Anime U-Pick: King Size [SEASON FINALE...?]

[Joan of Arc]

obviously

why do you listen to joan

did i admit i fucked up and led us to two mislynches in railgun or not

Did you admit you fucked up in Symphonic Metal Mafia or not?

[Joan of Arc]

Or does that game not count?

[Joan of Arc]

Not Wisdom's fault. Nothing is Wisdom's fault.

[Joan of Arc]

i just want to play the game, joan...

I want to play the game too, without it being fucking ruined by Wisdom's attitude. Did I get that? No.

[Joan of Arc]

@Wisdom Please replace out.

[Joan of Arc]

@Torque

how can i guarantee it
i dont even know if i want to play more mafia after

Look I'm sure weeblord wisdom just really wanted to play this game too and he just cant resist and he apologized for joining the game you're in
go look for wolves, alright

Okay, so if you can't guarantee that he would listen to what I have to say, then how the hell can you expect me to deal with it privately after the game? What if he refuse to acknowledge my post-game posts or respond to my post-game PMs/sitechat messages?

[Joan of Arc]

@Torque

Not Wisdom's fault. Nothing is Wisdom's fault.

i just want to play the game, joan...

I want to play the game too, without it being fucking ruined by Wisdom's attitude. Did I get that? No.

[Joan of Arc]

@Torque Please tell Wisdom to either address my point (you know the one) or replace out.

[Joan of Arc]

I don't know how to respond to those, joan. I'm not a counsellor

Then why are you suggesting I settle this with him post-game when I don't even know if he'd listen to me then?

[Joan of Arc]

At least read that post and tell me with a straight face that his attitude there doesn't make him a self-centered bumpkin.

Not Wisdom's fault. Nothing is Wisdom's fault.

[Joan of Arc]

And the fact that he is still ignoring me is further proof that he is a self-centered bumpkin who can't take constructive criticism of his play.

[Joan of Arc]

Wisdom, if mastina flips town, we'll tell joan we fucked up

joan, if mastina flips wolf, you tell him you fucked up

is that fair

if yes, can we play the game

It is okay by me, but he'll say no, you'll see.

[Joan of Arc]

For the record, if N x M says no to your suggestion, then the entire suggestion is void.

[Joan of Arc]

i already said yes

Where?

[Joan of Arc]

Screw this crap, I am out. >.>

[Joan of Arc]

>.>

If Eisdom wants to intentionally cause another game loss, so be it. I am done. I am goddamn done. T.T

p-edit: That isn't explicit confirmation that you'd tell me, as in ME, that you've fucked up.

[Joan of Arc]

VOTE: mastina

Just so I can end this shitfest and so I'd get to say 'I told you so'. T.T

[Joan of Arc]

I am keeping these quotes just in case Wisdom tries to refuse doing so later on.

Wisdom, if mastina flips town, we'll tell joan we fucked up

joan, if mastina flips wolf, you tell him you fucked up

is that fair

if yes, can we play the game

i already said yes

[Joan of Arc]

I fear mastina will end up convincing people at this rate so the quicker she dies the better

"I want people to quicklynch this vperson before she can convince people she is town, because that's totally the agenda town!me would have"

Yeah, no. If this is town, then wth are they so afraid of another person obtowning?

Either Wisdom wants to buff his ego, or he is scum who is trying to prevent mastina possibly obtowning and surviving, because that would be bad for their team.

Now tell me, which one is more likely?

[Joan of Arc]

VOTE: Near x Mello

They almost duped me into believing they were town, until they made the above post.

[Joan of Arc]

Not only that, but he is voting reading things mastina wrote in depth, because he knows if he were to read them in depth, he'd be forced to admit that she is town and give up on his planned mislynch, and this is not something he can afford to do with two of his teammates dead.

[Joan of Arc]

Why can't you people see this is beyond me......

[Joan of Arc]

Honestly, NxM, I'm sort of willing to just lynch in mastinas pool and lynch her in LYLO if she's wrong.

Why are you ignoring me too?

[Joan of Arc]

Not only that, but he is voting reading things mastina wrote in depth, because he knows if he were to read them in depth, he'd be forced to admit that she is town and give up on his planned mislynch, and this is not something he can afford to do with two of his teammates dead.

I was talking about this, mostly @Cerb

[Joan of Arc]

I understand that you gamethrew Symphonic Metal. That's all I need to understand, cos if you're town here, history is gonna repeat itself.

See, I can even use your emoji for emphasis.

[Joan of Arc]

But then whatever. I'll just oust your partner first.

VOTE: Almos50

Phos says vote here. Please listen to Phos.

[Joan of Arc]

scum are guaranteed to have someone immune to reflexive kills as proven by the dunn kill

I mean, you said the same thing mastina said here, and yet your argue that Almost, who is the best candidate to have that kind of immunity, isn't scum. You're bs-ing.

[Joan of Arc]

Hey, hey, hey



I'm here to mow down your bullshit.

I am a simple kind of person, which makes me impervious to your silly attempts to confound, because I see things exactly as they are.

[Joan of Arc]

Yeah, sounds exactly like someone who agreed to agreed tho admit they derped if mastina flips town would say.

[Joan of Arc]

I am also ill, so this is a prodge.

[Joan of Arc]

V/LA until 20th

[Joan of Arc]

V/LA until 24th

Just to be on the safe side.

[Joan of Arc]

nobody even makes sense as scum with almost
elena? no
chito? no
nobody can be scum with almost

You fit, and ironically, you're trying to use the same logic I did about me, for Almost50, and I feel like I can point out that both of these players have just as much a chance of being scum with Almost50 as I have with being scum with them.

Except im not scum so i still demand a viable scumbuddy for almost if you want me to consider him being scum

So you demand a viable scum for Almost because you think he can't be scum without one, yet you were absolutely certain mastina without finding a viable one for her?

Okay then.

Thanks for proving you are obstinate and hard-headed.

By the way, you're the one who caused this toxic gamestate, not me. Your refusal to listen to someone else's opinion has alienated several people.

P.S: I am responsible for toxic gamestate? Then I'll have you know, mastina is one of the calmer people on the site, and I never saw her flip out like she had here. And the fact that it was you and PB who made her flip off rather than proves that you're far more toxic than I could possibly be.

And one more thing. Your 'holier-than-thou' attitude pisses me off as well. You act like no one's opinion but your own matters. Well, let me tell you something: you aren't. No one is. We are humans and we make mistakes. The difference is that people like me and mastina learn from them, while people like you are satisfied with same old, same old, even when it doesn't work. So forgive me for telling it like it is, Your Highness.

[Joan of Arc]

i said like a million times chito makes sense as a mastina buddy

youre ignoring my posts

Says someone who ignores every single post which provides any reason why they don't work, and any post which doesn't align with or disputes your viewpoint entirely.

Where does it say you're allowed to ignore every post which doesn't fit your view, and others aren't? Do tell me.

[Joan of Arc]

V/LA until 20th

I forgot to bold

[Joan of Arc]

Since when is that attitude charismatic? What you're doing is alienating people, not drawing them in.

[Joan of Arc]

i said like a million times chito makes sense as a mastina buddy

youre ignoring my posts

Says someone who ignores every single post which provides any reason why they don't work, and any post which doesn't align with or disputes your viewpoint entirely.

Where does it say you're allowed to ignore every post which doesn't fit your view, and others aren't? Do tell me.

Also, either respond to this or else. I have gad of ;ignoring me to keep your illusion that you are always right' or whatever. You think mastina is scum? Prove it. Show us why each of the points she made is wrong.

Or, if you can't do it in a broad sense, at least show us why her explanation for why she and Chito aren't scum together is wrong.

[Joan of Arc]

You ignore everything that doesn't align with your thoughts, and then when I call you out on your selfish attitude, you call me stupid/toxic/some variation thereof.

Well, guess what? Ignoring everyone who disagrees with you in the slightest IS selfish no matter which angle you look at it from. You know this. Everyone knows this. So quit trying to pretend your behavior somehow benefits town when it only benefits yourself.

How many times have you caused mislynches as opposed to actually catching scum? I bet the ratio is 2:1.

[Joan of Arc]

im ignoring you because responding to you adds toxicity to the game

ive tried reasoning with you multiple times but you are biased and nothing i ever say will make you see things in a different light, so its not worth it

be patient until the end of the game as i am trying to be, and then we dont have to deal with each other anymore

How about you admit you were wrong in Symphonic Metal Mafia? If you admit you were wrong there, in addition to deal we already established, then I'll back off.

But not until you admit that you were wrong there.

[Joan of Arc]

Wisdom

> alienates everyone with their attitude
> says I'm making the game toxic

[Joan of Arc]

im ignoring you because responding to you adds toxicity to the game

ive tried reasoning with you multiple times but you are biased and nothing i ever say will make you see things in a different light, so its not worth it

be patient until the end of the game as i am trying to be, and then we dont have to deal with each other anymore

Oh, and this doesn't explain why do you ignore points made by other which dispute your reads.

For instance, you ignored every single post made by mastina which explains why she can't be scum with Chito slot.

[Joan of Arc]

And the reason you don't respond to that and similar posts is because you cannot find any reasonable counter-point.

Next you say 'but Joan is wrong. I never did any of this."

When your ISO is full of either repeating the same statements over and over again with little to no explanation, or ignoring any evidence which proves that your reads might be wrong.

Then, when you are proven wrong, you try to twist the facts so that you are blameless. Case in point: SN lynch

Now either find a scumteam which fits and isn't disputed by any of the points made by the players who aren't you or me, or God help me, I will go full on mastina.

Any punishment would be worth it if it knocks you down off a peg or two, or if it makes you get off your high horse and reconsider.

[Joan of Arc]

I never should have let it go. I should have WoTCed you on the spot. I will not make that mistake again. I foolishly believed that you would stop tunneling, but I guess that neither me nor the fact that your reads were wrong more often than not would ever stop you from tunneling.

p-edit: Okay. *sigh* Guess I have to treat Wisdom as scumhunting God even if it loses us the game and pretend none of his actions or reads were wrong at all postgame, I guess.

[Joan of Arc]

Wisdom

> alienates everyone with their attitude
> says I'm making the game toxic

He didn't say you make the game toxic, he said that replying to you would make the game more toxic, and he's right Joan. You're attitute towards Wisdom is pretty much bullying at this point.

He broke the agreement, so excuse me for disliking the fact that he joined the game I've been looking forward for two years just to ruin it for me. >.<

[Joan of Arc]

It's like what happened many times in the past too. I see the game I like and I try to join, only to have people kick me out.

It's the same thing here, just reversed.

p-edit: He is actively playing anti-town at this point, and I am trying to make him see sense. He says I don't see things in different light, when he is guilty of that just as much as I am.

[Joan of Arc]

You won't be the one to "make him see sense", trust me.

The problem is that nobody will, because nobody is even trying.

[Joan of Arc]

You won't be the one to "make him see sense", trust me.

And of course I won't, but I can knock him down a peg or two, like I said. Then he might reconsider and see what he is doing wrong by himself.

I am not trying to force him to change, I am trying to inspire him to do it himself.

[Joan of Arc]

Wisdom

> alienates everyone with their attitude
> says I'm making the game toxic

He didn't say you make the game toxic, he said that replying to you would make the game more toxic, and he's right Joan. You're attitute towards Wisdom is pretty much bullying at this point.

And his attitude towards us isn't? You said it yourself, he called everyone who disagrees with him in any way an 'idiot' or 'dumb', and he meant it. And that's no way to treat people if they won't listen to you. I even tried mimicking his attitude to show him how nasty it really is, and he still kept it up like nothing happened.

He might be satisfied with his style, no matter how many losses it causes, but others aren't, and he needs to adapt if he wants anyone to listen. Repeating things over and over again without actually explaining his stance is not sufficient for getting the lynch you want. Believe me, I've tried doing it that way and was laughed at, while he gets a free pass for doing it, which isn't fair, mind you. Also, people admitting you got it wrong afterwards rather than charging ahead blindly as if they've done nothing wrong would make them more likeable and thus others would listen to them more.

[Joan of Arc]

Chito: Mastina, your arguments for A50 scum kinda ignore the things that make him town.

N x M's arguments for why mastina's scum kinda ignore the things than make her town, and I don't see anyone calling them out regarding that, except me.

[Joan of Arc]

and mastina herself

[Joan of Arc]

cerb, amz, we need you

Don't you dare listen to this Cerb. If you hammer her now, I really won't like you anymore.

[Joan of Arc]

He isn't even trying over and over and over and over again, and expects all of you to follow blindly. If you give in to his demands like this, then you're not as logical as I thought you were.

[Joan of Arc]

He was all over Chito or Elena yesterday, yet as soon as Almost50 came in swinging, he jumped back onto mastina, abandoning his Chito/Elena scumread on the spot. It was as if he was waiting for someone to provide justification why his preferred mislynch was scum, which Almos50 did.

Don't do as scum wishes.

[Joan of Arc]

you know someone is scum when theyre trying to exploit joan's issues to their liking

And now he digs he digs at my ability to successfully find scum

Cool story, bro

[Joan of Arc]

im tired of this gamestate

i want the red mastina flip and joan to shut up

Well, what if you don't get either?

[Joan of Arc]

:

[Joan of Arc]

im tired of this gamestate

i want the red mastina flip and joan to shut up

Well, what if you don't get either?

[Joan of Arc]

If we were scum together, I'd just let him do as he pleases and let him shift the blame elsewhere if mastina flips green, rather than demand that he doesn't.

[Joan of Arc]

I don't know Joan, you seem to be 100% sure that mastina is town and you're harassing me for scumreading her. The only explanation I've got for being so sure about that is that you're scum and mastina is town. And Wisdom townreading you makes me believe he's your partner. Isn't that what you wanted? That I agreed with you on town!mastina?

90% sure, also I keep saying 'if'. Thank you.

[Joan of Arc]

I don't know Joan, you seem to be 100% sure that mastina is town and you're harassing me for scumreading her. The only explanation I've got for being so sure about that is that you're scum and mastina is town. And Wisdom townreading you makes me believe he's your partner. Isn't that what you wanted? That I agreed with you on town!mastina?

90% sure, also I keep saying 'if'. Thank you.

Harassing someone because of a 90% sure read? You don't sound like having a 90% sure read on mastina.

You're welcome.

[Joan of Arc]

Vote mastina win a prize, vote mastina win a prize.

For real, vote mastina. Or A50. But if you vote outside these two, the suffering will continue till the end. If mastina or A50 aren't lynched today, I'm going to replace out too, and this is not a warning or a threat to make you act in a way or another, it's just a fact that I can't keep handling Joan's harassment in our Channel.

If mastina flips green, that would continue. If she flips red, I will only post memes from D5 onwards.

This is a promise.

[Joan of Arc]

I don't care if you keep harassing me if mastina flips green, at least we would've lynched mastina already and know what the hell is going on with other slots. But your harassment without mastina's flip is unjustified, and saying you're doing it on purpose ("if mastina flips green, that would continue", implying you're deliberately doing it) shows the kind of person you are, Joan.

No, it only shows what kind of person Wisdom is. I said twice that I am acting like him on purpose.

[Joan of Arc]

Or do you claim you know my real life persona well enough to know that my behavior online isn't an act?

[Joan of Arc]

That shows even more the kind of person you are. Act that way towards Wisdom, not a third guy who has nothing to do with your beef with him.

Then don't tell me to stop 'bullying' him ever again.

[Joan of Arc]

But what happened to this?

I don't care if you keep harassing me if mastina flips green.

[Joan of Arc]

I am tired of this shizz, so I will not allow these to drag out any longer and give me more headaches.

VOTE: mastina

Sorry, mastina, I have tried.

[Joan of Arc]

ew
if mastina is actually town ill def reconsider joan

No, you don't. I've tried hard to talk everyone out of this, and no one listened, especially not you. And now that you got your wish, you're suddenly willing to reconsider. Hell no. You made your bed, now lie in it.

[Joan of Arc]

i meant ill reconsider my townread on you
elena/you is actually plausible

You really expect me to believe that after you've been ignoring anyone who said mastina could be town, and her own reasons why she is town, you finally consider she could be town after someone else hammered?

Yeah, no.

You're just gunning for your next mislynch. You were preparing to scumread whoever hammers her all along.

[Joan of Arc]

@Chito Sure. What cemented my townread on her slot was this post in particular

Who else is there

If mastina is scum, you're never flipping scum, a50 is never flipping scum
joan isn't scum, pink ball is lock, reasonably psychotic got blocked by robert
what, that just leaves elena and chito yuuri
if mastina flips scum this game is on lock

That's the fucking problem.

YOU JUST FUCKING OUTLINED WHY I AM TOWN.

I am fucking advocating for Elena's fucking lynch.
You fucking just GAVE reasons why Chito and Yuuri aren't scum.

YOU GAVE REASONS WHY THE TWO FUCKING PEOPLE I "COULD" BE SCUM WITH AREN'T FUCKING SCUM.

SO IF THEY AREN'T FUCKING SCUM.
AND THEY AREN'T MY FUCKING SCUMBUDDIES AS A RESULT.
AND THEY ARE THE ONLY POSSIBLE SCUMBUDDIES FOR ME.

WHAT THE FUCK.
IS THE OBVIOUS FUCKING CONCLUSION FROM THAT, TORQUE?

[Joan of Arc]

Then why say this?

ew
if mastina is actually town ill def reconsider joan

[Joan of Arc]

Also, you want to communicate? Fine. Then tell me why her arguments for why she is town in this post - the one you also ignored earlier - are wrong

Who else is there

If mastina is scum, you're never flipping scum, a50 is never flipping scum
joan isn't scum, pink ball is lock, reasonably psychotic got blocked by robert
what, that just leaves elena and chito yuuri
if mastina flips scum this game is on lock

That's the fucking problem.

YOU JUST FUCKING OUTLINED WHY I AM TOWN.

I am fucking advocating for Elena's fucking lynch.
You fucking just GAVE reasons why Chito and Yuuri aren't scum.

YOU GAVE REASONS WHY THE TWO FUCKING PEOPLE I "COULD" BE SCUM WITH AREN'T FUCKING SCUM.

SO IF THEY AREN'T FUCKING SCUM.
AND THEY AREN'T MY FUCKING SCUMBUDDIES AS A RESULT.
AND THEY ARE THE ONLY POSSIBLE SCUMBUDDIES FOR ME.

WHAT THE FUCK.
IS THE OBVIOUS FUCKING CONCLUSION FROM THAT, TORQUE?

[Joan of Arc]

Because your vote on her does not fit your read on her
You did the same as scum in Danganronpa like almost said

I didn't vote because I changed my read on her. I voted because I have had enough of this whole thing, and want to publicly shame you and PB and everyone else who ever scumread her, in the event that she flips town.

That's why I voted her. Because I am a vindictive little ball of shizz who wants to feel vindicated one way or another. If she flips scum, hooray, we got scum. If she doesn't, I get to rub it in that I was right and you weren't.

Comprende?

[Joan of Arc]

Because elena, chito and even you all make sense as her buddies

Her saying "they dont make sense as my buddies" doesnt make it so

And you saying 'she is scum' doesn't make it so either.

[Joan of Arc]

Not to mention you villify her and others for some of the things you yourself kept doing. For instance, earlier you accused me of ignoring your points, while ignoring all of her valid points for why she is town. You know what we call it in my corner in the world? A hypocrite.

p-edit: The post you just made further proves you are a hypocrite.

[Joan of Arc]

Because your vote on her does not fit your read on her
You did the same as scum in Danganronpa like almost said

I didn't vote because I changed my read on her. I voted because I have had enough of this whole thing, and want to publicly shame you and PB and everyone else who ever scumread her, in the event that she flips town.

That's why I voted her. Because I am a vindictive little ball of shizz who wants to feel vindicated one way or another. If she flips scum, hooray, we got scum. If she doesn't, I get to rub it in that I was right and you weren't.

Comprende?

Also, you missed this

[Joan of Arc]

Not to mention you villify her and others for some of the things you yourself kept doing. For instance, earlier you accused me of ignoring your points, while ignoring all of her valid points for why she is town. You know what we call it in my corner in the world? A hypocrite.

p-edit: The post you just made further proves you are a hypocrite.

[Joan of Arc]

Take a look guys. The story is the same, I had a deathtunnel on Kokichi, and Mavis (Joan) was telling me I am so bad for my tunnel and stuff, only to vote him and go "I don't scumread him but I'll get to bully you for being wrong"

Joan was scum.

Subject: Danganronpa V3 Upick! Game over!

I am not lynching Kokichi today, unless you give me a good argument as to why I should.

You'll see first hand how much Yume improved when day 2 arrives. But know this, if Kokichi flips town, anyone and everyone who scumread him has a one-way ticket to my scumpile.

VOTE: Kokichi

And don't give me crap about how townies could be wrong and still be town, because if they weren't sure they were right, they would re-evaluate.

Conclusion, if you are not that sure, you'd re-evaluate. If you are that sure and it turns out you were wrong, Yume would make you pay for your unnatural confidence.

Says that mastina is using a worthless self-meta to defend herself, then uses 'worthless' meta to read me.

[Joan of Arc]

UNVOTE:

If this is true, I can still save her, so bring it on.

[Joan of Arc]

do you deny you did the same thing youre doing here there? voting your supposed townread with an intent to gloat about being right? how is this worthless?

Different games, different players. The only common link between two are you and me.

[Joan of Arc]

do you deny you did the same thing youre doing here there? voting your supposed townread with an intent to gloat about being right? how is this worthless?

You deserve it for not backing down in the first place, and for ignoring evidence that she could be town.

[Joan of Arc]

Maybe this will teach you to not tunnel so often. >.<

[Joan of Arc]

Though I doubt it. You have no doubt failed to lynch scum countless of times, all because you were blindsided and could only focus on the targets of your tunnels, and lost many games as a result. If none of those losses had made you realize that maybe you should stop tunneling, then I certainly won't.

[Joan of Arc]

ok i think your defense is bad so i dont think theres any merit in continuing this

And again, you drop the conversation immediately before I can say something that can really shake you up? Notice the pattern, anyone?

[Joan of Arc]

Though I doubt it. You have no doubt failed to lynch scum countless of times, all because you were blindsided and could only focus on the targets of your tunnels, and lost many games as a result. If none of those losses had made you realize that maybe you should stop tunneling, then I certainly won't.

[Joan of Arc]

i mean, your defense to "these actions are identical to actions you took as scum" is "different players"

how are the players relevant, joan? we are talking about you and your actions. In response to a push of mine. Nothing to do with other players.

I will not say anything regarding this, because you'd just ignore me anyway, and also because I want to show you how it feels when you're the one being ignored for a change.

[Joan of Arc]

also please stop with the whole "you are ignoring me because you cant answer"

i can answer to every single word you say and im sure you know that by now

i am actively choosing not to because we are in a mafia game and nobody cares to watch us fighting

Is this something someone would say to their own scumread?

[Joan of Arc]

do you wanna know how it feels? like you know im right and are using a silly excuse to avoid answering to the case that condemns you.

You're doing the same thing, avoiding answering any post made by mastina or anyone else which townfirms her.

Again, why only say this now?

[Joan of Arc]

i said it as soon as you voted mastina and I was reminded of danganronpa

And that's further proof you've been ignoring me. I've voted her in a similar fashion once before. Why weren't you reminded back then? Why now, specifically?

Still, it's nice to know that you aren't ignoring me anymore. If that's what it takes for you to stop ignoring me, maybe I should do this more often.

[Joan of Arc]

So I am scum because I gave up? You know that there was no way I could have convinced you or anyone else that she could be town, right? So why I am scum for finally admitting it won't happen?

[Joan of Arc]

Well, this is not the case now. I am not doing it on purpose this time around. I am doing it because I have given up, as none of you would listen to me or her. There is a difference between doing it deliberately and doing it because you have given up.

[Joan of Arc]

ok.

different question now. the whole playerlist bar you and maybe elena is voting or about to vote mastina. All of these players have played with mastina before (not including the almost replacement, think of almost as representing that slot). Do you think all of these people are bad and unable to read mastina? Why are you holding on to your mastina townread that strongly and bullying everyone who thinks otherwise? Why not think that maybe she's actually scum?

And please don't give me a "no u" answer here.

I think they are not bad as much as lazy. The only reason they scumread mastina is because they're too lazy to read and analyze every single post she has made in its entirety.

[Joan of Arc]

There, I answered your question. Will you answer mine now?

[Joan of Arc]

Why are you so insistent that mastina is scum to the point of ignoring anyone who disagrees with you?

[Joan of Arc]

And don't say you don't. You are ignoring me and mastina, the main dissenters to your case, and you're manipulating the replacement into voting her before he can make a decision of who he scumreads or doesn't scumread on his own.

[Joan of Arc]

Besides, you want me to scumread and vote her, yet when I did that, you immediately scumread me for it. Which means it's 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' scenario. I defend her? You ignore me. I say 'fuck it' and vote her? You scumread me.

[Joan of Arc]

Furthermore, she is a townread. You saying I should just let my townread get lynched without even trying to defend them? :/

[Joan of Arc]

im not ignoring anyone who disagrees with me. When chito disagreed with my reads in channel5 i discussed them with him. same for almost, same for torque, cerb, everyone.

i am ignoring you, specifically. why? because your townread on mastina is baseless. you just quote her posts and say "this is town" with no reasoning as to why that is, leaving me to assume that you are either townreading the effort she is putting in (not alignment indicative), the length of her posts (not alignment indicative), or the ate in her posts (not alignment indicative, more scum if anything). Or, even worse, you are just "townreading" her because I am pushing her and you want to be contrary to me due to personal dislike.

therefore, i cant but ignore you and focus my efforts in talking with people who actually will listen to reason

What reason? What 'reason' did you give? All I saw is you repeating over and over 'she is scum', never once explaining why or bothering to quote the parts of her posts you think are scummy and explain why those parts are scummy.

[Joan of Arc]

Furthermore, she is a townread. You saying I should just let my townread get lynched without even trying to defend them? :/

no, im all for defending townreads.
But when every other person in the game is telling you your townread is wrong, maybe you should consider it's wrong.
Have you done that once?

I was willing to do it if just one person explained to me why she is scum in clear, concise words. But no one did that.

[Joan of Arc]

Furthermore, she is a townread. You saying I should just let my townread get lynched without even trying to defend them? :/

no, im all for defending townreads.
But when every other person in the game is telling you your townread is wrong, maybe you should consider it's wrong.
Have you done that once?

I was willing to do it if just one person explained to me why she is scum in clear, concise words. But no one did that.

Not you, not Cerb, not PB, no one.

It didn't even have to be you. It could have been any of the remaining players, I would have reconsidered. But all I got was silence, despite asking repeatedly for it.

[Joan of Arc]

You claim mastina shouldn't be town just because she says she is, and that just because she says Chito or Elena aren't her scumbuddies doesn't make it so, yet your reasoning for why she is scum is essentially 'because I say she is'.

[Joan of Arc]

So guess what? I don't give a damn anymore. I asked for simple reasoning for why she is scum that I could understand, but all I got was crickets.

Therefore, I just don't care anymore.

[Joan of Arc]

Mastina: "Almost is scum because he said he would talk to Drixx on D4/D5 and Drixx died

What's wrong with this reasoning? It's a pretty reasonable stance from where I stand.

[Joan of Arc]

you're manipulating the replacement into voting her before he can make a decision of who he scumreads or doesn't scumread on his own.

ill give you this, you are right here. normally id want the replacement to make the decision on their own.

however, not in this gamestate. we are finally about to get the lynch ive wanted forever and the main other person who wants this lynch suddenly replaces out and is replaced by someone who unvotes. i cannot really accept this. i just want the lynch to happen.

besides, im so certain almost is town that there isnt really much i want to see from the replacement. i just want him to not be dumb and not make the scum lynch take longer.

Again, this post is essentially 'she is scum because I say so and if he is given time to conclude otherwise, my plan will fail'.

Furtheremore, you want me to ask myself 'what if she is scum', but I haven't seen you ask yourself 'what if she is town? what if I am wrong?' and create some sort of back-up plan for that scenario.

[Joan of Arc]

I haven't seen you ask yourself 'what if she is town? what if I am wrong?' and create some sort of back-up plan for that scenario.

You are wrong. A few pages back I considered mastina could be town and was considering chito/elena and chito/RP scumteams. You know that because you mentioned it yourself.

Then why abandon your scumread on Chito/Elena so easily? You seem awfully inconsistent here for someone who is that sure of your own scumreads. So 'fess up.

[Joan of Arc]

Mastina: "Almost is scum because he said he would talk to Drixx on D4/D5 and Drixx died

What's wrong with this reasoning? It's a pretty reasonable stance from where I stand.

I don't see anything reasonable in there. Drixx could have died due to a thousand reasons, most notably for his counterclaim on Vedith. Yet mastina connected it to Almost for stupid reasons like the quoted.

Do you deny Drixx scumread Almost?
Do you deny Almost said it to him?
Do you deny Almost could have killed him to prevent that talk because he knew he couldn't get out of it?

It is a perfectly reasonable stance and it is a simple explanation too. You're doing essentially what you accuse mastina of doing: stretching facts to fit your arguments and making the simple observation more convoluted than it could be. Rather than consider that Almost might have killed Drixx, you flat-out deny the possibility.

[Joan of Arc]

Your whole modus operandi is 'hammer onto the things which strengthen my arguments, while ignore things that don't'. You even admitted to that:

therefore, what i do is only respond to things that i feel are manipulative enough to convince people, so i can combat them. the rest i can ignore.

[Joan of Arc]

I haven't seen you ask yourself 'what if she is town? what if I am wrong?' and create some sort of back-up plan for that scenario.

You are wrong. A few pages back I considered mastina could be town and was considering chito/elena and chito/RP scumteams. You know that because you mentioned it yourself.

Then why abandon your scumread on Chito/Elena so easily? You seem awfully inconsistent here for someone who is that sure of your own scumreads. So 'fess up.

Because mastina is scummy and has to die. If she flips town, I can return to these alternative thoughts then.

No. No. No. If mastina flips town, you would fucking admit you were fucking wrong like you agreed to before doing anything else.

Or did you think I would forget? Well, I didn't.

[Joan of Arc]

It is a perfectly reasonable stance and it is a simple explanation too.

no it really isnt, it's a load of bullshit. people dont die because almost cant respond to something.

the fact you believe it isnt shows we have completely different metrics and thus we cannot communicate.

Yeah, we do. I can admit I am wrong when I am proven wrong. While you insist you are right even after proven wrong. That's the difference between us.

[Joan of Arc]

Also,, what happened to this?

and if we lynch mastina and she's actually town, we both fucked up, ok, wisdom?

obviously

You were never gonna honor this, were you? You would have come up with some excuse as to why you won't do it, wouldn't you?

[Joan of Arc]

We could lynch Joan first, I'm fine with that alternative

'WE COULD LYNCH SOMEONE WHO DARED RETALIATE AFTER I CALLED THEM DUMB, I AM FINE WITH THAT BS.'

[Joan of Arc]

I AM THE PRESIDENT OF CHINA, SO WHAT I SAY GOES. LISTEN TO ME, GODDAMIT, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T, BAD THINGS MIGHT ACTUALLY HAPPEN. SO LYNCH MASTINA, AND IF SHE FLIPS TOWN, THEN IT'S NOT MY FAULT, NOT AT ALL, BAAAAA!

[Joan of Arc]

AND TO THOSE THAT DARE RESIST THIS RIGHTEOUS LYNCH, WE WILL SHAME THEM IN PUBLIC BY CLAIMING THEY HAVE NO BRAINS WHATSOEVER AND THE FACT THAT THEY ACTUALLY FOUND SCUM DOESN'T MATTER AT ALL!

[Joan of Arc]

COS THIS IS THE START OF ANTI-JOAN CAMPAIGN LED BY ME, PINK BALL, AND MY ASSOCIATES, THE NEAR X MELLO ACCOUNT.

[Joan of Arc]

All right, now I got it out of my system. Toodles.

[Joan of Arc]

See you on 24th.

[Joan of Arc]

@Cerb So much for you liking me.....

[Joan of Arc]

@Cerb So much for you liking me.....

? Did I miss you saying something I needed to respond to?

......

Never mind, then.

[Joan of Arc]

Chito: I guess from that ate joan no longer says she becomes a treestump if lynched?

I gave that power up a long time ago.

[Joan of Arc]

I am BP now. It's my reward for doing what I did.

[Joan of Arc]

That's my roleclaim, by the way.

[Joan of Arc]

I am BP now. It's my reward for doing what I did.

heres an alternative explanation for who killed dunn

[Joan of Arc]

If I were scum, you would have died a long time ago, because I can't stand you.

[Joan of Arc]

Nice try, though.

[Joan of Arc]

The significance of that video is that I feel like the main character of that show in regards to this game. I try to make people reconsider and become better people, but all I accomplish is annoying them.

[Joan of Arc]

Watch the greatest show in the universum.



The day I met your father, now with extra gayness!

Don't miss it!

[Joan of Arc]

He is right, you know. Giving him no explanation and then wanting him to read your mind in order to see what you want him to see is unproductive.....

[Joan of Arc]

[Joan of Arc]

Quite frankly, I am gonna talk to mastina only from now on. The rest of you can do whatever you want.

[Joan of Arc]

I feel like the title character in this episode

[Joan of Arc]

Well, since she is not around, there is no reason for me to be around either, so I'll just have a date with my own bed instead. Bye, schmocks.

P.S: Please don't think I am being mean to you, mastina. I know how it is to be sick, so get better asap.

[Joan of Arc]

I don't wanna say 'I told you so', but I told you so. D:

[Joan of Arc]

VOTE: Near x Mello

I have my eye on you.

[Joan of Arc]

@Wisdom The only way I can forgive you is if you admit you fucked up. Anything less than that would be treated as a scumclaim, from me to you.

[Joan of Arc]

I am still BP, yo. There, that's your fullclaim.

[Joan of Arc]

Come on, everyone, are you really gonna let someone who scumread mastina live?

[Joan of Arc]

Also, I wanted you to stop blaming other people for your own errors i n judgment, and what do you do? Either blame others or pretend that you never made a mistake, that's what. >.>

[Joan of Arc]

Let's just kill Joan please, I don't even give a fuck if you're both the scumteam at this point

>.>

[Joan of Arc]

thats not a full claim. Claim everything your role had.

Only if you stop pretending that you never made a mistake, okay?

[Joan of Arc]

I have it typed up and ready to go, but I am tired of you pretending you've done nothing wrong and everyone else is to blame, like you did in SM mafia.

[Joan of Arc]

The ability to shatter myself, making me a tree-stump for a day in exchange for becoming BP.

[Joan of Arc]

i said i fucked up

Yeah, and you immediately went on pretending you're still right despite that. I mean, you were wrong on mastina, so what makes you think you are right regarding me or Chito or anyone else for that matter?

You're full of hot air, you mislynched more town than you have lynched scum this game, and you somehow still think you're a good scumhunter?

Well, here is a reality check for you: my little finger is a better scumhunter than you this game. I was able to figure out that mastina is town based on her points. You couldn't even do that. You couldn't even consider that she could be town. And even if you did consider her to be town, you would rather mislynch her than let go of your pride.

[Joan of Arc]

not a full claim

VOTE: joan

You're not being helpful here. Rather than tell me what else to include, you vote me immediately.

[Joan of Arc]

not a full claim

VOTE: joan

It is. That and my BP are literally everything there is to my role.

Unless you want me to include something that doesn't exist, I don't see what more do you want.

[Joan of Arc]

torque tracked you to cerb last night

explain

Okay, I will: He lied.

[Joan of Arc]

Like, you call yourself a competent scumhunter, yet the possibility that someone could be lying never even occurred to you?

Why am I wasting my time talking to you again......?

p-edit: It does. N1, I've uncovered the ability to be shattered (become a treestump for a day) if lynched. N2 I've uncovered the ability to force-shatter myself. N3, I became bulletproof as a result of being shattered.

[Joan of Arc]

And so people come out of woodwork to play, knowing that mastina is no longer there to tear their bs arguments to shreds. Well, guess what, I still am, and I will continue her campaign of decimating the bs in her name.

[Joan of Arc]

ok why are you not voting torque

Because in your own words, I need to get more dangerous scum out of the way first, and that's you.

[Joan of Arc]

that makes no sense. torque is confscum to you, im not

It makes sense from where I stand.

But if it makes you feel better, fine.

VOTE: Torque

Will you bus?

[Joan of Arc]

that makes no sense. torque is confscum to you, im not

Well, you hard-cored scumreading mastina without considering she could be town made no sense either.

[Joan of Arc]

Chito: looks like torque has not voted yet so this is l-2

VOTE: joan

So you believe he isn't lying?

[Joan of Arc]

Chito: looks like torque has not voted yet so this is l-2

VOTE: joan

So you believe he isn't lying?

[Joan of Arc]

Chito: joan Are you asking if I think Torque is scum or not? Because between you and Torque, yeah I think it is you. Unless you think Torque is lying as town as like a reaction test?

Why do you think he cannot be scum who is lying?

[Joan of Arc]

Chito: joan Are you asking if I think Torque is scum or not? Because between you and Torque, yeah I think it is you. Unless you think Torque is lying as town as like a reaction test?

Why do you think he cannot be scum who is lying?

Chito: cause you pushing nxm while in a mech 1v1 is exactly how you played story revisited when you had a parity cop guilty on you

Okay, people say past games don't count when it comes to certain things, yet at the same time they use past games to read me because screw logic.

[Joan of Arc]

Torque is lying =.=

[Joan of Arc]

Again, why do you use meta to read me? Use this game to read me. If I have to read people based on this game only, then by golly, so do the rest of you. >.>

[Joan of Arc]

Again, why do you use meta to read me? Use this game to read me. If I have to read people based on this game only, then by golly, so do the rest of you. >.>

Chito: Just to be clear you want to sit and wait to give this a week and another night, right Wisdom? Why exactly do you want to give Joan a night?

Because Torque is lying scum, that's why.

[Joan of Arc]

Or better yet, why are you allowed to read other people based on meta and I'm not? What makes you so special?

[Joan of Arc]

Or better yet, why are you allowed to read other people based on meta and I'm not? What makes you so special?

Chito: There is a difference between saying "you seem similar to a scum game where you made similar strategic decisions and had similar reactions to mechanical results" and "anyone who considers the possibility mastina is scum is a terrible person and you should feel ashamed", fyi.

One of those things is an inference based on past behavior, the other is an emotional threat and an uninteresting argument.

Well, for someone who uses meta so well, why didn't you do your job?

mastina literally listed plenty of games where she was both town and scum, yet none of you bothered to read those and tie them to her behavior in this game?

Same question for the rest of you still alive.

[Joan of Arc]

VOTE: NL

All right then, if you are gonna continue being idiots, then fine.

[Joan of Arc]

Do you make a habit of 100% believing anyone and everyone who just randomly says something, by the way?

[Joan of Arc]

joan if youre town here you really have to stop talking

you make your position worse and the likelihood we'll consider torque scum tiny

Can't. If I stop talking entirely, I'll be force-replaced.

[Joan of Arc]

joan if youre town here you really have to stop talking

you make your position worse and the likelihood we'll consider torque scum tiny

Can't. If I stop talking entirely, I'll be force-replaced.

Not to mention that none of you will ever say I've played well at this point and will keep saying my play is 'disgusting', and I can't abide that, sorry.

[Joan of Arc]

you can post in youtube hq, cant you?

Please clarify.

[Joan of Arc]

Clarify what you meant with that last comment

joan if youre town here you really have to stop talking

you make your position worse and the likelihood we'll consider torque scum tiny

Can't. If I stop talking entirely, I'll be force-replaced.

Not to mention that none of you will ever say I've played well at this point and will keep saying my play is 'disgusting', and I can't abide that, sorry.

And also answer this, if you could, ty, ty.

[Joan of Arc]

my play is disgusting

What makes you think you can say that while still having the moral high ground? Saying that is a form of harassment too. Or do you genuinely believe I won't be upset by those words, hm?

[Joan of Arc]

dunno, what do you think i meant

I think your play is lame.

[Joan of Arc]

VOTE: Near x Mello

Let's do this. You get a free win if you do this regardless of circumstances. ^^

[Joan of Arc]

Well, it is true.

[Joan of Arc]

lol

And now you're trying to make me back off by 'lol'-ing at me, despite the fact you didn't when I did the same. Well, guess what? I ain't backing down either.

[Joan of Arc]

i should just lynch you and blame you if you flip town like every sane person would do

but no, im accounting for you being terrible because i dont want to lose this game

and thats what i get

And here goes "blame others for my own fuck-up" stance.

[Joan of Arc]

in simpler terms

im the only one who doesnt want your lynch here, joan. Do you realise that?

Says someone who scumread me since before mastina's flip.

Try telling that to someone else, k?

[Joan of Arc]

Like i dont fucking care if you call me joan's buddg or what

I refuse to believe scum joan can fake this much stupidity so consistently

What is stupid about saying that you scumread me even before mastina's flip? I have quotes that prove you did.

[Joan of Arc]

Like i dont fucking care if you call me joan's buddg or what

I refuse to believe scum joan can fake this much stupidity so consistently

What is stupid about saying that you scumread me even before mastina's flip? I have quotes that prove you did.

quotes from your own ISO.

[Joan of Arc]

ctually, screw it, here are all the relevant posts

Take a look guys. The story is the same, I had a deathtunnel on Kokichi, and Mavis (Joan) was telling me I am so bad for my tunnel and stuff, only to vote him and go "I don't scumread him but I'll get to bully you for being wrong"

Joan was scum.

Subject: Danganronpa V3 Upick! Game over!

I am not lynching Kokichi today, unless you give me a good argument as to why I should.

You'll see first hand how much Yume improved when day 2 arrives. But know this, if Kokichi flips town, anyone and everyone who scumread him has a one-way ticket to my scumpile.

VOTE: Kokichi

And don't give me crap about how townies could be wrong and still be town, because if they weren't sure they were right, they would re-evaluate.

Conclusion, if you are not that sure, you'd re-evaluate. If you are that sure and it turns out you were wrong, Yume would make you pay for your unnatural confidence.

do you deny you did the same thing youre doing here there? voting your supposed townread with an intent to gloat about being right? how is this worthless?

ok i think your defense is bad so i dont think theres any merit in continuing this

i mean, your defense to "these actions are identical to actions you took as scum" is "different players"

how are the players relevant, joan? we are talking about you and your actions. In response to a push of mine. Nothing to do with other players.

do you wanna know how it feels? like you know im right and are using a silly excuse to avoid answering to the case that condemns you.

i said it as soon as you voted mastina and I was reminded of danganronpa

Wisdom was also Town in the game where I SR Joan for the weird association with Alisae, and he (Wisdom) defended her hard. She was scum with Ali as I had pointed out on D1 in that game.

this post by almost made me remember danganronpa

before that i didnt even remember having played with scum you so i had stupidly written you off as town

thats not my case

my case is that youve made the exact same thing as scum

if you had a reason to do it then, you have a reason to do it now

Besides, you want me to scumread and vote her, yet when I did that, you immediately scumread me for it. Which means it's 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' scenario. I defend her? You ignore me. I say 'fuck it' and vote her? You scumread me.

Once again, I scumread you for your vote because it's the exact same thing you've done in the past as scum.

If you reconsidered and accepted mastina could be scum, and voted her for that instead of things like "i will get to gloat" then I wouldnt scumread you.

its either mastina/elena or joan/elena

it aint that hard, everyone else is town

I am BP now. It's my reward for doing what I did.

heres an alternative explanation for who killed dunn

Nah. Arguing with me gives you things to post about, plus ive been stubbornly townreading you. Without me youd lurk.

You didnt kill me in Danganronpa either.

i mean, joan claimed bp
could easily just be joan who killed
but elena is still scum regardless

i think joan claimed bp to save elena maybe

I am BP now. It's my reward for doing what I did.

Joan claimed it right after chito caught the mech thing

I can see it as trying to lure suspicion from elena onto her

Making mastina loved could be an attempt to buddy mastina, it does not necessarily point to being partners.

Joan's BP claim right after Chito caught the mech thing is more damning. It looks like she wanted to save Elena by attracting attention to herself.

Either way, it's one of them.

yep i did fuck up. But you are 100% scum via poe at this point, with your buddy being most likely chito

pink joan is scum like 99% of the time here, i agree

but its also mylo. If torque is fakeclaiming a guilty game is over. Dont you think we should play it safe and massclaim?

not a full claim

VOTE: joan

torque tracked you to cerb last night

explain

Yet you are suddenly saying you don't want me lynched?

[Joan of Arc]

ok im sincerely speechless if you turn out to be town honestly believing these things you just wrote

like, fucking unbelievable

So you deny writing any of those quotes?

What is fucking unbelievable is that you are pretending you never wrote out any of these, especially since each of them are clickable, meaning that anyone could click on them and be taken to the real thing, proving they do exist.

[Joan of Arc]

Joan, once again. Everyone wants to lynch you. I am the only one considering that Torque might be scum faking the guilty on you. Are you sure fighting me is what you should be doing right now?

Then how do you explain all I those things I quoted? Do tell.

[Joan of Arc]

The way I see it, scum are among you, Chito and Torque.

[Joan of Arc]

Take note, people, it's only when Wisdom is insulted that it's despicable, but when he does the insulting or when he lets other people do the insulting without interfering, it's totally kosher.

[Joan of Arc]

you can insult me as much as you like

i still will do whats best for the town's chances

Like being responsible for several town deaths this game?

[Joan of Arc]

really? which town death am i responsible for?

Creature, who i called town all game?
Gamma, who i called town all game?

You scumread mastina. That is all.

[Joan of Arc]

Really?

[Joan of Arc]

still doesnt make me responsible for anything

i should just lynch you and blame you if you flip town like every sane person would do

but no, im accounting for you being terrible because i dont want to lose this game

and thats what i get

"I am not at fault, and even if I am, I will blame you for it."

[Joan of Arc]

You remind me of Lord Dominator

"I destroy your best friend and I watch you cry."

[Joan of Arc]

The only reads ill accept responsibility on are almost and you. These are completely on me, and if town ends up losing because you or almost are scum then yes, i am to blame

But all the rest? No. These were consensus reads and im not to blame for them.

People only scumread mastina because you forced them to.

[Joan of Arc]

The only reads ill accept responsibility on are almost and you. These are completely on me, and if town ends up losing because you or almost are scum then yes, i am to blame

But all the rest? No. These were consensus reads and im not to blame for them.

People only scumread mastina because you forced them to.

wrong. People scumread mastina because she was scummy. I was just the most vocal.

Right. Then how do you explain this: this?

[Joan of Arc]

Joan do you comprehend what 5596 is saying?

Let me help.

"If I was this egoistic person youre portraying me as, caring nothing about town but just his own ego, what I would do here is just go with the flow and lynch you. Everyone wants you lynched, so I wouldnt be blamed at all if you flipped town, and I would still be able to gloat about being right about townreading you for the whole game.

Instead, I am not doing that, because I am not that person. I want town to win this. And town won't win this if you are town and you are lynched. So I am trying to avoid that, because I still think you are town here.

And yet, despite me being your only supporter here, in addition to being the only one who isnt shallowly scumreading you for your play, what I get from you is insults and a vote. To the point where you have someone fakeclaiming a guilty on you, in mylo, and yet I am still a better vote for you."

And that magically makes all those posts where you scumread me disappear how?

[Joan of Arc]

Let me repost them, cos you clearly didn't see them the first time

ctually, screw it, here are all the relevant posts

Take a look guys. The story is the same, I had a deathtunnel on Kokichi, and Mavis (Joan) was telling me I am so bad for my tunnel and stuff, only to vote him and go "I don't scumread him but I'll get to bully you for being wrong"

Joan was scum.

Subject: Danganronpa V3 Upick! Game over!

I am not lynching Kokichi today, unless you give me a good argument as to why I should.

You'll see first hand how much Yume improved when day 2 arrives. But know this, if Kokichi flips town, anyone and everyone who scumread him has a one-way ticket to my scumpile.

VOTE: Kokichi

And don't give me crap about how townies could be wrong and still be town, because if they weren't sure they were right, they would re-evaluate.

Conclusion, if you are not that sure, you'd re-evaluate. If you are that sure and it turns out you were wrong, Yume would make you pay for your unnatural confidence.

do you deny you did the same thing youre doing here there? voting your supposed townread with an intent to gloat about being right? how is this worthless?

ok i think your defense is bad so i dont think theres any merit in continuing this

i mean, your defense to "these actions are identical to actions you took as scum" is "different players"

how are the players relevant, joan? we are talking about you and your actions. In response to a push of mine. Nothing to do with other players.

do you wanna know how it feels? like you know im right and are using a silly excuse to avoid answering to the case that condemns you.

i said it as soon as you voted mastina and I was reminded of danganronpa

Wisdom was also Town in the game where I SR Joan for the weird association with Alisae, and he (Wisdom) defended her hard. She was scum with Ali as I had pointed out on D1 in that game.

this post by almost made me remember danganronpa

before that i didnt even remember having played with scum you so i had stupidly written you off as town

thats not my case

my case is that youve made the exact same thing as scum

if you had a reason to do it then, you have a reason to do it now

Besides, you want me to scumread and vote her, yet when I did that, you immediately scumread me for it. Which means it's 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' scenario. I defend her? You ignore me. I say 'fuck it' and vote her? You scumread me.

Once again, I scumread you for your vote because it's the exact same thing you've done in the past as scum.

If you reconsidered and accepted mastina could be scum, and voted her for that instead of things like "i will get to gloat" then I wouldnt scumread you.

its either mastina/elena or joan/elena

it aint that hard, everyone else is town

I am BP now. It's my reward for doing what I did.

heres an alternative explanation for who killed dunn

Nah. Arguing with me gives you things to post about, plus ive been stubbornly townreading you. Without me youd lurk.

You didnt kill me in Danganronpa either.

i mean, joan claimed bp
could easily just be joan who killed
but elena is still scum regardless

i think joan claimed bp to save elena maybe

I am BP now. It's my reward for doing what I did.

Joan claimed it right after chito caught the mech thing

I can see it as trying to lure suspicion from elena onto her

Making mastina loved could be an attempt to buddy mastina, it does not necessarily point to being partners.

Joan's BP claim right after Chito caught the mech thing is more damning. It looks like she wanted to save Elena by attracting attention to herself.

Either way, it's one of them.

yep i did fuck up. But you are 100% scum via poe at this point, with your buddy being most likely chito

pink joan is scum like 99% of the time here, i agree

but its also mylo. If torque is fakeclaiming a guilty game is over. Dont you think we should play it safe and massclaim?

not a full claim

VOTE: joan

torque tracked you to cerb last night

explain

Yet you are suddenly saying you don't want me lynched?

[Joan of Arc]

Like, you know, the thing you keep tellng me to do? Consider my reads might be wrong?

I considered my townread on you might be wrong. Yet you use that too to attack me?

:/

[Joan of Arc]

So you are willing to reconsider your read on me, but weren't willing to reconsider your read on mastina? As if I can believe that.

[Joan of Arc]

I don't know what else to say.

[Joan of Arc]

Maybe you should consider that you're the one to blame rather than blaming everyone else for your own shortcomings?

[Joan of Arc]

i reconsidered my read on mastina too, we've already talked about that

If you truly reconsidered, then you wouldn't have gone back to voting her the moment Almost laid out a case on her.

[Joan of Arc]

I don't know what else to say.

You dont need to say. You need to think. What wins this game for town. Pushing me doesnt. Im trying to prevent the mislynch that ends the game here.

If you're town, then quit posturing, and get your head out of its hidey hole, and vote one of Chito/Torque.

[Joan of Arc]

Maybe you should consider that you're the one to blame rather than blaming everyone else for your own shortcomings?

When im to blame ill accept it
Right now theres nothing to blame me for

Except for scumreading mastina when she was clearly town and accepting no alternatives.

[Joan of Arc]

I don't know what else to say.

You dont need to say. You need to think. What wins this game for town. Pushing me doesnt. Im trying to prevent the mislynch that ends the game here.

If you're town, then quit posturing, and get your head out of its hidey hole, and vote one of Chito/Torque.

Or we can wait for liger to claim any information he has, then nolynch to get even more information.
Instead of lynching blindly.
Crazy, right?

Says someone who unvoted the no-lynch the instant I agreed it could be the possibility.

[Joan of Arc]

And what did that accomplish? Did he post yet? Cos if he did, I don't see it.

[Joan of Arc]

Well, I, for one, am glad you're talking to me again in spite of considering me stupid and my play disgusting, so thanks.

[Joan of Arc]

You want to work with me?

Okay then.

What is your response to this:

Elena, who everyone thought her actions point to her for the dunnstral kill? Is that somehow on me too?

Or mastina getting vigged is somehow my doing as well?

You yourself insisted that no one would be scumreading mastina if not for you

So by your own words, yes

You can't have it both ways -- insisting that when a wagon gets going that it's entirely your doing, and then saying that when someone resolves the 1v1 that you had no part.

And I mean, that specific part that I've quoted?

[Joan of Arc]

Yes.

It may not solely be your fault, but you're still partially to blame.

Or are you saying that you should get no blame for it at all, and that all the blame should fall squarely on others shoulders?

Cos that's my issue with you, believing that people who aren't you should shoulder all the blame for certain things.

[Joan of Arc]

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