Prey Mafia - Game Over

[Xtoxm]

VC 4.3

[2] Almost50:

mcqueen, Persivul

[1] BrightEyedFish:

Elbirn

[1] Elbirn:

skitter30

[1] mcqueen:

Almost50

[2] Not Voting:

Varsoon, BrightEyedFish

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch

The Day 4 deadline is in

: (expired on 2019-02-28 00:00:00)

Spoiler:

From: Jose Costa
To: Ari Liudnarht, Roger Meir
Cc: Johnny Brungen
Subject: Equipment Reminder
Consider this a friendly reminder that you still have department equipment checked out. It was supposed to be returned at the end of your last shift even if you intend to check it out again. You can't just keep it until you are done. I know it's a pain but that's our process and if you don't check that stuff in today there will be fines automatically applied to your next pay cycle.

Ari Liudnarht- Spare Parts (5)
Roger Meir- Gloo Cannon (1)

Jose Costa
Atmosphere Engineer
TranStar
Talos I

[mcqueen]

You think mcqueen is scum? What changed

Did a search and found:

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=78019

This game had a "Vengeful Loved Prankster" role.

Also came across this post by Dino: viewtopic.php?p=10141169#p10141169

The statement clearly suggests nothing wrong in making a goon loved (i.e. scum could have a Loved Modifier).

Regardless of what you/I think, it seems like some mods feel it's OK to make anti-Town roles Loved.

So you've two examples out of how many games where scum had a loved modifier, and choose to base your shifty read on me off of those? Lol ok

[mcqueen]

Two examples meaning, out of all games on this site, or even ones that included some sort of loved modifier, you found just 2 examples to back up your claim, even though 99% of the time town carries the modifier.

[Elbirn]

Tell me you're conditional Vig. If you're not, just lie to me, please. *Praying*

nah, although i thought a vig might exist, but it doesn't look like it

i'm an inventor; i had 4 shots to give out
i gave out the cop shot n1 to implosion; obvs this wasn't the best decision

n2 i tried to give a bg shot out, but i was protected (and thus roleblocked) so i don't think it went anywhere, and it never got claimed (that's why i said i could have been roleblocked because it didn't get claimed)

n3 i didn't do anything because chara was supposed to protect/rb me again

and so i have two shots left, not sure if i should claim them; their utility is kinda meh rn i think; but i'm prob dying tonight so i'll give out the more useful one; not sure who to give it to yet

and motivator would have worked on me. namely, say, n1 if i had been motivated i could have given out more than one shot, like: i could have given player A the cop shot and player B the bg shot on the same night

the flavor is that i'm a neuromod installer; the one post of elbirn's that i liked is that he claimed way back when that neuromods don't work on him; i felt like if he were scum, there's no reason to claim that; he could have just soaked up the shots without them doing anything

oh and the people i was townreading the most day1 were elbirn and chara which is why i was kinda unsure who to give the copshot to since they were both ineligible

You're literally confirmed town thanks to my role, congratulations.

[skitter30]

? why

[Elbirn]

On N4 and onwards I have the ability to use a 1-shot Conditional Vig (Shotgun). It doesn't do anything (it says I'm out of ammo) UNLESS my target had been previously hit with the FlexiFoam.

So, I want to lynch mcqueen and I will shoot Elbrin tonight.

Or we can go for a No Lynch if you don't trust me, and I will still shoot Elbrin tonight. Obviously ALL my shenanigans was me trying to stay alive UNTIL N4. I suspected Scum might be informed of what the FlexiFoam is, and I wanted everyone to think it wasn't me, and I still didn't want them to know >I< have that Vig shot, so that I don't get RB'd. (Again, I TOTALLY missed the RB shot of implosion)

Now, I will trust you to make the right decision and convince the necessary parties to support your decision.

Thank you.

Hi. How likely am I to be able to convince you to consider a worldview in which you don't shoot me? Alternatively, to admit to fakeclaiming once again to get a reaction?

[mcqueen]

I could have targeted an ascetic, commuter, etc

You said you targeted ME, and I'm none of this. Hmmm.. my paranoia is increasing EVERY PASSING MINUTE.

Maybe I was wrong about Elbrin and its YOU & mcqueen? Now I feel more urge to lynch mcqueen. If he flips Green you're on the clear, If he flips red you're more likely his partner.

yuh Percy's clear then

[Elbirn]

You're literally confirmed town thanks to my role, congratulations.

? why

Because my role (can't be modified/role changed/whatever) necessitates the existence of a town role such as yours that gives out abilities or power ups. That's literally it, nothing else.

[Almost50]

OK, but please don't give ME anything. I am already loaded with 5 different nights of action, not including N1, so that's why I though BEF's role

must

have been designed to be used on me. I don't think the game lasts 6 days and nights for me to use up all my shots if I can't use 2 abilities on the same night.

[Almost50]

^@skitty

[Elbirn]

<>Town<>

• Skitty
  
• Almost
  
• Percy
  
• Mcqueen
  
• Varsoon
  
• BEF

<>Scum<>

I tried really hard to make a pretty reads list

[Elbirn]

Unless someone's snowed me good I feel really good about this list even though I probably couldn't quantify why

[skitter30]

Hi. How likely am I to be able to convince you to consider a worldview in which you don't shoot me? Alternatively, to admit to fakeclaiming once again to get a reaction?

uh, it doesn't make sense to at once ask him not to shoot you (hence believing the claim) and also at the same time asking him to admit to fake-claiming

i'm pretty sure it's true this time around, there were a few things niggling at the back of my mind wrt the fruit vendor claim (especially how yesterday he had gone through an incredibly similar thought process as me wrt how the motivator might interact with his claim). i think it's true. i'm pretty sure he's town

i don't think he's aligned with the people he flexifoamed or whatever it's called

[skitter30]

You're literally confirmed town thanks to my role, congratulations.

? why

Because my role (can't be modified/role changed/whatever) necessitates the existence of a town role such as yours that gives out abilities or power ups. That's literally it, nothing else.

why does it necessitate the existance of a *town* role?

[skitter30]

OK, but please don't give ME anything. I am already loaded with 5 different nights of action, not including N1, so that's why I though BEF's role

must

have been designed to be used on me. I don't think the game lasts 6 days and nights for me to use up all my shots if I can't use 2 abilities on the same night.

yeah fair enough, i also do think it could have been used on me (i had four nights of action), and implosion, and i think if it's a real role and he's scum he could have just used it on implosion and fake-claimed vt or something
i think you're town

i'm still thinking through your lynch mcqueen/shoot elbirn thing

[skitter30]

any idea who i should give the rb to? or should i just hold it so that i don't give it to scum

[skitter30]

oh also i thought there might have been a vig because i could give out a bp shot, but i ultimately decided that probably wasn't a thing since there's been no evidence of a vig shot happening

[skitter30]

bleh it just occurred to me that you might be a 3p or something

[Almost50]

any idea who i should give the rb to? or should i just hold it so that i don't give it to scum

Whatever you do, hold the RB tonight. If you must act then give the Ninja to just about anyone. Your Ninjs shot was specifically designed to be use by a visiting TPR to not be seen visiting someone by implosion's Watcher, I believe. We don't have a Watcher, so even if scum have it it doesn't matter to us. Give that to someone tonight or don't give anything if you can holster.

[skitter30]

yeah i'll prob just holster' i'm not compulsive or anything

i kinda want to give out the rb in case there's one scum and we can try to get an rb inno but idk if i'll ive that long and i don't want to give it to scum by mistake; that's probably more problematic than giving the cop-shot to scum

[skitter30]

i'm really nervous about the universe where there's a 3p and we mislynch today
if we mislynch and there's a scum kill we're down to 3:2 tomorrow but if there's a 3p it might be 2:2:1 and maybe we just lose
and if we mislynch and you hit town and there's a scum kill it's 2:2 tomorrow irregardless of whether or not there's a 3p

[Almost50]

yeah i'll prob just holster' i'm not compulsive or anything

i kinda want to give out the rb in case there's one scum and we can try to get an rb inno but idk if i'll ive that long and i don't want to give it to scum by mistake; that's probably more problematic than giving the cop-shot to scum

Not a good idea. Let's addume that hypothetically there's only one scum between ELbrin & mcqueen. This means the other should be between Varsoon & Percy (let's just HYPOTHETICALLY assume that too). Now let's say you give it to BEF (who we both TR by claim, but I'll even make that a hypothetical inno just to get my point).

Regardless of which is blocked, scum will holster and WIFOM it, and we get nothing out of it. (Isn't it beneficial to be a good scum player when you roll town? I can always think of what Scum!me would do in a situation like that).

[skitter30]

ok to summarize:

-> i'm pretty sure persivul and a50 are town (or at least, that a50 is not scum)

-> there's two scum in {elbirn/varsoon/bef/mcqueen}

-> people in this group repeatedly trying to lynch bef makes me think he's probably not scum

so 2/3 scum are in {elbirn/varsoon/mcqueen} imo

[Varsoon]

I think A50's still lying.
VOTE: Almost50

[skitter30]

if he gets hammered here i'll be incredibly pissed
at least unvote for now