Newbie 1917 - Game Over

[u r a person 2]

eh maybe not.

they might not have talked about it beforehand and it came fast

[TTTT]

I'll wait to hammer
everyone who wasn't here needs to chime in

[u r a person 2]

I will grant you that it doesn't feel like Screaming went to the scum pt to ask for help prior to claiming

[GuiltyLion]

yeah don't hammer yet, we got time, I want some updates from CsBlastoise

chennisden with another quantum simultaneous town/scum post... if noodle flips scum I sorta see that as a town L-1 but if she's a mislynch then that's a real bad looking hop on

And you have no idea who to lynch probably because you are scum looking for an easy mislynch at this point.

chennisden, wouldn't you say you were the easy mislynch? why does scum!screaming noodle indicate a scumread on you yet fail to vote you or continue to pressure you at any point today?

[Thespio]

agreed

kind of want to hear from Thespio prior to hammer, but am also okay with hammer lol

What would you like to know? I have white underwear on, my middle name is William, and I once plugged a wireless mouse into a professors laptop to screw with them.

[chennisden]

Let her claim! And if she's town, let her give her input before she's lynched! (If shes scum said input might also be helpful.)

Saying this for the second time this game, now bolded for emphasis

No one should claim anything until someone gives intent to hammer

im talking to prospective lolhammerers

[u r a person 2]

agreed

kind of want to hear from Thespio prior to hammer, but am also okay with hammer lol

What would you like to know? I have white underwear on, my middle name is William, and I once plugged a wireless mouse into a professors laptop to screw with them.

Well, there is a wagon at L-1 and TTTT has given intent to hammer. Perhaps you could give your read on Screaming noodle, and your thoughts on the wagon?

Pretty funny joke with the professor, lol. We used to flip the top mirror on the overhead projector down so that it wouldn't project and see how long the teacher would take to notice, but I'm showing my age.

[chennisden]

GL, its true I might seem like an easy mislynch but tbh I think I am very fine with Noodle.

Thespio we wanna know your thoughts on hammering, she claimed VT which is either newbscum or town. (the unlikely situation is shes gambiting as scum)

and whoever said that there is at most 1 scum on the wagon, then that means there is at least 1 off

@thespio we once replaced the teachers desktop with a screenshot of it

but we KEPT the files and moved stuff so there were real and fake files

[GuiltyLion]

and whoever said that there is at most 1 scum on the wagon, then that means there is at least 1 off

[u r a person 2]

UNVOTE:

[u r a person 2]

and whoever said that there is at most 1 scum on the wagon, then that means there is at least 1 off

i was going to quote this but you beat me to it

[u r a person 2]

so there is a world where town!chenn is voting screaming but actually confidently believes they are town

and there is the world where chenn is scum

[u r a person 2]

VOTE: chenn

[GuiltyLion]

yeah I kinda just want to power lynch chen now

my bad for barking up the wrong tree with noodle

[Thespio]

I dont have a solid scum read, the way I see it though is that its VERY unlikely that we have both newbscum, with 4 SEs, I would be willing to bet there is atleast 1, so the NC is likely legit.

[u r a person 2]

I usually don't like pulling back off of d1 wagons after a vt claim but in this case I really want to make an exception

[chennisden]

this wagon has a maximum of one scum on it given TTTT,GL,urap town bloc and echo vs chenn not being SvS

this is the quote

[chennisden]

I don't have an aversion to this at all... Have you seen my posts today? Yes, I guess I should be more on the offensive rather that the defensive. It's certainly a better strategy. I guess I just post the first thing that comes to my head and I tend to be on the defense as is my personality.
So I'll point fingers with no basis, and you can do the same and we are suppose to magically come to the same conclusion? Cool.

I feel you're misrepping here, or trying to make my argument look bad

it's not a simple matter of offensive/defensive, you can be active and involved without being too aggressive. I'd categorize it more as engaged/disengaged. Engaged people are proactively commenting on stuff, bringing new thoughts/ideas to the table, demonstrating that they are trying to generate information and using information they've gained to inform their reads. disengaged people are floating in the thread and not making an impact, don't seem to particularly care who gets voted/wagoned, don't seem to care if people disagree/ignore their posts. I would categorize your ISO so far as disengaged and would be surprised if you disagree with me.

also what makes you say "no basis". I've given reasons for nearly all of my votes/reads and put a lot of thought into many of my posts - yes oftentimes it is my interpretation and not grounded in 100% solid empirical fact, but it still constitutes a "basis" for where and why I'm pointing fingers.

also you didn't answer my question about what you think would actually constitute a "good" reason or actual "information" to vote/scumread someone.

i think im at L-1

[u r a person 2]

this wagon has a maximum of one scum on it given TTTT,GL,urap town bloc and echo vs chenn not being SvS

this is the quote

what you said implies that you believe/know SN is town

which does not gel with you voting SN

or scum reading them

or really any town thought process

[chennisden]

i do not believe screaming is town. i strongly believe she is scum

but IN CASE she is town, let her give thoughts before we lynch, mkay

[u r a person 2]

Current votes on Chenn are

TTTT, NMSA, URAP2

L-2

[u r a person 2]

and whoever said that there is at most 1 scum on the wagon, then that means there is at least 1 off

@Thespio

What do you think about this and about Chenn's slot overall?

[Thespio]

right now just suuuuuuuuper newbie, like I said, there is likely an SE scum, so the people I think we should look at is chen's wagon, newbie, that are lurking/overly active. Thats my 2 cents at this point. I do think we shouldnt push someone to l-1 and back off before they post though. so the flip here seems odd.

[u r a person 2]

right now just suuuuuuuuper newbie, like I said, there is likely an SE scum, so the people I think we should look at is chen's wagon, newbie, that are lurking/overly active. Thats my 2 cents at this point. I do think we shouldnt push someone to l-1 and back off before they post though. so the flip here seems odd.

You don't think the comment implies a scum perspective? Why does it imply a newb!town perspective?

[GuiltyLion]

VOTE: chennisden

back to L-1 again