Newbie 1920: North America [Endgame]

[teacher]

also I think your hammer actually comes from scum a lot more often than you're presenting. It might come from town more often than not, but i think it comes from scum a lot more than 5%

Are you an alt? If not...talk when you have more experience.

What's the scum!pers motivation for the hammer? I hadn't been under pressure the entire phase. There was no competing wagon, so I wasn't trying to save a buddy.

yea and that’s an easy defense too. At this point you have to recognize the candid I act and that you are a lylo liability if town. So best solve tomorrow.

[scum reading]

I just landed. I’m not positive that was the hammer, can someone confirm?

Also given claim state and possible Night death I do want people to look at acumreadings iso because I thought I saw crumbs which would now be questionable. Yes I recognize that outing that may not be for the best, but I think it it is better said at this point.

It was.

Crumbs?

[u r a person 2]

it was a hammer

wagon was sr, teacher, me, chenn, pers

[Persivul]

Eh, I was in the process of giving GW the road map to showing himself as town,

Er...why?

[u r a person 2]

Eh, I was in the process of giving GW the road map to showing himself as town,

Er...why?

what do you mean why?

Because he expressed a desire to work with me, which is not something I turn away from often, regardless of my read.

Because when my reads are wrong, working through the game with someone is a great way to figure out that they're wrong

Because if he is scum, giving him what appears to be a lifeline is a great way to con scum into continuing to spew

Because he's not some scum-god, and I'm not worried about him talking his way out of a lynch

Because this is a newbie game, and I'm looking to exhibit what I believe to be good play

[Zeito]

I'm going to try and post a series of shorter posts rather than single long ones, which will hopefully encourage me to post more and to pull my weight a little better.

im like two pages in atm but the scum team is TheASC and GW

Like I summarised in the long post somewhere on page 14, I do have an SR on GW and I would be happy to vote them. From the interaction with GW quickly defending TheASCs RVS post their team could make sense to me.

[Zeito]

zeito's thought processes are wonky, but there are a lot of them. This is the slot that is going to ping me scum but end up town at a rate at least greater than random.

I've debated with myself whether to talk about reads surrounding me because metaing yourself can come off strange in various ways, but I've decided to. I appreciate that my thought processes are pretty wonky, I'm not used to such an abundance of information. Still getting used to that!

I actually thought the townreads on me were a little weird, considering I haven't been posting much and it looks like I'm happy to slip under the radar and keep my options for a lynch open. I'm not saying that I think people are pocketing me, though.

[Zeito]

I didn't realise TheASC was hammered. Personally I would've liked to keep the doctor claim around to see whether it died during the night, but my read on it wasn't exactly close to town. Doctor does seem like one of the easier claims to make, though.

[scum reading]

I didn't realise TheASC was hammered. Personally I would've liked to keep the doctor claim around to see whether it died during the night, but my read on it wasn't exactly close to town. Doctor does seem like one of the easier claims to make, though.

She wasn’t. Wazoo was.

[Zeito]

URAP's reasoning that scum often greets the entire thread in newbie forum games was... strange, but if it has a proven rate then I'm not going to complain about it. If TheASC has been hammered, I'm going to leave the rest of my posts until after the flip. From there I'll start analysing interactions, either unreasonable pushes if they flip town, or forced defenses if they flip scum. If it does flip scum, I will have some strong town reads on some of the people who pushed it, because bussing day 1 can be pretty catastrophic.

Upon reading SRs reply: I'm happier with that lynch tbh. My point above regarding interactions still stands. "either unreasonable pushes if they flip town, or forced defenses if they flip scum. If it does flip scum, I will have some strong town reads on some of the people who pushed it, because bussing day 1 can be pretty catastrophic."

[scum reading]

URAP's reasoning that scum often greets the entire thread in newbie forum games was... strange, but if it has a proven rate then I'm not going to complain about it. If TheASC has been hammered, I'm going to leave the rest of my posts until after the flip. From there I'll start analysing interactions, either unreasonable pushes if they flip town, or forced defenses if they flip scum. If it does flip scum, I will have some strong town reads on some of the people who pushed it, because bussing day 1 can be pretty catastrophic.

Upon reading SRs reply: I'm happier with that lynch tbh. My point above regarding interactions still stands. "either unreasonable pushes if they flip town, or forced defenses if they flip scum. If it does flip scum, I will have some strong town reads on some of the people who pushed it, because bussing day 1 can be pretty catastrophic."

I know it does work, someone spotted chennisden as scum within his first 4 posts and they lynched him day one. Rvs interactions should be looked into as well and not completely disregarded.

[scum reading]

I believe it was Newbie 1917

[chennisden]

^ yes it was

I intend to go after Persivul tomorrow if GrandWazoo flips town.

[u r a person 2]

it was a hammer

wagon was sr, teacher, me, chenn, pers

was I wrong?

[scum reading]

Mod forgot about the game

[scum reading]

Someone should tag her xD

[u r a person 2]

yeah, it was a hammer

nsg is one of the best, most consistent mods on the site. If she's away, it's not for a lack of caring.

we can cut her some slack this time LOL =P

[scum reading]

Wazoo, were you scum or not man, don't play with us xD

[GrandWazoo]

Why would I lie after I'm dead lol

[scum reading]

Why didn’t you claim knowing that you’d get hammered?

[scum reading]

I mean you didn’t know, but there was this possibility

[GrandWazoo]

It's my understanding that you declare intent to hammer to give time to claim

[GrandWazoo]

Unless ur scum

[u r a person 2]

yeah, waiting for intent before claiming is generally considered good play.

For one, before someone is ready to hammer, there is a chance you won't need to claim.

Second, it forces a final person to commit to voting you, which is good for later VCA.

[scum reading]

This game’s actually pretty hard, scum are doing a good job keeping a low profile