you are literally pushing me out of something that is seemling made out of your ass and when asked how you got to that conclusion, straight up denying to cooperate
you realize this straight up makes you look scummy? i want to lynch you so bad. like if i was a vigi you are dead tonight for sure.
even if you are town and even IF you were right ( you are not, but if you were), you can never win a game of mafia with this kind of strategy. you are not allowing other town members to see what you are seeing, no matter how good your read is
mafia is not all about catching scum. it's also about communicating with others and convince rest of the town bloc to understand your scum case on a person so that they will vote with you
what you are doing is -EV for either alignment. maybe you are a jester? idk
literally who cares what i think
its not like you are going to listen to whatever case i want to type up anyways
i pointed what i feel like makes sense, if you see it you see it if you don't you don't. im not going to go out of my way to persuade people when there is a near zero of it ever working.
This kind of behavior is really dumb.
Are you what like 5?
Your scum case on me helps me understand if you are a town who thinks I am genuinely scum or if you are a scum just trying to push me. I definitely do care what you think because this is how I play.
Also, maybe it will help others to see that I am scum once you explain. Literally you lose nothing by explaining, so why are you not willing to let us see what you are seeing?
Only answer I think is plausible is because you are a scum who just made up random weak bullshit to me, but fear not, you may be able to change your mind if you start cooperating
In post 1085, Alchemist21 wrote:
I’d like to know who’s done the most communicating in that PT and if it looks like either have them have seemed to avoid questions asked by the other.
In post 1093, pinturicchio wrote:@TTTT, did you guys talk during the two real life days that happened during N1?
here's everything we've discussed:
during pre-game I talked about the importance of crumbing
I explained that we are not conftown to each other (Nim thought we were)
I claimed my two cards and asked Nim to do the same but he didn't post again pre-game
I wanted to see his two cards before the discarded cards were revealed at game-start
during day1 not much happened
Nim said he thought masons were conftown
he also claimed his two cards
and after the backup mod ego posted he asked if he was a third mason
I explained again that we are not conftown to each other as werewolf mason is a thing (and apparently there are more that I didn't realize)
I explained my crumbs and how to point them out if I get lynched and Nim wants to claim later
I TR Nim for the naivete
which I know can be faked but it feels real
wish he'd claimed his cards pre-game but it's not like he was active during that time
Wait if you told her that masons weren't conftown to each other before the game started, then why did I have to explain that very same concept to her during D1???
Ok now that TTTT has claimed and posted some more, I feel a little better about posting this.
I think we should be paying closer attention to the lynch wagon from yesterday. Mcqueen was basically speedlynched 4 days into D1, which strongly indicates multiple scum on the wagon.
Out of everyone on the mcqueen wagon, I'm townreading brass and Gamma. And DT is probably town as well because I'm okay with believing Vedith's inno for now. So that leaves {Allo, TGP, Elsa, TTTT}.
I think scum were more likely to be sitting back yesterday and letting town do most of the work to drive the mcqueen mislynch. This is mostly consistent with who I'm townreading on the lynch wagon and the flips that we have (e.g. Alchemist was town and did more to interact with mcqueen, whereas NMSA basically put his vote on mcqueen and made no effort to push him after that).
Allo's 536 was a bad vote, because his post felt like trying to pocket DT. His interactions with mcqueen were also pretty weak imo.
Spoiler:
In post 536, Allomancer wrote:mcqueen is acting very scummy, trying to shade DT who is easily one of the towniest here. VOTE: mcqueen
In post 517, mcqueen wrote:No, that assumption is not correct. Sorry, I did make it sound that way, didn't I? Let me rephrase: Lurking is not AI for me.
i dont care if you're doing alignment indicative or alignment non indicative things.
play or eat the fucking rope.
didn’t you site flake not too long ago?
and that has something to do with you being scum here? ok lol
nah it has something to do with you telling me to play when the replacement request thread is filled with your name
two completely different scenarios. You didn't flake, you're still active on site, which makes this lurking, not flaking.
I had mafia Godfather, town Godfather and Miller. I looked for town Godfather on the wiki and it redirected to Vig so I wanted to pick that, but in here it was just a VT, so I picked the Miller to claim in my first post and be townread for it
what the hell is a town godfather? that's the same as a Miller. So, you're lying about one of your cards.
I had mafia Godfather, town Godfather and Miller. I looked for town Godfather on the wiki and it redirected to Vig so I wanted to pick that, but in here it was just a VT, so I picked the Miller to claim in my first post and be townread for it
what the hell is a town godfather? that's the same as a Miller. So, you're lying about one of your cards.
read the fking setup dude
tf do u mean read. how is a town godfather different from a miller? so why are there two cards named differently that do the exact same thing
TGP's 635 was pretty bad too. I didn't like how he added his vote on mcqueen but disappeared after that and never pushed him. It felt like someone trying to jump onto a growing wagon but not trying to make waves at the same time.
I had mafia Godfather, town Godfather and Miller. I looked for town Godfather on the wiki and it redirected to Vig so I wanted to pick that, but in here it was just a VT, so I picked the Miller to claim in my first post and be townread for it
Are you kidding me?
Does anyone else realize the irony of someone CHOOSING to have miller (negative utility, doesn't confirm whatsoever) over Named Townie?
I can't decide if this is scummy or just very poor town play.
I'm also of two minds when trying to figure out notmyspam. On one hand, it's likely that he discarded IC so that he could be scum. On the other, he could have had a more powerful town role. But IC is pretty powerful, and I don't see many that are more powerful, so I'm going to keep my vote on notmyspam.
Gamma reads town to me. I'm not sure what to make of the wait until day 3 to lynch me comment, but it comes across as scummy, so i'd slight leantown there.
why is IC powerful? yeah, he's conftown, but idk i think you're hyping it up too much. it's not a fun role to have imo, and that's the point of this game (choice)
I had mafia Godfather, town Godfather and Miller. I looked for town Godfather on the wiki and it redirected to Vig so I wanted to pick that, but in here it was just a VT, so I picked the Miller to claim in my first post and be townread for it
what the hell is a town godfather? that's the same as a Miller. So, you're lying about one of your cards.
read the fking setup dude
tf do u mean read. how is a town godfather different from a miller? so why are there two cards named differently that do the exact same thing
Town godfather has two parts.
Alignment: Town
Role: Godfather. Independent of alignment. Returns
favorable
result to investigation
Town miller has two parts.
Alignment: Town
Role: Miller. Returns
unfavorable
result to investigation.
Got it?
In post 635, TheGoldenParadox wrote:For 589, IC is powerful because it's fully unlynchable as opposed to 1-shot unlynchable.
This is obvious.
The fact that you fail to realize this, coupled with every other scummy thing you've done this game that has been outlined, makes me want to VOTE: mcqueen
Elsa's 664 also did not have any follow up and was also kind of OMGUS-y. I could actually go here today because of this, but I'm also fine with night actions resolving this slot.
Might as well put you at L-2 now then, if your gonna do stuff like that.
Now in a game with probably Multiball, being at L-1 is a death sentence, wouldn't you agree? So I guess that means either claim or get good reads. I'm fine with either option.
TTTT's 819 is relatively townier. I actually don't think his hammer was that bad, and I kind of followed his logic in scumreading mcqueen for picking nurse over tracker. Rereading his posts leading up to the hammer vote, I don't think his hammer can really be characterized as a quickhammer because he gave intent, and several people posted between intent and the vote.
Spoiler:
In post 691, TTTT wrote:bad claim
I don't believe you chose town nurse over town tracker
In post 703, mcqueen wrote:K. I’m not a huge fan of tracker. I’d prefer to have a protective role later in the game. Ur gonna lynch me over having a preference
you'd prefer to maybe have a protective role later in the game if you even make it to later in the game
over being a tracker
m'kay
In post 819, TTTT wrote:so I kinda wanted to hear back from Oka first
about why he wanted to hammer but I have to drive home soon and want to spend some time in twilight... VOTE: mcqueen
The tl;dr is that I would really like to vote in {Allo, TGP} today.
