Anime U-Pick: King Size [SEASON FINALE...?]

[mastina]

Scum shoot that one tonight

Which falls apart...
...Because Pink Ball...
...Is fucking. BULLETPROOF.
He literally claimed that shit on D1.

Why am I literally the only one who's remembering these claims?

And why is nobody listening to posts where I outright say these claims? I opened today saying Pink Ball had claimed nightkill immunity; why didn't people look into that?

[mastina]

Lynching mastina was actually the suggestion of my other head,

who hasn't even read the game in depth.

And therein lies the fucking problem.

If she had read the game in depth.

She wouldn't be fucking lynching me.

[mastina]

I believe it's A50/mastina for reasons I can go into (I should answer the case A50 made on me at one point. Given I fully expected to die I ignored it)

So you think.
That I am scum.
With the fucking person.
I was trying to fucking lynch.
And only stopped trying.
After he fucking flipped out.

You think.
That I am scum.
With the fucking person.
I am still fucking calling scum even after that.



Get real.

[Cerberus v666]

We should have had all the people target C&Y if we were trying to mechanically get conftown, that way we sacrifice one town for numerous conftown. Hell, it would have been even better because if we're confident C&Y is town, then we don't even need to lynch them, and scum can't kill them without losing mislynch options.

My plan was to target them tonight. You SHOULD be fucking JUMPING on this opportunity, Cerb.

Torque just confirmed that my power, when successful, was confirmed to him.
Meaning that when I target Chito and Yuuri tonight.
They will be able to fucking confirm I targeted them tonight.
Meaning that on D5.
I'd be conftown.

Because my action would be proven to have worked, on the claimed disloyal PGO.

You are planning to lynch someone who, come tomorrow, would be 100% conftown.

Why would you visit PB over C&Y?

Two reasons. In spite of Near x Mello's insistence otherwise, everyone in the neighborhood save for me had suspicions on Pink Ball--he was not a universal townread. Dunnstral had suspicions there; Elena had suspicions there; Torque had suspicions there.

Two, and more importantly--

I suggested Pink Ball or Joan because I can potentially confirm (or deconfirm) Elena's ability but only if she visits those two.

Torque confirming Elena visited Pink Ball would give assurance beyond any shadow of a doubt that she did what she said she did.

Only 100% conftown if 1) your action isn't interfered with, 2) Chito and Yuuri aren't killed tonight( I thought they would be the most likely kill last night, given their claim(ESPECIALLY SINCE WHOEVER KILLED DUNNSTRAL WAS CLEARLY CAPABLE OF AVOIDING DEATH TO A PGO), AND 3) we lynch Chito & Yuuri tomorrow, and they flip town.

Man. I keep running into reasons to think Chito & Yuuri are scum.

If someone protected someone last night, you should really fucking claim it, because whoever you protected is scum. If nobody claims it, then scum have a wholly internally contained mechanism for protecting themselves from death due to their NK targeting, therefore they could have killed Chito & Yuuri. Do we think scum is bad enough that they killed Dunnstral while using that protection, over killing Chito & Yuuri?

[Joan of Arc]

Joan of Arc - phos
mastina - Nozomi Toujou fromBokura no Live Kimi to no Life
Almost50 - KIRITO (Sword Art Online
Torque - Nadeshiko Kagamihara - Yuru Camp
Near x Mello -Steins gate dudes
Pink Ball - Penguins #1, #2 & #3 from Mawaru Penguindrum
Chito and Yuuri -Chito & Yuuri
Elena Fisher - hasn't claimed

Is this correct so far?

@Joan: *shrug* I read the things they say, but I certainly don't put much weight on them, because it's a bunch of repeating the same thing over and over again with very little additional information gained at any point, combined with a refusal to explain reads.

No, you don't get to call me a hypocrite and then shrug it off when it's proven you're one.

[mastina]

just want to see mastina flip scum so Joan has to actually play the game

Yeah well newsflash.

I'm fucking flipping town.

Because I am fucking town.

So guess what you get after my flip?

You get to fucking deal with a vidicative Joan.
Who tells you "I TOLD YOU SO".
Over.

And over.

And fucking over again.

Because she did fucking tell you so.
And she was absolutely fucking right to tell you so.
And you'll be able to do NOTHING about it.

Because she was. absolutely. RIGHT.
Nothing you can say then will ever change that.

Have fun, jackass.

[Cerberus v666]

Joan of Arc - phos
mastina - Nozomi Toujou fromBokura no Live Kimi to no Life
Almost50 - KIRITO (Sword Art Online
Torque - Nadeshiko Kagamihara - Yuru Camp
Near x Mello -Steins gate dudes
Pink Ball - Penguins #1, #2 & #3 from Mawaru Penguindrum
Chito and Yuuri -Chito & Yuuri
Elena Fisher - hasn't claimed

Is this correct so far?

@Joan: *shrug* I read the things they say, but I certainly don't put much weight on them, because it's a bunch of repeating the same thing over and over again with very little additional information gained at any point, combined with a refusal to explain reads.

No, you don't get to call me a hypocrite and then shrug it off when it's proven you're one.

I can be a hypocrite too? I mean, who I am has no bearing on whether or not the descriptor I'm ascribing to you is accurate.

[Cerberus v666]

Lynching mastina was actually the suggestion of my other head,

who hasn't even read the game in depth.

And therein lies the fucking problem.

If she had read the game in depth.

She wouldn't be fucking lynching me.

I actually think she'd probably(based on my limited experience with her in forum mafia and what she views as scummy) be much more inclined to think you're scum than she currently does.

[mastina]

Mastina, you don't know whether or not the person you give a tarot card to would receive a message from the mod, right?

I do not.
I claimed exactly what I know.

I have three tarot cards (because they are my true passion): Fortune, Magician, and Strength. Each night I can pass them out to a player, either upright or reversed. Upright helps my target; reverse hurts them. Each card can only be used once. The power unlocks N3; the mod literally said, "What do they do? Well you know the meanings of the cards, so you might figure them out".

It says nothing in regards to my target's knowledge.

Heck I'm actually surprised you DO know it's from my tarot card. I was expecting it to just be, "you have been given X", a generic boon message where X is the effect of the tarot card.

[mastina]

Why would I need a contingency plan?

Oh, I dunno.

...Because I'm fucking town and pretending I'm not won't magically make me scum?

[Joan of Arc]

just want to see mastina flip scum so Joan has to actually play the game

Yeah well newsflash.

I'm fucking flipping town.

Because I am fucking town.

So guess what you get after my flip?

You get to fucking deal with a vidicative Joan.
Who tells you "I TOLD YOU SO".
Over.

And over.

And fucking over again.

Because she did fucking tell you so.
And she was absolutely fucking right to tell you so.
And you'll be able to do NOTHING about it.

Because she was. absolutely. RIGHT.
Nothing you can say then will ever change that.

Have fun, jackass.

^

[Near x Mello]

Man. I keep running into reasons to think Chito & Yuuri are scum.

I can buy mastina/Chito. Chito's insistence with lynching Gamma could be very well explained by being mastina's buddy

[Torque]

@mastina I'm not actually told that its from your tarot card, but it's pretty obvious. I'll tell y'all why sometime today.

[mastina]

Mastina, is there any reason to think PB and you aren't scum together, with PB having claimed BP so as to manipulate Elena Fisher into "confirming" them while someone else manipulated or otherwise interfered with Elena's action?

Elena.
Is.
FUCKING.
STRONGMAN.

Her action.
CAN'T.
Be interfered with.
Why the fuck do you think I was so insistent on letting her live otherwise?
With her action as a fucking STRONGMAN, nothing could stop it.

Also lol if you think Pink Ball-mastina interactions are EVER fucking scum-scum.

[Joan of Arc]

Joan of Arc - phos
mastina - Nozomi Toujou fromBokura no Live Kimi to no Life
Almost50 - KIRITO (Sword Art Online
Torque - Nadeshiko Kagamihara - Yuru Camp
Near x Mello -Steins gate dudes
Pink Ball - Penguins #1, #2 & #3 from Mawaru Penguindrum
Chito and Yuuri -Chito & Yuuri
Elena Fisher - hasn't claimed

Is this correct so far?

@Joan: *shrug* I read the things they say, but I certainly don't put much weight on them, because it's a bunch of repeating the same thing over and over again with very little additional information gained at any point, combined with a refusal to explain reads.

No, you don't get to call me a hypocrite and then shrug it off when it's proven you're one.

I can be a hypocrite too? I mean, who I am has no bearing on whether or not the descriptor I'm ascribing to you is accurate.

Well, I no longer like you, then.

[mastina]

Mastina has been going "i dont kill people who scumread me, i kill people who townread me" since forever

Not what I said.

I said that my modus operandi is to kill players when they are wrong and not when they are right, yes--but those players are players like Ankamius and Drixx. They are players who are fucking people that I respect, and with all due respect to Dunnstral. I don't respect him in that way. He's not a threat. He's not someone who registers.

And you know what I have a VERY FUCKING LONG track record of not doing as scum?

NOT FUCKING KILLING MY ALLIES WHO SIDE WITH ME.

Literally every single scumgame of mine ever.

My kills were focused on players who weren't defending me. On players who weren't pushing the same people I were. Even if the players were townreading me but I killed them because of the threat they posed--they weren't

defending

me, they weren't

agreeing

with me. Their lack of agreement with me was half the reason they died, out of fear that their lack of agreement would turn into a scumread even when it wasn't one at that very moment.

[Cerberus v666]

Joan of Arc - phos
mastina - Nozomi Toujou fromBokura no Live Kimi to no Life
Almost50 - KIRITO (Sword Art Online
Torque - Nadeshiko Kagamihara - Yuru Camp
Near x Mello -Steins gate dudes
Pink Ball - Penguins #1, #2 & #3 from Mawaru Penguindrum
Chito and Yuuri -Chito & Yuuri
Elena Fisher - hasn't claimed

Is this correct so far?

@Joan: *shrug* I read the things they say, but I certainly don't put much weight on them, because it's a bunch of repeating the same thing over and over again with very little additional information gained at any point, combined with a refusal to explain reads.

No, you don't get to call me a hypocrite and then shrug it off when it's proven you're one.

I can be a hypocrite too? I mean, who I am has no bearing on whether or not the descriptor I'm ascribing to you is accurate.

Well, I no longer like you, then.

That is unfortunate, but I still like you. <3

[Pink Ball]

just want to see mastina flip scum so Joan has to actually play the game

Yeah well newsflash.

I'm fucking flipping town.

Because I am fucking town.

So guess what you get after my flip?

You get to fucking deal with a vidicative Joan.
Who tells you "I TOLD YOU SO".
Over.

And over.

And fucking over again.

Because she did fucking tell you so.
And she was absolutely fucking right to tell you so.
And you'll be able to do NOTHING about it.

Because she was. absolutely. RIGHT.
Nothing you can say then will ever change that.

Have fun, jackass.

Why calling me names?

[mastina]

Eh, I had Dunnstral as a fairly likely kill last night, right after Chito.

Chito was never being killed last night because Chito wants to lynch me and scum are going to leave the players who want that lynch alive until it fucking happens.

Dunnstral was an obvious nightkill specifically because he was someone on my side.
The second-most-likely nightkill was Joan. For much the same reasons.
I'd say the second-most-likely was Torque, except that Torque asked to be protected and there was a fair bet he'd actually receive said protection.
Soyeah.

[Cerberus v666]

Eh, I had Dunnstral as a fairly likely kill last night, right after Chito.

Chito was never being killed last night because Chito wants to lynch me and scum are going to leave the players who want that lynch alive until it fucking happens.

Dunnstral was an obvious nightkill specifically because he was someone on my side.
The second-most-likely nightkill was Joan. For much the same reasons.
I'd say the second-most-likely was Torque, except that Torque asked to be protected and there was a fair bet he'd actually receive said protection.
Soyeah.

mastina, you don't matter that much.

Trust me.

[mastina]

Also, eh, scum clearly can kill them, right?
The strongman we saw could kill through protective actions, not passives(at least, that's how I read it, should pm the mod to confirm)...which means that unless scum was supposed to never be able to kill someone, then they likely have another way to break through bp...

Cerb.

What fucking happened.

To.

"The scumteam probably doesn't have two strongmans"?

You know.

YOUR FUCKING POST YOU MADE YESTERDAY.

[Joan of Arc]

Joan of Arc - phos
mastina - Nozomi Toujou fromBokura no Live Kimi to no Life
Almost50 - KIRITO (Sword Art Online
Torque - Nadeshiko Kagamihara - Yuru Camp
Near x Mello -Steins gate dudes
Pink Ball - Penguins #1, #2 & #3 from Mawaru Penguindrum
Chito and Yuuri -Chito & Yuuri
Elena Fisher - hasn't claimed

Is this correct so far?

@Joan: *shrug* I read the things they say, but I certainly don't put much weight on them, because it's a bunch of repeating the same thing over and over again with very little additional information gained at any point, combined with a refusal to explain reads.

No, you don't get to call me a hypocrite and then shrug it off when it's proven you're one.

I can be a hypocrite too? I mean, who I am has no bearing on whether or not the descriptor I'm ascribing to you is accurate.

Well, I no longer like you, then.

That is unfortunate, but I still like you. <3

Since when is calling me a hypocrite something that someone who likes me does?

[mastina]

Not a slip. Multiple scum strongmen are extremely improbable, so it's just her screwing up the role.

[Joan of Arc]

just want to see mastina flip scum so Joan has to actually play the game

Yeah well newsflash.

I'm fucking flipping town.

Because I am fucking town.

So guess what you get after my flip?

You get to fucking deal with a vidicative Joan.
Who tells you "I TOLD YOU SO".
Over.

And over.

And fucking over again.

Because she did fucking tell you so.
And she was absolutely fucking right to tell you so.
And you'll be able to do NOTHING about it.

Because she was. absolutely. RIGHT.
Nothing you can say then will ever change that.

Have fun, jackass.

Why calling me names?

I dunno, why are you calling me names?

[mastina]

Only 100% conftown if 1) your action isn't interfered with

Which would require scum to have a second fucking roleblocker.

I asked you, dead seriously, what the odds of a second roleblocker were on the scumteam.

You didn't answer then so I repeat the question now.

Chito and Yuuri aren't killed tonight

There is a rather high chance that the powers I have contain a self-protect action.
We used the one we thought was MOST LIKELY to be a protective on Torque, sure, but that doesn't mean it WAS a protective.
Scum killing Chito and Yuuri are running an awfully large risk of my action not saving them.

Which is something worth saying:
Bring it the fuck on.

(ESPECIALLY SINCE WHOEVER KILLED DUNNSTRAL WAS CLEARLY CAPABLE OF AVOIDING DEATH TO A PGO)

You seriously think that scum's ability to avoid death is unlimited?

FUCK no. That's a gated power; they can't repeatedly use it.

3) we lynch Chito & Yuuri tomorrow, and they flip town.

Unnecessary, because simply the act of succeeding would cause the only possibilities to be
1: I am scum WITH Chito and Yuuri, or
2: We are both town.

Do we think scum is bad enough that they killed Dunnstral while using that protection, over killing Chito & Yuuri?

Hey Cerb.
Fucking newsflash.
Do you seriously.
Fucking.
Think.
That I qualify as "bad enough"?

Because for me to be fucking scum.
Killing DUNNSTRAL WHO IS MY ALLY.
Over CHITO AND YUURI WHO WANT TO FUCKING LYNCH ME.

You are suggesting EXACTLY THAT.