Undertale Mafia (Endgame):

[RadiantCowbells]

Mercy is currently at 7 .[/color] Undertale Mafia Votecount 1.52: Skygazer (6): Brown Eyes, Shiidaji, Wiisp, Papyrus, Shining Dreamers, Pink Ball Something_Smart (3): Game of Throws, Team RWBY, Skygazer Hot Lightning (2): Rosterfoster, Dannflor Rosterfoster (1): Hot Lightning Wiisp (1): nomnomnom Dannflor (1): Vedith Papyrus (0): Brown Eyes (0): Team RWBY (0): Pink Ball (0): Vedith (0): nomnomnom (0): Game of Throws (0): Shining Dreamers (0): Reasonably Clever (0): Shiidaji (0): NeenieKit (0): Not Voting: Reasonably Clever, Something_Smart, NeenieKit With 17 alive it's 9 to lynch. The day ends (expired on 2019-04-21 00:00:00).

[Wiisp]

@nom
im going to sleeping, in the mean time, you could take the time to actually outline posts i've said, that make me scummy

[nomnomnom]

SO WAIT, YOU CAN GO ON YOUR OWN TO CONSULT ENTIRE MAFIA GAMES OF OTHER PEOPLE, BUT YOU CAN'T CHECK AN ISO???


ALSO I DON'T KNOW IN WHAT WORLD YOU LIVE IN FOR A VOTE TO REPRESENT SOMETHING ELSE THAN "THIS IS SCUM"!!!

[Shining Dreamers]

I do not have a read on mastina

You know those odds per day of us getting mislynched?

Shot up by 10%/day!

[Shining Dreamers]

Skygazer not voting her counterwagon is pretty townie

And I thought I was being the biggest troll this game.

[Pink Ball]

Are you an alt, Pink?

An outed alt. pinturicchio

Huh.

No offense mate but your level of competence on this alt is leagues above your main. Never woulda guessed.

I mean, that's because I started playing better since I created this alt; my recent pint games are good too. But yeah I like PB more too.

[Shining Dreamers]

Shining Dreamers:

Can you explain your readslist that you made a few hundred posts ago I believe? It had a lot of popular townreads and scumreads that don't feel well-reasoned.

Well fuck those other people because my reads came from page one, everyone else is copying me.

[Pink Ball]

Pink Ball:

I agree with

Papy

in that you only pushing the mechanical discussion of a 3p while not giving a solve when you say you have is counterproductive. It feels like you're waiting for something.

By the way @Taly I wasn't only pushing the discussion about the 3p; I came to the thread, said I had a 3p read, someone asked about it and I kept answering about that, so that wasn't on me. I have reads, I have given my most confident ones, and yes, I'm waiting for something.

[Shining Dreamers]

what was the pr in uPick again? i didnt do labrythn

I remember Vecna had one & scum Mastina argued he was faking it.

I'm pretty sure I didn't argue it.
Might've commented on it in passing, but I didn't argue it.

[Vedith]

also his Town PoE is huge

And this is what scum are scared of right now.

[Vedith]

Okay, so what I don't understand is why people keep going "but how can this many be your scum team" or "how can we both be scum?"
What happened to independent scum reads?

[Vedith]

Also I'm caught up and nothing to add other than I think scum now want to shade me rather than earning the slot in my do not lynch block because I'm not giving in that easily.
I'm helping \o/

[Pink Ball]

Vedith, don't be dense. You could make a big town PoE with all your teammates in it and get away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids

[Pink Ball]

Oh shit I'm shading you therefore I'm scum, better stop it

[Vedith]

No you're already in my list you can shade away.
Also if I'm scum wouldn't it be better for me to add only town to make them look bad on my flip.

[Pink Ball]

Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well

[Reasonably Clever]

Skygazer (5): Brown Eyes, Shiidaji, Wiisp, Papyrus, Shining Dreamers
Hot Lightning (3): Rosterfoster, Pink Ball, Dannflor
Something_Smart (3): Game of Throws, Team RWBY, Skygazer

@Clever
to answer one half of your question, if sky flips wolf, I think there is at least one busser on his wagon, leaning towards shining
I think even if Sky flips town, shining dreamers is still scum

Hot can be scum, just because I think is evaluation from me his piss poor, also #1112 if he is a wolf, I would take a look at his wolf leans, one is probably always a wolf
argues my votes are bad, but bad votes don't make someone scum, both sky and hot stay as trains I want to see how they vote

After reread, I think S_S might be the mislynch here, dont @ me

This is not an answer to my question.

I don't particularly care about what your reads are in the event you're proven right.

I care about how you approach reevaluting the game state if you're wrong, and how that reevaluation changes depending on where you're proven wrong.

-Cerb

[NeenieKit]

Have wifi. Skimmed about 15 pages of the 18 since I was on.

NeenieKit:

Where is your mind at on the game? It's been over 1000 posts and I haven't really seen or engaged with you much and I want to rectify this.

~yang

My mind isn't on the game much. I'm feeling a bit lost at sea. I'll have to ISO people, but there's just so much to read and I'm just one person. Busy person.

You're town
Dann is town.
Brown Eyes is town.
Wisp is slightly less town.
Papyrus is annoying.
Nomnomnom... If the flavor indicates town, then it does. But would a post restriction be given that nearly proves alignment?
I got the impression that Nom is denying a need to kill of find humans.

Pinkball really needs further examination.

Nuff for now. I should write or socialize.

[Pink Ball]

Further examination? Sounds kinky, I'm in.

That readlist is pretty good by the way.

[NeenieKit]

@NeenieKit

, I think you're very likely to be town. I think you should vote Skygazer with us.

Papyrus, I think you asked me to justify my Wiisp townread. I'm not sure I have all that much concrete that I can give you. It's perhaps among the least confident of my townreads.

Not until I've looked at Sky myself. Probably after camping. I don't trust you enough to sheep you.

Further examination? Sounds kinky, I'm in.

That readlist is pretty good by the way.

It means I think I may be able to read you with more time.

Also last four pages lean towards Nom being town.

[Pink Ball]

... I knew what you meant.

[Papyrus]

Papyrus is annoying.

This hurts my feelings. What'd you find annoying?

[Game of Throws]

As of right now I'm not really getting that vibe though, it's doubtful you even read most of the game, so idk why you are trying to discredit a train.

I'm really good at this game though

, and I'm quite sure you are just town.

Weird flex but ok

[Game of Throws]

Also if you are gunna troll then stick to trolling, because when you randomly get serious it feels as if you are making sure you look town, which is scummy

Excuse me what

Illogical nature of that aside, it has a deeper flaw, which is that saying "don't do X, it's scummy" is probably based on a misunderstanding of what "scummy" is... because if it's not, then you're explicitly asking someone to make themself harder to read, which is mystifying.

Vedith I'm surprised you didn't put your own name in there :3

Mystifying means confusing. What confuses me is why you would ask someone not to do something scummy, when them doing something scummy would help you read them better.

For the record, scumminess is technically not subjective. (And certainly it's not the case that EVERYTHING is subjective.) Every behavior is either scum indicative or it isn't, and what we form are not opinions but beliefs about what is and isn't scummy. It's possible for a belief to be objectively wrong. I don't really think you're right about tryharding being more likely scum; I believe it's player dependent. I'd guess that the trolling players you've seen were mostly town because most players are town and you remember them more. There's no way that more than 50% of the players you've seen being super serious were scum, the math just doesn't check out.

By the way, this is a really scummy series of posts and further solidifies a scumread there. Why are we at 50 pages? Are we gonna lynch scum or what?

VOTE: Something_smart

[Team RWBY]

shining might be town

-Blake