Prey Mafia - Game Over

[skitter30]

persivul's really townie rn imo

[skitter30]

With chara/skitter leading on implo, yes, a bus is possible there. Considering the speed of that wagon it's very possible. Five town coming together that quickly seems unlikely.

i still think that if both implosion and bef are scum that implosion tries to bus bef, rather than the other way around
i think scum on that wagon is mcqueen or maybe varsoon

[skitter30]

eh maybe i should claim now

[Almost50]

Tell me you're conditional Vig. If you're not, just lie to me, please. *Praying*

[skitter30]

Mate.. if I was Roleblocked then you wouldn't have been, and if you haven't been blocked you would get a result on me even if I was RB'd. The fact you didn't get a result on me = YOU were RB'd regardless. What was confusing me was if you were RB'd that doesn't stop MY action from resolving on you. Got it yet?

No, I don't. Why couldn't one of us have been jailed and the other blocked?

you being jailed explains both (a50's role failed to work on you, and you failed to get a result)
no reason to invent new rbs to explain what happened; if a50 had been blocked he would have gotten the 'Loud nightmare typhon' thing from implosion as far as i can tell; that doesn't seem to have happened

[skitter30]

i don't get the rb/jk argument tbh

[skitter30]

let me repeat that for emphasis!

@skitter, @Varsoon, @Elbrin, @BEF

It almost sounds like you know something I don't.. like .. you sound confident implosion didn't block me on N1, for instance??

This was directed @Percy

i don't know what you're trying to say here ....
you didn't claim a mysterious typhon nightmare thing happening to you n1, it's reasonable to assume that implosion didn't block you

[skitter30]

1. I targeted BEF and got not a phantom.

2. I had no problem with a chara/skitter town bloc, but then yesterday A50 somehow wormed himself into it. They decide we're having mass claim, but when it gets to A50's turn, they decide we no longer need to mass claim. I've never seen that happen before. I need to go back and see who first said that the bloc didn't need to claim. I was going to raise this point yesterday, but...

3. That lynch happened unusually fast.

im gonna sound dumb but phantom=scum right?

so your result clears him if you’re telling the truth

is this a townslip? an attempted townslip?

[skitter30]

i don't really think a50 is scum
mcqueen do you like playing scum? do you consider yourself to be good at scum?

[skitter30]

Tell me you're conditional Vig. If you're not, just lie to me, please. *Praying*

nah, although i thought a vig might exist, but it doesn't look like it

i'm an inventor; i had 4 shots to give out
i gave out the cop shot n1 to implosion; obvs this wasn't the best decision

n2 i tried to give a bg shot out, but i was protected (and thus roleblocked) so i don't think it went anywhere, and it never got claimed (that's why i said i could have been roleblocked because it didn't get claimed)

n3 i didn't do anything because chara was supposed to protect/rb me again

and so i have two shots left, not sure if i should claim them; their utility is kinda meh rn i think; but i'm prob dying tonight so i'll give out the more useful one; not sure who to give it to yet

and motivator would have worked on me. namely, say, n1 if i had been motivated i could have given out more than one shot, like: i could have given player A the cop shot and player B the bg shot on the same night

the flavor is that i'm a neuromod installer; the one post of elbirn's that i liked is that he claimed way back when that neuromods don't work on him; i felt like if he were scum, there's no reason to claim that; he could have just soaked up the shots without them doing anything

[skitter30]

oh and the people i was townreading the most day1 were elbirn and chara which is why i was kinda unsure who to give the copshot to since they were both ineligible

[Almost50]

Well, who is scum then? I am lost.

[skitter30]

rn i think elbirn is scum; last scum is in {mcqueen/varsoon} imo

still think you and bef are town, i'm town, and i think persi too; i don't believe that the literally only town-aligned investigative in this game is a cop-shot that i could have (and did) give to scum; i'm pretty sure persi should be town on setup spec

[Almost50]

oh and the people i was townreading the most day1 were elbirn and chara which is why i was kinda unsure who to give the copshot to since they were both ineligible

You could've given it to BEF. I'm not how he could have messed that up, but I have faith in his ability to do so.

@BEF: Just kidding, You're fine. You just... don't pay much attention and you make inexplicable moves, mate. No offense intended.

[skitter30]

oh i guess i might as well say this since it isn't going anywhere i'm pretty sure: one of the remaining shots is a ninja shot, which loosely pointed to scum having watcher/tracker; i would have thought a claim of either to be scum-indicative

[skitter30]

yeah well the reason why i didn't give it to bef even thought i was townreading him is because i didn't particularly trust him to make a good check ('good' being defined as one that i wanted to happen)

[Almost50]

OK, so vote mcqueen with me, and I think it's your duty to talk Percy out of his tunnel on me.

P-edit: Er.. didn't implo have an Watcher ability? I don't remember, so I'll double check

[Almost50]

AT LEAST he couldn't have targeted Chara with it. Maybe Varsoon that night! (SORRY! CAN'T HELP IT! SOMEBODY SHUT ME UP!)

[skitter30]

yes, he did, that's my point

i want elbirn rn

i'm *slightly* paranoid taht i've been pocketed by you tho given how strongly you were vouching for implosion yesterday

[Almost50]

Yeah. Implosion had a Watcher ability.

[skitter30]

ok, now let's talk about how strongly you were vouching for implosion yesterday

[Almost50]

yes, he did, that's my point

i want elbirn rn

i'm *slightly* paranoid taht i've been pocketed by you tho given how strongly you were vouching for implosion yesterday

IK,, so since there's a flipped Rb AND a flipped JK, I will go on a limb and assume there's no other fuckery on the scum side.

Final (and Truthful claim):

P.S. I'm starting to think you might be my wife in disguise and trolling me. You ALWAYS say/do the opposite of what I suggest, I often have a reason that I don't wish to out at that specific time. I had totally missed the RB ability of implosion's so was afraid scum might have still had a RB.


The claim:

I am Morgan Yu - Vice President and Director of Research

It's my 1st day on the job, so I start as a Novice. I thus canNOT use anything on N1.

On N2 and on I had (and still have) 2 shot-Doctor (medkit)
I also had 2-shot Vendor (Huntress Boltcaster)

On N4 and onwards I have the ability to use a 1-shot Conditional Vig (Shotgun). It doesn't do anything (it says I'm out of ammo) UNLESS my target had been previously hit with the FlexiFoam.

So, I want to lynch mcqueen and I will shoot Elbrin tonight.

Or we can go for a No Lynch if you don't trust me, and I will still shoot Elbrin tonight. Obviously ALL my shenanigans was me trying to stay alive UNTIL N4. I suspected Scum might be informed of what the FlexiFoam is, and I wanted everyone to think it wasn't me, and I still didn't want them to know >I< have that Vig shot, so that I don't get RB'd. (Again, I TOTALLY missed the RB shot of implosion)

Now, I will trust you to make the right decision and convince the necessary parties to support your decision.

Thank you.

[Almost50]

ok, now let's talk about how strongly you were vouching for implosion yesterday

I have no explanation. I was so focused on staying alive to shoot Elbrin. That's all.

[Almost50]

Like, they're probably laughing their asses on me in the dead thread (you'll probably see what I though about who the scum team were and why). I though BEF had multiple shots, so deduced Elbrin's role was to prevent BEF from giving him the multitask modifier. I suspected Chara because she was Ascetic, and I suspected Varsoon too because of his Commuter. I thought Percy's role was supposed to precisely catch Elbrin (don't ask. That's what I though back then and I PM's my thought to Xtoxm and requested he shares with the dead/spectators) so one of the lot was Town, and TR Varsoon the most. So, my scum team was Elbrin, mcqueen & Chara.

Omplosion's read looked good enough to me (nased on my own back then) so that's why I had him down as Town. He was going against the flow and was SRing both Chara & Elbrin (Chara must hate me by now).

I even said that we were lynching between Percy & mcqueen, and I was 100% sure on you and BEF being Town, so depending on whom we lynch and how they flip I was either going to shoot the other with FlexiFoam or protect in you/BEF.

This was sometime during D3 btw.

[skitter30]

ah fuck, sorry
implosion had a loud rb thing, but my last shot is an rb shot; if i give it to scum by mistake again they'll have one (but i'll also say who i gave it to so hopefully they can't do that many shenanigans hopefully?)

and i was probably going to give it to you
i can just hold it tho; it doens't have to go anywhere

ok let me process all of this for a bit