Anime U-Pick: King Size [SEASON FINALE...?]

[Joan of Arc]

Working with town, he says. If 'sticking to his guns while not listening to others' is called 'working with town' these days, then I am a Russian noble.

[Joan of Arc]

For once I agree with Wisdom. No getting out of our deal.

[Joan of Arc]

im fighting with someone and you agree with me?

are you sure youre feeling well?

Yes, I agree with you. If you want that lynch so bad, then at least stick to it and accept the consequences rather than changing votes in order to avoid them.

[Joan of Arc]

For once I agree with Wisdom. No getting out of our deal.

what deal

The deal that both PB and A50 agreed to: that if mastina flips town, they would both join her down in Davy Jones, of course.

[Joan of Arc]

That said, back to ignoring/mocking you.

[Joan of Arc]

For once I agree with Wisdom. No getting out of our deal.

what deal

The deal that both PB and A50 agreed to: that if mastina flips town, they would both join her down in Davy Jones, of course.

I didn't agree with you. I started ignoring you when you started playing your little dictator game.

Really now? Cos post 509 and post 510 in Channel PT clearly show that you agreed to die if she flips town.....

[Joan of Arc]

That's because I gave up on talking some sense into you. You know how it goes. If you can't convince 'em, then at least punish 'em for their mistakes.

[Joan of Arc]

As for me being gullible, tell it to someone else. I have at least two games that prove otherwise.

[Joan of Arc]

Like what do I care if her 3rd Party win con was voided in SU2? What does that have to do with this game here? And why should I have cared?

Because we won with town, and therefore weren't a threat.

[Joan of Arc]

Why do you think she's using a new account

I don't even know if that's a new account. I knew she was Yume/Jeanne even before she signed up to this game, and I was surprised so many people didn't. But since it looked like no one did I decided to keep my mouth shut just in case she wanted it to be anonymous anyway.

But let's assume she is trying to change the way she plays. Doesn't that -by definition- mean she doesn't use previous games for reference? She wants to sheep mastina because in that previous game mastina was right, but that isn't the issue.. the issue is that she is still

sheeping

, which is not a great change from her previous play if you ask me. The one and only major difference is she is trying to post and didn't flake, and

I applaud that

. I can accept her playing this way for now, but I can't understand "No. Get back on mastina then eat rope if she flips town" when she had already said she was alright with Elena's lynch and has been arguing for mastina being town for the whole week.

Do you see my problem now? Any given player (not Joan.. just pick someone new.. someone who had just joined the site) I would expect to be happy when people finally yield and decide to leave their strong TR alone and pursue someone else's lynch,

especially

when they're

alright

with the new lynch candidate being lynched. Do you think that new player would go "No. We lynch my TR and then lynch you when they flip town"??

Yes, if said player wants to discourage future mistakes of this nature the only way they know how.

[Joan of Arc]

And really, I interpreted your whole read change as an attempt to absolve yourself of responsibility if mastina were to flip green. Hence my change of mind.

[Joan of Arc]

Also, you missed this

As for me being gullible, tell it to someone else. I have at least two games that prove otherwise.

[Joan of Arc]

Yes, if said player wants to discourage future mistakes of this nature the only way they know how.

Well, I want to discourage future mistakes based on that game where you were scum with Ali & Chara (Wis probably can remind me if the tile).

So, I'm going to lynch you on D1 in every game we play so as to discourage future mistakes of ignoring you on D1 when you've been clearly scum (And with Ali in particular. If you don't remember go back and ISO me in that game as I did say Ali defence of you was indicative of you being scum with them).

I thought you said we wouldn't be bringing up past games, so why are you allowed to do so while forbidding me to use SU2 as a reference in the same breath?

And if we are bringing up past games, how about these?
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=74522
viewtopic.php?f=54&t=72865

I've proven myself to be damn competent and non-gullible in both, no matter what you or anyone else says about it. I am gullible? Hardly.

[Joan of Arc]

Also, you missed this

As for me being gullible, tell it to someone else. I have at least two games that prove otherwise.

2 games out of how many? but you know what? let's just wait and see how this game ends. Once we see all flips we can decide on that for sure.

Yeah, let's.

[Joan of Arc]

viewtopic.php?f=56&t=68256&user_select% ... &start=600

If you want specific posts, copy-paste that link and open it.

[Joan of Arc]

I told Joan that mastina's going to push me still, and then try to lynch Gamma when she can't lynch me. OMG!

That doesn't automatically make you town. :/

[Joan of Arc]

I mean, you can't have your cake and eat it too. Mastina is scum for pushing her scumread despite others' words, yet N x M, who is essentially doing the same, is town? Get real.

*yawn*

[Joan of Arc]

Well, this is over the line. If Almos50 and PB are coming out, then I am doing the same. PB is acting like a hoser, calling me incompetent and stuff despite the evidence to the contrary, and I've had it.

[Joan of Arc]

I mean, what's there to report? YOU ARE INCOMPETENT! That's in NO WAY a personal insult/attack!

The rules clearly say that insulting a player personally is not okay.

For example, saying that 'X's play sucks' is okay. Saying 'X sucks/X is incompetent' is not.

There is a difference between the two.

[Joan of Arc]

He said you can't read. YES, he's right. You keep going on an on repeating the same things (and even re-quoting them) when he has already responded to them.

He says he doesn't care about you 2 previous games and will judge you by your play here as a measure of your competency, and you insist that he reads them and call you competent. I can provide 20 games where you were incompetent and 40 others were you were useless and/or replaced out. So? I mean maybe (MAYBE) you did well in these two games, but it was clearly an exception to the rule.

Now stop distracting us. We want to play this game.

Oh, and PB NEVER brought up you replacing out. He never asked you to nor has he implied it. YOU brought it up and then decided to respond to yourself.

Oh, so you conveniently you left out the post where he said 'You suck' complete with a smiley face, did ya?

[Joan of Arc]

Also, @Almost50 If I were to call you incompetent right now, you would be offended, so wth am I not allowed to feel that way myself?!

[Joan of Arc]

-INCOMING MESSAGE-
ALL YE WHO DECIDE TO ENTER HERE WILL HAVE A SWELL TIME!!!!

[Joan of Arc]

-INCOMING MESSAGE-
ALL YE WHO DECIDE TO ENTER HERE WILL HAVE A SWELL TIME!!!!

[Joan of Arc]

-INCOMING MESSAGE-
ALL YE WHO DECIDE TO ENTER HERE WILL HAVE A SWELL TIME!!!!

This is my first game I've ever played with you. My first experience with you is you explained

to me

how I hate you and don't care about your opinion and that because other people have been mean and disrespectful to you that you can be mean to me, while AT THE SAME TIME saying "If you don't want it done to you, don't do it to someone else."

I don't understand why

anyone

would want to play with you again.

-Yuuri

Seriously, does no one understand the difference between you in singular and you in plural? Because most of the time I've said 'you', I meant in plural, and so I never did single anyone out.

[Joan of Arc]

Besides, wasn't talking to you. I was inviting those who I actually like to play with.

[Joan of Arc]

She also said you were scum, in the beginning but then reversed her read on you when nobody bought it.

Yeah no.
I don't back off scumreads as scum when nobody buys them--quite the opposite, that's when I double down on them.
scumastina's not afraid to push players she alone scumreads; quite the opposite, it's her preference.

I changed my read on Reasonably Psychotic because the circumstances changed. Because I had reason to believe Cerb was town that I didn't hold before then.

I believe they were talking about your read reversal on me, not RP.

[Joan of Arc]

I'm a damn fucking good scum player, a fact you are all well too aware of.

Not when I have identified you as scum on D1 (and in the first half of the day mind you) in TM 2018. You're less than average as BOTH alignments.

Oh, so your experience with her as a player counts for something, yet my own doesn't count for anything? I call shenanigans.

[Joan of Arc]

Almost50 in a nutshell

[Joan of Arc]

Anyways, so I guess people aren't going to be doing the thing I want them to.

And now we dont have time for it anymore.

You all kind of suck.

-Yukiteru

You can have mine if you want.

[Joan of Arc]

Anyways, so I guess people aren't going to be doing the thing I want them to.

And now we dont have time for it anymore.

You all kind of suck.

-Yukiteru

You can have mine if you want.

<3

Either you were lying earlier or you're Phosphophyllite.

-Yukiteru

Does my activated ability look like I was lyin'?

[Joan of Arc]

Anyways, so I guess people aren't going to be doing the thing I want them to.

And now we dont have time for it anymore.

You all kind of suck.

-Yukiteru

You can have mine if you want.

<3

Either you were lying earlier or you're Phosphophyllite.

-Yukiteru

Does my activated ability look like I was lyin'?

1) I should have said RPing, not lying, because that would be accurate when describing your connection with these characters.
2) I haven't actually seen this show!! So I have no idea. Sorry.

-Yukiteru

[Joan of Arc]

I'm a pretty okay scum planner. That's all.

You would be among the best, yes; I consider you my equal in that department.

Is probably why I can counter you so well when you're scum and I'm town.

Mind you, is also the source of many a false positives but that's a given, one which we're both aware of, so.

Okay, so I am curious. What do you think of this?

[Joan of Arc]

Also, I believe I am pretty decent as scum too. I'm not as strong in this regard as some of the powerhouses here, but I can hold my own

as long as jjh isn't in the game - if he is, then my fate is sealed from the start

[Joan of Arc]

All right, let's play a quiz.

Question no. 1: A cute alien who is friendly and loves helping people. Who does this describe the best?
A: Padparadscha
B: Bill Cipher
C: Wander
D: Invader Zim

You have eleven hours to answer. Tick tock.

[Joan of Arc]

OK.. so before RP hammers:

1- Once my ongoing games are over I am officially retiring this account.
2- Anyone

Town

on my wagon, please refrain from playing with me (AP) in the future. Do not sign up to games I signed up to first and do not replace into games I'm in. I am specifically addressing mastina and Dunn. If you are Town here do NOT play with me ever again. Elena, Gamma and Torque too, but I feel less aggravated towards them. Elena because I know she is scum, Gamma because he maybe scum and he's brainless anyway, and Torque because I don't have that much of a history with him. It doesn't mean I

want

to play with any of you in the future, but I am not calling you names over this.

If you have a problem with me, it's on you to avoid me, I'm going to join any games I'm interested in, I'm not upholding this

Feel free to do so, and I'll feel free to report you for stalking. Simple. Have a good say.

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is what we call 'hypocritical behavior'.......

[Joan of Arc]

If I had to define someone having an hypocritical behavior, it would absolutely, without a doubt, 100% all the time you, Joan.

Say what you want, but admonishing someone for wanting to report another because they were offended by said person, and then turning around and doing the same is hypocritical, no matter what way you slice it.

[Joan of Arc]

Plus, I and Wusdom had mutual agreement not to join one another's games - one which he himself initiated at that - and he violated it. Should I have reported him for stalking too? Because I see no reason why Almost is allowed to do that and I am not.

[Joan of Arc]

Oh, and by the way, it's also okay for me to call every single one of you incompetent, and none of you will be offended by that in the slightest, right?

[Joan of Arc]

All right, let's play a quiz.

Question no. 1: A cute alien who is friendly and loves helping people. Who does this describe the best?
A: Padparadscha
B: Bill Cipher
C: Wander
D: Invader Zim

You have eleven hours to answer. Tick tock.

None of the above. It's John Malkovich.

[Joan of Arc]

I was, and still am, Phosphophyllite from Houseki no Kuni.

[Joan of Arc]

Also, those scumreading mastina, I am willing to listen to ya. And your reasons better be good

[Joan of Arc]

VOTE: mastina

Oh look, I have a vote.

VOTE: Near x Mello

For trying to deny us conftown.

[Joan of Arc]

WHY THE HELL ARTE YOU TRYING TO DENY US CONFTOWN IF YOU'RE TOWN?!

[Joan of Arc]

AND DON'T YOU DARE IGNORE ME.

VOTE ELENA IN YOUR NEXT POST OR YOU'RE SCUM.

[Joan of Arc]

They scumread Elena, yet they are not voting her. Reason? Because voting her would produce a conftown, and they cannot let that happen.

[Joan of Arc]

They scumread Elena, yet they are not voting her. Reason? Because voting her would produce a conftown, and they cannot let that happen.

^for emphasis

[Joan of Arc]

And yeah, I will kerep repeating this until someone gets it.

[Joan of Arc]

I am the arbitrator of common sense, hell yeah.

[Joan of Arc]

Difficult patterns buy not me.

[Joan of Arc]

Like, I expect their hydra to ignore me, but not everyone else. :/

[Joan of Arc]

They scumread Elena, yet they are not voting her. Reason? Because voting her would produce a conftown, and they cannot let that happen.

[Joan of Arc]

They scumread Elena, yet they are not voting her. Reason? Because voting her would produce a conftown, and they cannot let that happen.

Oh I get what you mean

But lets say the scenario is Near x Mello scum, Elena town, Pink Ball town, Near x Mello mislynches Elena then kills Pink Ball. Is that really that awful for him

So you think his plan is to vote mastina, and then switch to Elena at opportune time?

Because, taking his stubbornness into account, I don't think so.

[Joan of Arc]

Joan youre not making any sense

How is elena conftown if i vote her?

Didn't you read? If we lynch Elena and she is town, then her result on PB is confirmed, and PB becomes conftown. If she is scum, then we've lynched scum.

There is literally no downside to lynching her now, so wth are you voting mastina for?

[Joan of Arc]

I dont care about her result on pb as pb is beyond obvtown

We lynch thr most obvious and most dangerous scum, ie.mastina

And that's why you're scum. No sane town would let go of a chance to have a conftown no matter the reasoning.

[Joan of Arc]

You realize that nobody listens to you, right? Otherwise mastina would be lynched by now. :c

VOTE: Elena

But whatever, I'm done reasoning with any of you. Go ahead and lose the game for all I care. Not that it would convince you your approach is wrong anyway.

[Joan of Arc]

5 to lynch today. Even with stupidity from joan and torque there is zero excuse for mastina to survive today. Me, almost, Chito, Pink ball, and Cerb should be enough.

And none of them would listen to you, except maybe Almost and PB, because they're so enamored with you they will do whatever you say, even if it ends in our loss.

[Joan of Arc]

And even Almost50 and PB agreed to vote Elena earlier.

So, @everyone except N x M, join me, let's lynch Elena and get a conftown for our troubles.

[Joan of Arc]

YOU PEOPLE ARE CRAZY. WHY U NO WANT CONFTOWN?!

*BRAIN-DEAD*

[Joan of Arc]

Because lynching scum is more important than knowing a person who is already obvtown via play is conftown

Having conftown helps narrow down the poe pool, though.

And why are you so hellbent on lynching mastina? You scumread Elena too, so wth is voting for one of your scumreads that much of a problem, eh?

[Joan of Arc]

And if you're gonna force the town to do as you say, then maybe you shouldn't play at all. Mafia is a game of working together. What you're doing isn't working together with town, what you are doing is lining to your own reads and growling at anyone who disagrees with you, calling them stupid and stuff, while refusing to listen to them whenever they tell you you could be wrong.

[Joan of Arc]

What? It is true. For instance, you ignored me when I told you you could be wrong, and from what I could recall, I am not the only one you've ignored. Several others told you mastina could be town, and you flat-out ignored them without even explaining to them why their reasoning is wrong.

Hell, I even gave you a chance to tell everyone your reasoning as to why mastina is scum, and you didn't.

[Joan of Arc]

So give me one good reason why should we squander a chance to get a conftown out of this that doesn't translate to 'because my word is law' or something similar.

[Joan of Arc]

YOU PEOPLE ARE CRAZY. WHY U NO WANT CONFTOWN?!

*BRAIN-DEAD*

We should have had all the people target C&Y if we were trying to mechanically get conftown, that way we sacrifice one town for numerous conftown. Hell, it would have been even better because if we're confident C&Y is town, then we don't even need to lynch them, and scum can't kill them without losing mislynch options.

Anyways...I think you should stop pushing this so much right now. There's way more information that needs to be gained from today, people need to claim things etc, before ending the day is even close to a good choice.

speaking of which:

PB, flavor at game start?

I was talking about Elena's check. :/

[Joan of Arc]

She did.

[Joan of Arc]

sigh
everytime i break my promise not to respond to you youre quick to make me regret it

yet i dont learn

And maybe the lesson you need to learn is not that you need to ignore me, but rather to be more flexible and actually listen to people rather than tunneling. Because guess what, you're not infallible, nor are you God of scumhunting, like you seem to believe. You're bound to be wrong more often than not.

[Joan of Arc]

Several people have called me out for believing mastina to be a 'scumhunting God', including yourself. But the thing is, that's exactly what you perceive yourself as.

But I guess you thinking that about yourself is okay. It's only not okay when same quality is applied to people that aren't you.

[Joan of Arc]

Several people have called me out for believing mastina to be a 'scumhunting God', including yourself. But the thing is, that's exactly what you perceive yourself as.

But I guess you thinking that about yourself is okay. It's only not okay when same quality is applied to people that aren't you.

Joan.

Homie.

Deep breaths. I would really like if you would just stop engaging with NxM. There are other people to talk to, and scum to find.

I don't feel like talking to the rest of you either. Not when you are trying to prevent us from getting a conftown.

[Joan of Arc]

Several people have called me out for believing mastina to be a 'scumhunting God', including yourself. But the thing is, that's exactly what you perceive yourself as.

But I guess you thinking that about yourself is okay. It's only not okay when same quality is applied to people that aren't you.

Joan.

Homie.

Deep breaths. I would really like if you would just stop engaging with NxM. There are other people to talk to, and scum to find.

I don't feel like talking to the rest of you either. Not when you are trying to prevent us from getting a conftown.

So let's talk about how this plays out then.

Lynch Elena, and she is town and flips as described.

There are 8 alive, one of whom is conftown.

Scum shoot that one tonight

...

???????????

Unless you have strong cause to believe Elena is scum(which is something you have not outlined), then getting a conftown from her lynch should not be the GOAL. It should be a positive outcome in the event that you're wrong.

If you're CERTAIN we're going to be getting a conftown out of this, then we have two - Elena, and the person she targeted, because you don't need to see her flip if your degree of certainty is that high.

Maybe it shouldn't be the goal, but it shouldn't be actively hampered either.

[Joan of Arc]

And let me ask you a question of my own: why are all of you so ready to blindly listen to someone who doesn't give a rat's ass about your opinion and refuses to give any of you a courtesy of listening to you?

p-edit: Ah, now we get there. Are you 100 % certain that mastina's lynch won't be a mislynch?

[Joan of Arc]

And let me ask you a question of my own: why are all of you so ready to blindly listen to someone who doesn't give a rat's ass about your opinion and refuses to give any of you a courtesy of listening to you?

p-edit: Ah, now we get there. Are you 100 % certain that mastina's lynch won't be a mislynch?

Nope, not at all.

It's less likely to be a mislynch than most other peoples, but it's definitely not 100% certain.

With regards to listening to someone elses opinion: I've ignored NxM all game long. Lynching mastina was actually the suggestion of my other head, who hasn't even read the game in depth.

So, NxM has absolutely no bearing on our conversation or my position.

Please stop trying to make everything about them, when NOTHING is about them.

You should still answer my question.

So pretend that mastina is town for a second. Why should mislynching her be okay if mislynching Elena is not?

And no, I don't think Elena is scum.

[Joan of Arc]

My reads are a little messy but I have A50, NxM, Cerb+Amz, C&Y and Torque as townier than Elena, mastina and Joan. No order in particular, just want to see mastina flip scum so Joan has to actually play the game

Gee, I wonder what you and N x M slot would do if she were to flip town. Given that you're so certain she won't, you won't have any contingency plans in case she does.

[Joan of Arc]

You won't have any contingency plans in case she does.

[Joan of Arc]

Flip town, that is.

[Joan of Arc]

And of course you'd ignore the second part of my statement. :/

[Joan of Arc]

90 %.

[Joan of Arc]

90 %.

Would you agree being lynched today and we never lynch mastina if you flip town?

I dunno, would you agree to be lynched if mastina flipped town?

[Joan of Arc]

If you haven't noticed, I am trying to prevent a mislynch of any kind, and I know myself to be town, so there.

[Joan of Arc]

If you haven't noticed, I am trying to prevent a mislynch of any kind, and I know myself to be town, so there.

I've answered. Just because you didn't see it, doesn't mean it's not there.

[Joan of Arc]

The one's on PenguinPower's avi. It's the only place I recognize them since I haven't seen the anime

...

How fucking hard is it to open up your pm's, look at your role, and just type out the name of your character?

@Joan: You just said you don't believe Elena is scum. Yet you're pushing for her lynch. How is that "trying to prevent a mislynch of any kind"?

And how is you pushing for mastina's lynch any better? Assume mastina is town: do you believe her alignment would automatically change just because you all scumread her?

[Joan of Arc]

No. I am not okay with being mislynched. Or with mastina potentially being mislynched.

But I've asked multiple times for those who scumread her to explain why, and all we've got is crickets. So you can bet I will fight my bottom dollar to stop you from fucking this up, unless every single one of you explains why exactly do you scumread her in public.

[Joan of Arc]

The one's on PenguinPower's avi. It's the only place I recognize them since I haven't seen the anime

...

How fucking hard is it to open up your pm's, look at your role, and just type out the name of your character?

@Joan: You just said you don't believe Elena is scum. Yet you're pushing for her lynch. How is that "trying to prevent a mislynch of any kind"?

And how is you pushing for mastina's lynch any better? Assume mastina is town: do you believe her alignment would automatically change just because you all scumread her?

??

Because I'm not the one claiming to be being a hypocrite by pushing for something they believe will be a mislynch while claiming to be trying to prevent a mislynch of any kind? I'm just trying to solve the game, and believe a mastina lynch makes town more likely to win than not.

@PB: I had no idea what that anime was, or what those characters were.

Unless you are 100% sure that mastina is scum, there is a possibility that you're pushing a mislynch.

[Joan of Arc]

No. I am not okay with being mislynched. Or with mastina potentially being mislynched.

But I've asked multiple times for those who scumread her to explain why, and all we've got is crickets. So you can bet I will fight my bottom dollar to stop you from fucking this up, unless every single one of you explains why exactly do you scumread her in public.

I asked a yes or no question, the rest I don't care.

By the way, you proposing lynching Elena for conftowning me but not agreeing with being lynched to conftown mastina sums up how shitty you've been playing

So what's so wrong with wanting to produce conftown? And as a matter of fact, you not wanting to be conftown is weird.

[Joan of Arc]

No. I am not okay with being mislynched. Or with mastina potentially being mislynched.

But I've asked multiple times for those who scumread her to explain why, and all we've got is crickets. So you can bet I will fight my bottom dollar to stop you from fucking this up, unless every single one of you explains why exactly do you scumread her in public.

I really want to just say "No you" to this, because as far as I can tell you've vehemently refused to give any reasons for *any* of your reads, town or scum.

So, yeah.

I think I'll just do that.

No, you.

And why are you singling me out for this?

N x M slot must have given a mountain of evidence and reasoning for their reads, then, I guess.....

And calling me a hypocrite, but not him is kinda a dick move.

[Joan of Arc]

No. I am not okay with being mislynched. Or with mastina potentially being mislynched.

But I've asked multiple times for those who scumread her to explain why, and all we've got is crickets. So you can bet I will fight my bottom dollar to stop you from fucking this up, unless every single one of you explains why exactly do you scumread her in public.

I really want to just say "No you" to this, because as far as I can tell you've vehemently refused to give any reasons for *any* of your reads, town or scum.

So, yeah.

I think I'll just do that.

No, you.

And why are you singling me out for this?

N x M slot must have given a mountain of evidence and reasoning for their reads, then, I guess.....

And calling me a hypocrite, but not him is kinda a dick move.

Again, he never stated that he was doing everything to prevent a mislynch while pushing someone who he publicly proclaimed he did not believe to be scum.

That's the hypocritical thing. Not the lack of reason for beliefs, but acting in a fashion contrary to your expressed goals and beliefs.

So you're saying he isn't a hypocrite at all?

[Joan of Arc]

> Says 'I am ignoring the fuck out of him'
> quotes him in the very next post

[Joan of Arc]

Joan of Arc - phos
mastina - Nozomi Toujou fromBokura no Live Kimi to no Life
Almost50 - KIRITO (Sword Art Online
Torque - Nadeshiko Kagamihara - Yuru Camp
Near x Mello -Steins gate dudes
Pink Ball - Penguins #1, #2 & #3 from Mawaru Penguindrum
Chito and Yuuri -Chito & Yuuri
Elena Fisher - hasn't claimed

Is this correct so far?

@Joan: *shrug* I read the things they say, but I certainly don't put much weight on them, because it's a bunch of repeating the same thing over and over again with very little additional information gained at any point, combined with a refusal to explain reads.

No, you don't get to call me a hypocrite and then shrug it off when it's proven you're one.

[Joan of Arc]

just want to see mastina flip scum so Joan has to actually play the game

Yeah well newsflash.

I'm fucking flipping town.

Because I am fucking town.

So guess what you get after my flip?

You get to fucking deal with a vidicative Joan.
Who tells you "I TOLD YOU SO".
Over.

And over.

And fucking over again.

Because she did fucking tell you so.
And she was absolutely fucking right to tell you so.
And you'll be able to do NOTHING about it.

Because she was. absolutely. RIGHT.
Nothing you can say then will ever change that.

Have fun, jackass.

^

[Joan of Arc]

Joan of Arc - phos
mastina - Nozomi Toujou fromBokura no Live Kimi to no Life
Almost50 - KIRITO (Sword Art Online
Torque - Nadeshiko Kagamihara - Yuru Camp
Near x Mello -Steins gate dudes
Pink Ball - Penguins #1, #2 & #3 from Mawaru Penguindrum
Chito and Yuuri -Chito & Yuuri
Elena Fisher - hasn't claimed

Is this correct so far?

@Joan: *shrug* I read the things they say, but I certainly don't put much weight on them, because it's a bunch of repeating the same thing over and over again with very little additional information gained at any point, combined with a refusal to explain reads.

No, you don't get to call me a hypocrite and then shrug it off when it's proven you're one.

I can be a hypocrite too? I mean, who I am has no bearing on whether or not the descriptor I'm ascribing to you is accurate.

Well, I no longer like you, then.

[Joan of Arc]

Joan of Arc - phos
mastina - Nozomi Toujou fromBokura no Live Kimi to no Life
Almost50 - KIRITO (Sword Art Online
Torque - Nadeshiko Kagamihara - Yuru Camp
Near x Mello -Steins gate dudes
Pink Ball - Penguins #1, #2 & #3 from Mawaru Penguindrum
Chito and Yuuri -Chito & Yuuri
Elena Fisher - hasn't claimed

Is this correct so far?

@Joan: *shrug* I read the things they say, but I certainly don't put much weight on them, because it's a bunch of repeating the same thing over and over again with very little additional information gained at any point, combined with a refusal to explain reads.

No, you don't get to call me a hypocrite and then shrug it off when it's proven you're one.

I can be a hypocrite too? I mean, who I am has no bearing on whether or not the descriptor I'm ascribing to you is accurate.

Well, I no longer like you, then.

That is unfortunate, but I still like you. <3

Since when is calling me a hypocrite something that someone who likes me does?

[Joan of Arc]

just want to see mastina flip scum so Joan has to actually play the game

Yeah well newsflash.

I'm fucking flipping town.

Because I am fucking town.

So guess what you get after my flip?

You get to fucking deal with a vidicative Joan.
Who tells you "I TOLD YOU SO".
Over.

And over.

And fucking over again.

Because she did fucking tell you so.
And she was absolutely fucking right to tell you so.
And you'll be able to do NOTHING about it.

Because she was. absolutely. RIGHT.
Nothing you can say then will ever change that.

Have fun, jackass.

Why calling me names?

I dunno, why are you calling me names?

[Joan of Arc]

All right. That's enough. I could take not giving any value to me, because I can be dumb at times. But I won't tolerate you discrediting one of the best players I've encountered.

I respect mastina's skills just as much as she respects mine, and maybe even more, cos I don't know the exact tier of her respect towards me.

[Joan of Arc]

if you respect mastina's skills you should realize shes scum @joan

As someone who read ever post she made, and someone who knows her well, I am 90%sure she is town.

Even if I threw aside my experience with her, some of the points she raises as the reason why she is town are legit and reasonable, and no amount of you repeating 'she is scum' over and over is gonna convince me.

If you really want to convince me, then pull out every single argument she has made for being town and explain why they are wrong. Nothing short of that will convince me.

[Joan of Arc]

if you respect mastina's skills you should realize shes scum @joan

As someone who read ever post she made, and someone who knows her well, I am 90%sure she is town.

Even if I threw aside my experience with her, some of the points she raises as the reason why she is town are legit and reasonable, and no amount of you repeating 'she is scum' over and over is gonna convince me.

If you really want to convince me, then pull out every single argument she has made for being town and explain why they are wrong. Nothing short of that will convince me.

@N x M I am waiting.....

[Joan of Arc]

@joan There is no point worth answering to that i havent disproved so youre either ignoring me or believing in things like "i be conftown tomorrow"

No, you haven't disproved a single one. All you've been doing is repeating 'mastina is scum' more often that not.

And either way, you can't convince me by disproving only thr points you think are worth answering. If you want to convince me, you need to disprove every. single. one. of. them.

No exceptions.

[Joan of Arc]

Like, let me prove it by reading your iso.

[Joan of Arc]

Boon is town. He's doing the soliloquy thing he does whenever he is town.

Mastina is still scum.

~Mello

No explanation

I'm doing an executive decision, sorry Near.

VOTE: Mastina

~Mello

No explanation.

^subtly saying "this guy was wrong on severa, you shouldn't listen"

~Near

So you were wrong and still believe you're right on whatever you pursue next?

how does a mastina/rp/elena team sound, guys?

Mastina pushes rp but forgets about it and starts tunneling town, and keeps elena as a townread for bs reasons. Elena and rp already made sense as buddies. I like it.

~Near

"Mastina tunnels people and is scum because of it, yet when I do it, it's proof that I'm town, you guys!"

this lynch is stupid

theres no way both mastina and rp are town and theyre both content lynching this

~Near

No explanation.

page reminder that scumteam is mastina/rp/elena

everyone else is town

~Near

No explanation.

yes sn posts and the fact both mastina and rp are pushing them for shit reasons have made rp a townread

My reads are the same as yesterday + mastina

~Near

No explanation.

eod2 was rc/ooba/rp

With rc flipping town that became ooba/rp/elena with mastina as a possibility but Elena+ooba didnt quite fit

and now im at mastina/rp/elena which fits perfectly

~Near

No explanation.

almost is town

I insist mastina/Elena/rp should contain the two remaining

~Near

No explanation.

There's some incredibly damning reasons for Almost50 to be scum

almost is town

No explanation.

this is boring

mastina and elena are scum

everyone else is town

stop going after town and delaying this

No explanation.

Mastina insisted for the whole game that Severa was scum.
Mastina insisted for the whole game that toog was scum.
Is this not enough to establish that even if shes town, her reads should not be treated as gospel?

And yours should be?

I am not certain he is town and i dont want anyone to treat my reads as gospel

This is circular arguing and the reason i dont want to talk or play with you

You dont have actual reads, you just sheep people and attack playstyles

Make a single actual argument for almost scum, elena town or mastina town and ill respond to you. Until then youre back in ignore

Based on your postings till now, I think you do.

and more bullshit im not going to answer to

mastina needs rope.

No explanation.

Youve proven shit, youre playing exactly like you play as scum

No explanation.

VOTE: mastina

No explanation.

no whats absolute shit is you trying to blah blah your way out of obvscum country

No explanation.

non point
okay, its after the vedith lynch so its not part of his stalling posts
but the overall point remains

"I am right even if parts of my case are out of whack, you guys!"

both are town

No explanation.

Because you were commited to your tunnel(s) and didnt want to stray

Pot calling the kettle black.

get back on mastina pink ball how hard is it

No explanation.

almost is town, dunn. you cant be so blind

No explanation.

why are you guys stupid and we cant fucking lynch mastina and Elena

No explanation.

Almost is fucking obvtown why the fuck would anyone aligned with town vote him here

No explanation.

no, almost is justified there. Hes obvtown yet people are allowing scum to push him.

No explanation.

VOTE: mastina

No explanation.

Elena was the one that made mastina loved, amzela

Mastina and elena are supposedly suspecting each other today, but you'll find that they still wont vote each other

It cant be more obvious at this point

No explanation.

I dont care about her result on pb as pb is beyond obvtown

We lynch thr most obvious and most dangerous scum, ie.mastina

No explanation.

if you respect mastina's skills you should realize shes scum @joan

No explanation.

they still wont vote each other

scratch, apparently mastina voted Elena

but still

"I am wrong on one of my points, but I am still right, you guys!"

Nope youre well within your scum range.

No explanation

Seriously, how doesn't anyone see through their bullshit?

[Joan of Arc]

just want to see mastina flip scum so Joan has to actually play the game

Yeah well newsflash.

I'm fucking flipping town.

Because I am fucking town.

So guess what you get after my flip?

You get to fucking deal with a vidicative Joan.
Who tells you "I TOLD YOU SO".
Over.

And over.

And fucking over again.

Because she did fucking tell you so.
And she was absolutely fucking right to tell you so.
And you'll be able to do NOTHING about it.

Because she was. absolutely. RIGHT.
Nothing you can say then will ever change that.

Have fun, jackass.

Why calling me names?

I dunno, why are you calling me names?

I haven't

You call me 'incompetent', and then said that 'my gameplay is trash'. Maybe it's not 'calling me names' from your POV, but it sure is from mine.

[Joan of Arc]

mastina, one more fucking time: don't call me names. I don't care what's going on in the game, fuck off

The only names I've called you are variants of ass and I won't apologize for those when voting me is exactly that.

You're conftown, and going down the road of voting me is nothing less.

I'm not asking for an apology, I'm asking you to stop doing it. Don't start acting like Joan where I should know that you're town or not, I don't know 'cause I'm town. Shut the fuck up

Oh, so just because you 'don't know' makes it okay to risk mislynching her?

Yeah, no.

[Joan of Arc]

Bringing this over

Boon is town. He's doing the soliloquy thing he does whenever he is town.

Mastina is still scum.

~Mello

No explanation

I'm doing an executive decision, sorry Near.

VOTE: Mastina

~Mello

No explanation.

^subtly saying "this guy was wrong on severa, you shouldn't listen"

~Near

So you were wrong and still believe you're right on whatever you pursue next?

how does a mastina/rp/elena team sound, guys?

Mastina pushes rp but forgets about it and starts tunneling town, and keeps elena as a townread for bs reasons. Elena and rp already made sense as buddies. I like it.

~Near

"Mastina tunnels people and is scum because of it, yet when I do it, it's proof that I'm town, you guys!"

this lynch is stupid

theres no way both mastina and rp are town and theyre both content lynching this

~Near

No explanation.

page reminder that scumteam is mastina/rp/elena

everyone else is town

~Near

No explanation.

yes sn posts and the fact both mastina and rp are pushing them for shit reasons have made rp a townread

My reads are the same as yesterday + mastina

~Near

No explanation.

eod2 was rc/ooba/rp

With rc flipping town that became ooba/rp/elena with mastina as a possibility but Elena+ooba didnt quite fit

and now im at mastina/rp/elena which fits perfectly

~Near

No explanation.

almost is town

I insist mastina/Elena/rp should contain the two remaining

~Near

No explanation.

There's some incredibly damning reasons for Almost50 to be scum

almost is town

No explanation.

this is boring

mastina and elena are scum

everyone else is town

stop going after town and delaying this

No explanation.

Mastina insisted for the whole game that Severa was scum.
Mastina insisted for the whole game that toog was scum.
Is this not enough to establish that even if shes town, her reads should not be treated as gospel?

And yours should be?

I am not certain he is town and i dont want anyone to treat my reads as gospel

This is circular arguing and the reason i dont want to talk or play with you

You dont have actual reads, you just sheep people and attack playstyles

Make a single actual argument for almost scum, elena town or mastina town and ill respond to you. Until then youre back in ignore

Based on your postings till now, I think you do.

and more bullshit im not going to answer to

mastina needs rope.

No explanation.

Youve proven shit, youre playing exactly like you play as scum

No explanation.

VOTE: mastina

No explanation.

no whats absolute shit is you trying to blah blah your way out of obvscum country

No explanation.

non point
okay, its after the vedith lynch so its not part of his stalling posts
but the overall point remains

"I am right even if parts of my case are out of whack, you guys!"

both are town

No explanation.

Because you were commited to your tunnel(s) and didnt want to stray

Pot calling the kettle black.

get back on mastina pink ball how hard is it

No explanation.

almost is town, dunn. you cant be so blind

No explanation.

why are you guys stupid and we cant fucking lynch mastina and Elena

No explanation.

Almost is fucking obvtown why the fuck would anyone aligned with town vote him here

No explanation.

no, almost is justified there. Hes obvtown yet people are allowing scum to push him.

No explanation.

VOTE: mastina

No explanation.

Elena was the one that made mastina loved, amzela

Mastina and elena are supposedly suspecting each other today, but you'll find that they still wont vote each other

It cant be more obvious at this point

No explanation.

I dont care about her result on pb as pb is beyond obvtown

We lynch thr most obvious and most dangerous scum, ie.mastina

No explanation.

if you respect mastina's skills you should realize shes scum @joan

No explanation.

they still wont vote each other

scratch, apparently mastina voted Elena

but still

"I am wrong on one of my points, but I am still right, you guys!"

Nope youre well within your scum range.

No explanation

Seriously, how doesn't anyone see through their bullshit?

[Joan of Arc]

mastina, one more fucking time: don't call me names. I don't care what's going on in the game, fuck off

The only names I've called you are variants of ass and I won't apologize for those when voting me is exactly that.

You're conftown, and going down the road of voting me is nothing less.

I'm not asking for an apology, I'm asking you to stop doing it. Don't start acting like Joan where I should know that you're town or not, I don't know 'cause I'm town. Shut the fuck up

Oh, so just because you 'don't know' makes it okay to risk mislynching her?

Yeah, no.

You can say that about anyone when you're town. Shut the fuck up, Joan.

No way. Not when you are against possibly mislynching Elena, but are okay with mislynching mastina, at the same time.

[Joan of Arc]

mastina, one more fucking time: don't call me names. I don't care what's going on in the game, fuck off

The only names I've called you are variants of ass and I won't apologize for those when voting me is exactly that.

You're conftown, and going down the road of voting me is nothing less.

I'm not asking for an apology, I'm asking you to stop doing it. Don't start acting like Joan where I should know that you're town or not, I don't know 'cause I'm town. Shut the fuck up

Oh, so just because you 'don't know' makes it okay to risk mislynching her?

Yeah, no.

You can say that about anyone when you're town. Shut the fuck up, Joan.

No way. Not when you are against possibly mislynching Elena, but are okay with mislynching mastina, at the same time.

I said I'm scumreading Elena and I'm not voting mastina. You're so good at this game.

Then fucking vote Elena >.>

[Joan of Arc]

mastina, one more fucking time: don't call me names. I don't care what's going on in the game, fuck off

The only names I've called you are variants of ass and I won't apologize for those when voting me is exactly that.

You're conftown, and going down the road of voting me is nothing less.

I'm not asking for an apology, I'm asking you to stop doing it. Don't start acting like Joan where I should know that you're town or not, I don't know 'cause I'm town. Shut the fuck up

Oh, so just because you 'don't know' makes it okay to risk mislynching her?

Yeah, no.

You can say that about anyone when you're town. Shut the fuck up, Joan.

No way. Not when you are against possibly mislynching Elena, but are okay with mislynching mastina, at the same time.

I said I'm scumreading Elena and I'm not voting mastina. You're so good at this game.

Also, considering you voted mastina at day start and have just stated that you will hammer mastina as soon as she gets to L-1, I'm not inclined to buy that.

Now, let me throw you own question back at you: are you willing to die if we promise to quicklynch mastina if you flip town?

[Joan of Arc]

Also, considering you voted mastina at day start and have just stated that you will hammer mastina as soon as she gets to L-1, I'm not inclined to buy that.

Now, let me throw you own question back at you: are you willing to die if we promise to quicklynch mastina if you flip town?

Sorry Joan, I'm done with you

Nope. You don't get to ask me that question, and then chicken out when I ask you the same thing.

Now answer, or I will quicklynch you instead of Elena out of spite.

[Joan of Arc]

Bringing this over

Boon is town. He's doing the soliloquy thing he does whenever he is town.

Mastina is still scum.

~Mello

No explanation

I'm doing an executive decision, sorry Near.

VOTE: Mastina

~Mello

No explanation.

^subtly saying "this guy was wrong on severa, you shouldn't listen"

~Near

So you were wrong and still believe you're right on whatever you pursue next?

how does a mastina/rp/elena team sound, guys?

Mastina pushes rp but forgets about it and starts tunneling town, and keeps elena as a townread for bs reasons. Elena and rp already made sense as buddies. I like it.

~Near

"Mastina tunnels people and is scum because of it, yet when I do it, it's proof that I'm town, you guys!"

this lynch is stupid

theres no way both mastina and rp are town and theyre both content lynching this

~Near

No explanation.

page reminder that scumteam is mastina/rp/elena

everyone else is town

~Near

No explanation.

yes sn posts and the fact both mastina and rp are pushing them for shit reasons have made rp a townread

My reads are the same as yesterday + mastina

~Near

No explanation.

eod2 was rc/ooba/rp

With rc flipping town that became ooba/rp/elena with mastina as a possibility but Elena+ooba didnt quite fit

and now im at mastina/rp/elena which fits perfectly

~Near

No explanation.

almost is town

I insist mastina/Elena/rp should contain the two remaining

~Near

No explanation.

There's some incredibly damning reasons for Almost50 to be scum

almost is town

No explanation.

this is boring

mastina and elena are scum

everyone else is town

stop going after town and delaying this

No explanation.

Mastina insisted for the whole game that Severa was scum.
Mastina insisted for the whole game that toog was scum.
Is this not enough to establish that even if shes town, her reads should not be treated as gospel?

And yours should be?

I am not certain he is town and i dont want anyone to treat my reads as gospel

This is circular arguing and the reason i dont want to talk or play with you

You dont have actual reads, you just sheep people and attack playstyles

Make a single actual argument for almost scum, elena town or mastina town and ill respond to you. Until then youre back in ignore

Based on your postings till now, I think you do.

and more bullshit im not going to answer to

mastina needs rope.

No explanation.

Youve proven shit, youre playing exactly like you play as scum

No explanation.

VOTE: mastina

No explanation.

no whats absolute shit is you trying to blah blah your way out of obvscum country

No explanation.

non point
okay, its after the vedith lynch so its not part of his stalling posts
but the overall point remains

"I am right even if parts of my case are out of whack, you guys!"

both are town

No explanation.

Because you were commited to your tunnel(s) and didnt want to stray

Pot calling the kettle black.

get back on mastina pink ball how hard is it

No explanation.

almost is town, dunn. you cant be so blind

No explanation.

why are you guys stupid and we cant fucking lynch mastina and Elena

No explanation.

Almost is fucking obvtown why the fuck would anyone aligned with town vote him here

No explanation.

no, almost is justified there. Hes obvtown yet people are allowing scum to push him.

No explanation.

VOTE: mastina

No explanation.

Elena was the one that made mastina loved, amzela

Mastina and elena are supposedly suspecting each other today, but you'll find that they still wont vote each other

It cant be more obvious at this point

No explanation.

I dont care about her result on pb as pb is beyond obvtown

We lynch thr most obvious and most dangerous scum, ie.mastina

No explanation.

if you respect mastina's skills you should realize shes scum @joan

No explanation.

they still wont vote each other

scratch, apparently mastina voted Elena

but still

"I am wrong on one of my points, but I am still right, you guys!"

Nope youre well within your scum range.

No explanation

Seriously, how doesn't anyone see through their bullshit?

[Joan of Arc]

VOTE: Pink Ball

All right.

[Joan of Arc]

Go on

Well, you asked for it here.

[Joan of Arc]

Now answer, or I will quicklynch you instead of Elena out of spite.

Nope, you said you were going to do it, I said you should do it 'cause I'm not answering your questions.

Either way, you told me to do it.

[Joan of Arc]

Also, you are not conftown. In fact, you outright said no to voting Elena and becoming one.

[Joan of Arc]

Now answer, or I will quicklynch you instead of Elena out of spite.

Nope, you said you were going to do it, I said you should do it 'cause I'm not answering your questions.

Also

> asks me a question and demands that I answer it
> when I ask him that very same question, he refuses to answer it.

And you say I am a hypocrite? LMAO

[Joan of Arc]

Now answer, or I will quicklynch you instead of Elena out of spite.

Nope, you said you were going to do it, I said you should do it 'cause I'm not answering your questions.

Either way, you told me to do it.

Nope, you said you were going to do it, and I reaffirmed that I wasn't going to answer your questions, so you would have to do it.

Also no, I AM conftown, and I didn't say I wasn't going to vote Elena, I said I would do it but not now.

You're such a loser, Joan.

Not okay.

Not fucking okay.

And calling me a hypocrite is okay?

(Not that I mind the defense, but still. Practice what you preach.)

[Joan of Arc]

Now answer, or I will quicklynch you instead of Elena out of spite.

Nope, you said you were going to do it, I said you should do it 'cause I'm not answering your questions.

Also

> asks me a question and demands that I answer it
> when I ask him that very same question, he refuses to answer it.

And you say I am a hypocrite? LMAO

Yeah

Pot calling a kettle black.

[Joan of Arc]

Lowkey, as much as I like Phos, this kind of treatment is making me seriously consider replacing out.

[Joan of Arc]

Lowkey, as much as I like Phos, this kind of treatment is making me seriously consider replacing out.

What kind of treatment. I already said it was a joke, Joan. I'm not mad at you.

I am talking about your refusal to answer my question, despite demanding that I answer yours. >.>

[Joan of Arc]

You want Wisdom treatment?

All right.......

[Joan of Arc]

Lowkey, as much as I like Phos, this kind of treatment is making me seriously consider replacing out.

What kind of treatment. I already said it was a joke, Joan. I'm not mad at you.

I am talking about your refusal to answer my question, despite demanding that I answer yours. >.>

Oh well

JSYK, I am not answering any of your questions again.

[Joan of Arc]

And don't you dare demand that I do answer either. If you can't extend the same courtesy to me, then you don't deserve any answers from me, period.

[Joan of Arc]

I will be posting anime music videos for the remainder of the day, for the sake of my sanity and keeping Phos. <3

[Joan of Arc]

He is, like, my only bright spot in this whole mess.

[Joan of Arc]

Can you guys make the game remotely playable, for me, pretty please? I dread opening the thread pretty much since D2 because of how much needless emotions are in the game.

There should be an ignore function, you know, Joan, Pink Ball. What are you producing by arguing with everyone on personal levels like this?
If you won't be productive talking with somebody, then fucking don't.
This goes for everyone. Leave your personal grudges and over the top emotions out of the door. Realize you play this game to have fun and not have e-dick size contests with people on the internet.

He started it.

[Joan of Arc]

Can you guys make the game remotely playable, for me, pretty please? I dread opening the thread pretty much since D2 because of how much needless emotions are in the game.

There should be an ignore function, you know, Joan, Pink Ball. What are you producing by arguing with everyone on personal levels like this?
If you won't be productive talking with somebody, then fucking don't.
This goes for everyone. Leave your personal grudges and over the top emotions out of the door. Realize you play this game to have fun and not have e-dick size contests with people on the internet.

He started it.

And I will end it.

[Joan of Arc]

joan is incapable of doing anything but personal fights
if you want games without that toxicity wotc her like every sane person does

So I am supposed to take being treated unfairly and people acting hypocritically towards me is okay?

And speaking of hypocritical, we had an agreement that you stay the hell out of games I've joined first. You told me you don't mind playing games with me if I am on alt, but just because you don't have a problem playing with me doesn't mean I don't have a problem playing with you. And for this game, I was there first, so I am the one who has the right to kick YOU out, not the other way around.

[Joan of Arc]

Man

Last time I played was a year ago and I liked Joan.

I still like Joan.

Even though I don't think she likes me anymore.

I get kind of protective of her, tbh. Too many people are dicks.

Anyways.

mafia. Torque, who do we lynch?

If you like me, then act like it.

[Joan of Arc]

Man

Last time I played was a year ago and I liked Joan.

I still like Joan.

Even though I don't think she likes me anymore.

I get kind of protective of her, tbh. Too many people are dicks.

Anyways.

mafia. Torque, who do we lynch?

If you like me, then act like it.

And by that I mean, apologize for calling me a hypocrite and refrain from calling me one ever again.

[Joan of Arc]

Please.. Wisdom called me brainless

who gives a shit

I do. I am that type of person. I take these kinds of things rather personally, as Cerb can confirm.

[Joan of Arc]

@Near and Mello Don't ever play with me, or any of my alts or hydras again. And this time, you stick with it. I am not letting you void our agreement again just because you feel like it.

[Joan of Arc]

I have been waiting for two years to have Phos as my flavor, and then you waltzed in and ruined the entire experience for me. Not only that, but you've turned Cerb, who I consider a friend, against me.

So congratulations for being a mood-killer.

[Joan of Arc]

@Near and Mello Don't ever play with me, or any of my alts or hydras again. And this time, you stick with it. I am not letting you void our agreement again just because you feel like it.

I have been waiting for two years to have Phos as my flavor, and then you waltzed in and ruined the entire experience for me. Not only that, but you've turned Cerb, who I consider a friend, against me.

So congratulations for being a mood-killer.

[Joan of Arc]

@Near and Mello Don't ever play with me, or any of my alts or hydras again. And this time, you stick with it. I am not letting you void our agreement again just because you feel like it.

I have been waiting for two years to have Phos as my flavor, and then you waltzed in and ruined the entire experience for me. Not only that, but you've turned Cerb, who I consider a friend, against me.

So congratulations for being a mood-killer.

[Joan of Arc]

OKAY, FINE, IGFNORE ME, BUT IF YOU EVER JOIN ANY OF MY GAMES AFTER ME, I AM KICKING YOU OUT ALL THE WAY TO WASHINGTON, YA HEAR ME?!

[Joan of Arc]

@Torque Tell Wisdom never to play with me again under any circumstances.

[Joan of Arc]

OKAY, FINE, IGFNORE ME, BUT IF YOU EVER JOIN ANY OF MY GAMES AFTER ME, I AM KICKING YOU OUT ALL THE WAY TO WASHINGTON, YA HEAR ME?!

dude the guy muted you

I DON'T CARE. IF HE IS GOING TO INTENTIONALLY VOID OUR AGREEMENT AND RUIN MY TIME JUST BECAUSE HE WANTS TO, THEN HE SHOULD AT LEAST HAVE THE DECENCY TO RESPOND TO ME.

[Joan of Arc]

AND BELIEVE ME, I'VE TRIED PUTTING SOMEONE ON IGNORE AND I COULD STILL SEE THEIR POSTS.

[Joan of Arc]

I think he can see it when I quote your post

SEE? HE DOESN'T EVEN HAVE THE DECENCY TO RESPOND.

OH WELL, IF ALMOST CAN REPORT PEOPLE FOR STALKING, I CAN TO.

HE CAN CONSIDER HIMSELF REPORTED FOR STALKING.

[Joan of Arc]

can you go tilt at each other in PMs after the game

NO, COS HE WILL FUCKING NOT RESPOND.

[Joan of Arc]

Added him to foes list, and can still see his posts.

[Joan of Arc]

OKAY, FINE, IGFNORE ME, BUT IF YOU EVER JOIN ANY OF MY GAMES AFTER ME, I AM KICKING YOU OUT ALL THE WAY TO WASHINGTON, YA HEAR ME?!

OKAY, FINE, IGFNORE ME, BUT IF YOU EVER JOIN ANY OF MY GAMES AFTER ME, I AM KICKING YOU OUT ALL THE WAY TO WASHINGTON, YA HEAR ME?!

dude the guy muted you

I DON'T CARE. IF HE IS GOING TO INTENTIONALLY VOID OUR AGREEMENT AND RUIN MY TIME JUST BECAUSE HE WANTS TO, THEN HE SHOULD AT LEAST HAVE THE DECENCY TO RESPOND TO ME.

I think he can see it when I quote your post

SEE? HE DOESN'T EVEN HAVE THE DECENCY TO RESPOND.

OH WELL, IF ALMOST CAN REPORT PEOPLE FOR STALKING, I CAN TO.

HE CAN CONSIDER HIMSELF REPORTED FOR STALKING.

[Joan of Arc]

All right. I've had it. Torque, how do I report a user?

[Joan of Arc]

OKAY, FINE, IGFNORE ME, BUT IF YOU EVER JOIN ANY OF MY GAMES AFTER ME, I AM KICKING YOU OUT ALL THE WAY TO WASHINGTON, YA HEAR ME?!

OKAY, FINE, IGFNORE ME, BUT IF YOU EVER JOIN ANY OF MY GAMES AFTER ME, I AM KICKING YOU OUT ALL THE WAY TO WASHINGTON, YA HEAR ME?!

dude the guy muted you

I DON'T CARE. IF HE IS GOING TO INTENTIONALLY VOID OUR AGREEMENT AND RUIN MY TIME JUST BECAUSE HE WANTS TO, THEN HE SHOULD AT LEAST HAVE THE DECENCY TO RESPOND TO ME.

I think he can see it when I quote your post

SEE? HE DOESN'T EVEN HAVE THE DECENCY TO RESPOND.

OH WELL, IF ALMOST CAN REPORT PEOPLE FOR STALKING, I CAN TO.

HE CAN CONSIDER HIMSELF REPORTED FOR STALKING.

[Joan of Arc]

All right. I've had it. Torque, how do I report a user?

[Joan of Arc]

Please tell me.

[Joan of Arc]

Talk to the people who run Mafiascum maybe, i dunno

Okay, but why is he ignoring me? He is the one who violated our agreement, so he has no right to pretend that I am the bad one.

[Joan of Arc]

Joan youre right its my fault for playing in this

it is not happening again

do us all a favor and let it go

Yeah, somehow I don't trust you it won't. You violated this kinda agreement when you joined this game, so I don't trust you that you will not do it again whenever you feel like it.

[Joan of Arc]

So like I said, I will let it go, but if I see you try to join any game I've signed up for after me, I will tell the mod to remove you from the playerlist. I will not have you ruin another game I'm looking forward to for me.

[Joan of Arc]

So like I said, I will let it go, but if I see you try to join any game I've signed up for after me, I will tell the mod to remove you from the playerlist. I will not have you ruin another game I'm looking forward to for me.

Just in case it didn't register.

[Joan of Arc]

Also, didn't N x M say something about 'scumreading mastina even if there is a cop inno on her'?

Like, I don't even.....

[Joan of Arc]

I invite you to my realm, where bullshit goes to die.

[Joan of Arc]

Also, didn't N x M say something about 'scumreading mastina even if there is a cop inno on her'?

Like, I don't even.....

[Joan of Arc]

I cant believe mastina still isnt lynched. She's been obvious scum since the beginning. Lynch Elena immediately after.

~Mello

Are you sure you want to lynch her even if there is a cop inno on her, like your other head said?

[Joan of Arc]

Like, there is is stubborn and then there is insane, and lynching a cop clear is insane.

[Joan of Arc]

And still no explanation from N x M slot as to why mastina is scum.

Like, even if she is, why the hell do they expect people would follow them if they repeat the same thing over and over again with little to no explanation?

[Joan of Arc]

A re-post of of N x M's ISO in regards to mastina.

Boon is town. He's doing the soliloquy thing he does whenever he is town.

Mastina is still scum.

~Mello

No explanation

I'm doing an executive decision, sorry Near.

VOTE: Mastina

~Mello

No explanation.

^subtly saying "this guy was wrong on severa, you shouldn't listen"

~Near

So you were wrong and still believe you're right on whatever you pursue next?

how does a mastina/rp/elena team sound, guys?

Mastina pushes rp but forgets about it and starts tunneling town, and keeps elena as a townread for bs reasons. Elena and rp already made sense as buddies. I like it.

~Near

"Mastina tunnels people and is scum because of it, yet when I do it, it's proof that I'm town, you guys!"

this lynch is stupid

theres no way both mastina and rp are town and theyre both content lynching this

~Near

No explanation.

page reminder that scumteam is mastina/rp/elena

everyone else is town

~Near

No explanation.

yes sn posts and the fact both mastina and rp are pushing them for shit reasons have made rp a townread

My reads are the same as yesterday + mastina

~Near

No explanation.

eod2 was rc/ooba/rp

With rc flipping town that became ooba/rp/elena with mastina as a possibility but Elena+ooba didnt quite fit

and now im at mastina/rp/elena which fits perfectly

~Near

No explanation.

almost is town

I insist mastina/Elena/rp should contain the two remaining

~Near

No explanation.

There's some incredibly damning reasons for Almost50 to be scum

almost is town

No explanation.

this is boring

mastina and elena are scum

everyone else is town

stop going after town and delaying this

No explanation.

Mastina insisted for the whole game that Severa was scum.
Mastina insisted for the whole game that toog was scum.
Is this not enough to establish that even if shes town, her reads should not be treated as gospel?

And yours should be?

I am not certain he is town and i dont want anyone to treat my reads as gospel

This is circular arguing and the reason i dont want to talk or play with you

You dont have actual reads, you just sheep people and attack playstyles

Make a single actual argument for almost scum, elena town or mastina town and ill respond to you. Until then youre back in ignore

Based on your postings till now, I think you do.

and more bullshit im not going to answer to

mastina needs rope.

No explanation.

Youve proven shit, youre playing exactly like you play as scum

No explanation.

VOTE: mastina

No explanation.

no whats absolute shit is you trying to blah blah your way out of obvscum country

No explanation.

non point
okay, its after the vedith lynch so its not part of his stalling posts
but the overall point remains

"I am right even if parts of my case are out of whack, you guys!"

both are town

No explanation.

Because you were commited to your tunnel(s) and didnt want to stray

Pot calling the kettle black.

get back on mastina pink ball how hard is it

No explanation.

almost is town, dunn. you cant be so blind

No explanation.

why are you guys stupid and we cant fucking lynch mastina and Elena

No explanation.

Almost is fucking obvtown why the fuck would anyone aligned with town vote him here

No explanation.

no, almost is justified there. Hes obvtown yet people are allowing scum to push him.

No explanation.

VOTE: mastina

No explanation.

Elena was the one that made mastina loved, amzela

Mastina and elena are supposedly suspecting each other today, but you'll find that they still wont vote each other

It cant be more obvious at this point

No explanation.

I dont care about her result on pb as pb is beyond obvtown

We lynch thr most obvious and most dangerous scum, ie.mastina

No explanation.

if you respect mastina's skills you should realize shes scum @joan

No explanation.

they still wont vote each other

scratch, apparently mastina voted Elena

but still

"I am wrong on one of my points, but I am still right, you guys!"

Nope youre well within your scum range.

No explanation

Seriously, how doesn't anyone see through their bullshit?

Like, even if mastina is scum, which I doubt, how the heck are these posts supposed to convince anyone that she is scum?

[Joan of Arc]

Like, this post sums up how I feel about the whole thing.

just want to see mastina flip scum so Joan has to actually play the game

Yeah well newsflash.

I'm fucking flipping town.

Because I am fucking town.

So guess what you get after my flip?

You get to fucking deal with a vidicative Joan.
Who tells you "I TOLD YOU SO".
Over.

And over.

And fucking over again.

Because she did fucking tell you so.
And she was absolutely fucking right to tell you so.
And you'll be able to do NOTHING about it.

Because she was. absolutely. RIGHT.
Nothing you can say then will ever change that.

You want to bet the game on mastina being scum, to the point you'd risk loss if it means getting that lynch? Fine.

But don't you dare blame me once it blows up in your faces.

[Joan of Arc]

I have two conditions for ya'll.

1. Quote every single point mastina has made since the very beginning of the game. Every. Single. One. Then explain why exactly each one of her points makes her scum.
2. In the event that she flips town, don't fucking blame me for your own shortcomings, or attempt to shift the blame onto me. You made your bed, and you will have to lie in it.

If you agree to both, then I will sheep you.

[Joan of Arc]

Good to be back.

[Joan of Arc]

I cant believe mastina still isnt lynched. She's been obvious scum since the beginning. Lynch Elena immediately after.

~Mello

Are you sure you want to lynch her even if there is a cop inno on her, like your other head said?

Do you have a cop inno on her? Because if not Im pretty sure nobody has claimed any such thing.

I don't. I was talking about what Wisdom said, that they'd lynch her even if there is a cop inno on her, because they're that sure she is scum. Do you share that sentiment?

[Joan of Arc]

Okay, so have you discussed what you will do if she were to flip town with him?

[Joan of Arc]

Reevaluate and move on

Nope, that's not acceptable. If you're gonna tunnel, at least apologize for being wrong, before re-evaluating. I mean, it's only polite.

[Joan of Arc]

Apologize for what? For pushing a read? For playing the game? People have eyes, they can read mastina and they can agree or disagree. If mastina is lynched, it means mastina was scummy enough for enough people to scumread her and vote her. Nobody that scumread her should have to apologize.

For being wrong on the read. Didn't anyone teach you that you should apologize for being wrong about something?

[Joan of Arc]

This is not kindergarten. Its a game of mafia. Youll get some reads right, some wrong. Theres nothing to apologize for.

See, this is why I dislike his playstyle. It's because he goes on like he has done nothing wrong and refuses to learn from his mistakes.

[Joan of Arc]

This is not kindergarten. Its a game of mafia. Youll get some reads right, some wrong. Theres nothing to apologize for.

And I am guessing that you also believe that you don't have to apologize to someone you hurt or inconvenience in real life either. Yeah, what a great mindset you people have.

[Joan of Arc]

Phos, nozomi, nadeshiko and Sayuri are female?

Wrong. Phos is not.

[Joan of Arc]

Phos, nozomi, nadeshiko and Sayuri are female?

Wrong. Phos is not.

^relevant

[Joan of Arc]

All right, so why is everyone ignoring the fact that Phos isn't female?

I am especially talking to N x M slot. They may dislike me all they want, but that's no reason to disregard the fact that Phos isn't female..... -_-

[Joan of Arc]

Then say your supposition that she is female was wrong. Admit you are wrong on something for once. >.>

[Joan of Arc]

I knew phos was the female. Just not important to clarify since I was already aware of it.

PHOS ISN'T FEMALE. STOP CLAIMING HE IS.

[Joan of Arc]

Like m, most of my frustration with you is your apparent refusal to admit you could be wrong on something. If you were to do so, my problems with you would end.

[Joan of Arc]

Like m, most of my frustration with you is your apparent refusal to admit you could be wrong on something. If you were to do so, my problems with you would end.

and by this, I mean admit that you could be wrong on a read and learn from it. Tell yourself 'gee, maybe I should learn from my mistakes and I shouldn't assume my reads are 100% accurate, and I need to stop tunneling people so much'.

[Joan of Arc]

But I guess you're way too self-centered to actually do that.

[Joan of Arc]

ive told your multiple times thats not the case and you dont listen, so

If that's not the case, then you should have no problems with changing your playstyle to tunnel less and admitting you can wrong.

[Joan of Arc]

i tried doing it here and you still attacked me

Yeah, because you violated our agreement for selfish reason, and thus disrespected my desire not to play with you.

[Joan of Arc]

We made that agreement precisely because we knew playing together would cause the game to be toxic. When you violated that agreement, you ensured that it would be toxic. And like I've said already, I didn't want the game I've been looking forward to be ruined. That's why I want you dead.

[Joan of Arc]

i didnt violate anything. You said it was ok as long as i toned out my certainty of my reads. And i did.

and you raised it again, making it not okay.

[Joan of Arc]

Like, I don't see you toning down your certainty in your reads at this moment.

[Joan of Arc]

youre unbelievable though joan

you asked me not to be too sure of myself/control my ego etc (basically not be wisdom) and im doing it, i have barely pushed anyone in the game

to the point where I weird people out into scumreading me

and yet you still get to make the usual nonsensical attacks at me

so is it time to ignore you and return to being myself?

~Near

Until that post i had done nothing that warranted your attacks and yet you still attacked me. So i returned to being myself

I explictly stated in that PM that it was okay as long as you tone down your reads for the entire game. Entire game. Do you understand what 'entire game' means?

[Joan of Arc]

As far as I'm concerned, this is just an excuse. You dishonored my request pretty much as soon as you found an excuse to do so.

[Joan of Arc]

You told me to do something

I did it

You still attacked me

After that i had no obligation on continuing suppressing my character for your sake

Had it ever occured to you that it was a test on whether or not you would honor my request no matter what?!

[Joan of Arc]

One that you failed, mind you. The moment when I attacked you, you jumped on the excuse to continue tunneling people.

You would never learn. You would never improve. You would just continue tunneling people over and over again in every new game until the end of time. You'd be wrong on your reads over and over again, and you still won't re-examine yourself and realize that you're doing something wrong.

[Joan of Arc]

One that you failed, mind you. The moment when I attacked you, you jumped on the excuse to continue tunneling people.

You would never learn. You would never improve. You would just continue tunneling people over and over again in every new game until the end of time. You'd be wrong on your reads over and over again, and you still won't re-examine yourself and realize that you're doing something wrong.

[Joan of Arc]

i dont play mafia to put up with your tests

i honored what you wanted and expected you to be civil and tolerable

you werent so that was over

Well, I don't play mafia to put up with your bs tunnels. You ruined the game I was looking forward to playing for more than a year, plain and simple. End of story.

[Joan of Arc]

You still ignore this.

One that you failed, mind you. The moment when I attacked you, you jumped on the excuse to continue tunneling people.

You would never learn. You would never improve. You would just continue tunneling people over and over again in every new game until the end of time. You'd be wrong on your reads over and over again, and you still won't re-examine yourself and realize that you're doing something wrong.

How convenient.

[Joan of Arc]

you only have yourself to blame

Yes, I do, for believing you actually can be honest and flexible in your gameplay. I know better now. :c

[Joan of Arc]

yep as i know youre incapable of offering anything more than toxicity to a mafia game

we're done here

And you're incapable of doing anything else other than tunneling people and pretending you are right even if you're not.

[Joan of Arc]

I mean, your post-game post for Symphonic Metal mafia proves how conceited you are. Rather than pause to consider that you're partially to blame for the game loss, you chose to shift blame onto Jake and others. That speaks volumes about what kind of person you really are.

[Joan of Arc]

I mean, your post-game post for Symphonic Metal mafia proves how conceited you are. Rather than pause to consider that maybe the game loss could partially be your fault because you pushed other people, you chose to shift blame entirely onto Jake and others. That speaks volumes about what kind of person you really are.

[Joan of Arc]

I mean, your post-game post for Symphonic Metal mafia proves how conceited you are. Rather than pause to consider that maybe the game loss could partially be your fault because you pushed the wrong people, you chose to shift blame entirely onto Jake and others. That speaks volumes about what kind of person you really are.

[Joan of Arc]

How convenient that you decide to stop talking to me right before I outline the real reason I am frustrated with you.

[Joan of Arc]

And if you think that such behavior is okay, then no, it is not.

[Joan of Arc]

can we FUCKING STOP

Joan, why isn't Wisdom a wolf and he's pushing mislynches instead of his reads being wrong

Wisdom, is the thing you gave me negative effects immunity

Because his play is reminiscent of SM mafia, where he did exactly the same thing he is doing now.

>Tunneling people
>Shifting the blame onto everyone but himself even after his reads turn out to be wrong
>being a pain in the ass

So as much as I loathe to admit it, I am 80% sure he is town. I still want to PL him though, just to make sure I won't become insane as a result of his shitty attitude.

[Joan of Arc]

Ya know I haven't exactly seen Wisdom blaming anyone else for that Jet and Spike lynch. but whatever

I'm sure his town meta, if it really is as simple as you say it is, it's very easy to emulate.

You're 80% sure he's town, then who's scum?

I am not talking about his play in this game only. I am talking about how his play emulates his play in one of the previous games, where he was town. It's a meta thing

Read his ISO in the following game, and you'll see what I mean

viewtopic.php?f=53&t=65667&start=2100

[Joan of Arc]

This is three years ago

Which further proves my point about how he refuses to learn from his mistakes and instead shifts the blame onto everyone else after each loss so he can continue to tunnel people without consequences.

[Joan of Arc]

Wisdom in a nutshell: It's not my fault that we've lost the game, because admitting that I am at fault would ruin my image, or - Heaven forbid - force me to change my playstyle. So instead, I will shift all the blame on the people I've tunneled, because God forbid I actually try to improve or learn from my mistakes.

[Joan of Arc]

No I mean I know how Wisdom is like as a villager, never seen him as scum
Why isn't he scum in this game emulating how he plays as town

He might be, but I doubt it.

Convince me?

[Joan of Arc]

No I mean I know how Wisdom is like as a villager, never seen him as scum
Why isn't he scum in this game emulating how he plays as town

I haven't seen him as scum either.

[Joan of Arc]

Sigh..
Really I just want to tell you that if you have that agreement that you won't play games with each other then it's not your problem if he fixes his tunneling issue or not
Move the fuck on and hunt some wolves, alright

Yeah, if he actually honored that agreement, but he didn't. He signed-up for the game I've joined first despite the agreement. :/

[Joan of Arc]

And he convinced me to give him a chance by flat-out lying to me, and then chose to dishonor my request.

[Joan of Arc]

joan, trust me, none of the other 8 players that are still alive gives a shit.

deal with it privately after the game

Can you guarantee me that he would listen to what I have to say after the game?

[Joan of Arc]

Also, my problem with him is not his tunneling, but the fact that after the game loss happens as a result of his actions, rather than admit that he was one at fault, he shifts the blame for the loss elsewhere.

[Joan of Arc]

joan, trust me, none of the other 8 players that are still alive gives a shit.

deal with it privately after the game

Cerb does.

[Joan of Arc]

how can i guarantee it
i dont even know if i want to play more mafia after

Look I'm sure weeblord wisdom just really wanted to play this game too and he just cant resist and he apologized for joining the game you're in
go look for wolves, alright

Okay, so if you can't guarantee that he would listen to what I have to say, then how the hell can you expect me to deal with it privately after the game? What if he refuse to acknowledge my post-game posts or respond to my post-game PMs/sitechat messages?

[Joan of Arc]

Also, which part of 'I can't focus on scumhunting while he is alive because I am sick of his attitude' don't you get?