTE: RedTea

Let's... Get... Dangerous

[AP]

Why are redtea and mcqueen not being wagoned?

I'll answer for myself..

I want to lynch between Koki & Aronis today. These are my strongest SRs and I don't want to "experiment" with anyone outside these two.

Furthermore, mqueen is now lovers with Slaxx, and I don't want to kill Slaxx either. If redtea would kindly offer Koki/Aronis to dance that would be something because then I can reconsider my vote depending on whom he offers it to and whether they accept or refuse the offer.

[Slaxx]

VOTE: RedTea

Maybe we can’t convince Aronis to pair with red but I’m up for vice versa.

[AP]

I think the VC now is:

Aronis – 2 (AP, LabRat01, )
redtea – 2 (Darkwing Duck, Slaxx, )
AP – 1 (Aronis, )

which is GOOD to see where the non-voters will go

[mastina]

Shiiiiiiiiiit snowmageddon took out my internet; that's not getting fixed any time soon. BNL might need to handle the rest of the day phase. Worst case scenario, possibly also night phase. (Daily reminder to send all actions to BOTH BNL and me; failure to do so may lead to your action not being processed correctly.)

[Darkwing Duck]

"blitz game"

which is GOOD to see where the non-voters will go

*interesting game state*

...

...

...

*no one posts for 3 hours*

let's get... dangerous?

[BNL]

<<< Moment is being prodded.
Moment has this long to post, or be replaced: (expired on 2019-02-09 10:57:18). >>>

[mcqueen]

Ok so my other head, let's call him Mallard, is feeling a bit better and gave the thread some time. Our read's don't totally converge. He's at:
{dwd}
{moment, labby, kokichi}
{aronis, eragon}
{eevee, slaxx}
{redtea, ap}
{mcqueen}

Whereas my reads are more like:
Slaxx -- I didn't like his entrance but he's at least playing pro-town regardless of alignment
Moment/AP -- Moment mostly for bothering to vote no lynch; I townread AP's dance request yesterday but I would like to see more from him
Eevee/Eragon/Labrat -- complicated reads/mixed feelings -- if Mallard is right about McQueen, then Eevee/Eragon gets flipped tomorrow morning
McQueen -- feel like he should have done more by now or used his PT, I know real life happens but I've seen McQueen show up before and he isn't here
Kokichi -- Kokichi used to have a meta of doing nothing as town; I appreciate Mallard's tonal read of one of Kokichi's posts, but I need to see more from Kokichi before I really resolve this read any better. I'm fine with him going.
RedTea/Aronis -- don't townread anything here

So we're a bit out of sync right now and sorry if that's not helpful to anyone or it seems like theater.

Basically, Mallard strongly scumreads McQueen, and I null-scumlean McQueen and townread Slaxx. Given that, if we are lynching McQueen, I would rather it be after the lovers mechanic dissolves.

Mallard townleans Aronis's apathy and ate toward the lynch, I definitely do not but we do both agree on redtea, so here's my thought:

I'd like RedTea, in that case, to offer his choice out of Aronis (who he seems to want to lynch anyway) or someone else. Since Aronis has refused to offer a dance, I'd like RedTea to make the offer, and see what Aronis does with that.

We have (expired on 2019-02-09 17:30:11) guys

VOTE: RedTea

Let's... Get... Dangerous

I have used my PT. Why would you use that as a reason to support your vote on me when you’d have no way of knowing I did unless I explicitly said so?