I think this is a reach and doesn’t take into the obvious explanation that has already been explained like 3 timesIn post 548, skitter30 wrote:it felt like she was trying to keep the momentum on the wagon, but made sure to remove herself from it when it got too close to a lynch so she wouldn't like *actually* be on it when/if a lynch happened
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You’re not me so how can you see the mind meld, especially when I said that I haven’t expressed these mind meld thoughts in the game?In post 547, skitter30 wrote:
i don't see it.In post 526, ofrhz wrote:
Tris has expressed thoughts on the game that I have never even voiced in the threadIn post 424, skitter30 wrote:ngl i don't see anything as being particularly unlikely to be faked.
I would say yes, that kind of mind meld is hard to fake
her posts are kinda just ~there~, almost like she's using them to demonstrate that she's like *present* and *posting* than to like sort people. her questions and observations are shallow and i don't think she posted anything particularly more likely to come from town than scum.
also this feels like a not svs associatives between you and tris
I skimmed anuket topaz and didn’t get the impression that tris was really all that different there. I would say you’re not really engaging as much as compared to that game though
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Oh I didn’t read that properly.In post 542, insomnia wrote:That was me saying the YM wagon is good because townies are on it. How do you take it as throwing shade on the people attacking me???- Invisibility
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In post 466, Elbirn wrote:
@EnigmaIn post 405, Elbirn wrote:
UNVOTE:In post 401, Enigma wrote:i think there is someone else i want to vote for now though, someone join me on this pls
VOTE: Baezu
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Are you townreading skitter?In post 553, Invisibility wrote:hey does anyone know how to stop being bad im having a ton of trouble forming reads and stuff this game- light_ganski
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Vote Count 1.10
Enigma (4)- GuiltyLion, skitter30, Baezu, Yes Mafia
Yes Mafia (3)- volxen, insomnia, Invisibility
skitter30 (3)- tris, ofrhz, Elbirn
tris (2)- rosterfoster, MariaR
Baezu (1)- Enigma
Not Voting (0)
As there are 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.
You have(expired on 2019-04-16 23:24:30)until the deadline.Last edited by light_ganski on Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:26 am, edited 1 time in total.A work in progress
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I think the vote on me is supposed to be roster.
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You have tended to say things I agree with, but I've decided that's not enough to townread you.In post 546, skitter30 wrote:In post 476, tris wrote:Skitter has been saying a lot of stuff I agree with. She might be town.In post 520, tris wrote:
You're probably right.In post 517, rosterfoster wrote:
I think I say this stuff as scum.In post 476, tris wrote:Skitter has been saying a lot of stuff I agree with. She might be town.
Pedit: Oh, interesting
no offense, but this progression on me is atrociousIn post 524, tris wrote:I completely read that wrong. I somehow read that as "I think skitter says this stuff as scum." As in skitter is capable of saying that as scum. Which I think is true.- Baezu
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Hm why are volxen and Maria pinging as scummy to you?In post 530, ofrhz wrote:
From town to scum:In post 453, Baezu wrote:Ofrhz- do you have a reads list?
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I was and then I stopped. she stopped really standing out or whatever.In post 556, ofrhz wrote:
Are you townreading skitter?In post 553, Invisibility wrote:hey does anyone know how to stop being bad im having a ton of trouble forming reads and stuff this gameInvisibility is actually AWESOME!- Invisibility
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UNVOTE:In post 564, insomnia wrote:Prod dodge yeet
Ah, game relevant content? I’m town
K see ya tomorrow, I’ll be doing this until we reach a consensus
Or when I get on my pc
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Hey ofrhz and others I recognize! Anyway I completely did a slip with this account as I still have access to it...sigh. Was checking some administration things, had some time, popped in to post, realized it wasn't the right account. I pmed the host to remove that post but she wasn't on at the time and now, this all happened. Ugh...
Anyway while that occurred, I feel it would be unfair of me to just mistakenly post as one of the accounts from this hydra and leave it at that, so here are some of my thoughts while I have the time to be able to post from the account that nm and I share.
ins = seems town, though the scummy actions of threatening a hammering/role fishing me/voting himself were ridiculously scummy. However, later on I found that I felt like his posts didn't demonstrate a scum agenda. If he is scum, he would be ridiculously sloppy with all those actions I observed. In fact, he defended scum me in dunnstral's game we just came from. So I think insom is town, though some of his play hasn't been good, I think he's just sloppy town. I remember I brought up a few things for him to catch up on in that game we came from where he replaced in, and some of his play here reminded me of that. Also, I don't think scum insom goes this far to play sloppily, I vote him because I first thought he was scum, then I unvote, then he voted me and has been pushing for my death - that sequence makes me think it's likelier town than scum
invis = i've played with invis as my scum partner before and have played with town him in multiple games. Seems way too comfortable here to be scum, as his scum game was strained and he didn't seem like he liked playing as scum. His posts seem out of his scum range
ofhrz = his posts here don't seem forced like micc's large theme game we just came from, where he was non town
elb = friend of vars, and I like his town play very much. Never seen his scum game before. I think he's town here & I especially like how he asked enigma not once but twice about his baezu vote - that's some good follow-up
lion = seriously doesn't look like town, called mari & I scum and I know I'm definitely town
skitter = skitter is one of those players who's very dangerous and can deep wolf in a game, so she's good at looking town. The big focus on "who is YM, is it nm, is it perf, is it some spoof acct, it's hard to read it," just looks like fluff posting that seem lamist. I just saw some sort of scum team award she got so that's not going to help with the paranoia . Anyway it all started when she posted about invis & me being scum, which I disagreed with so I think skitter isn't town. Other than that I am tone reading this slot and I don't feel that it's town
enig = the scumread on this slot is largely since his stalling posts as they reminded me of his scum game where he got to the end of ofrhz's hosted game. He's good at messing with people's associatives for the scum team
bae = due to interactions and weird callout of 3 people who she thought were town and later switched them all to being possibly scum. Downright bizarre to say the least
roster = tone & poe to be honest. This scumread I'm less confident on, compared to say, enigma, skitter, lion
tris = also a tone read...the 3 Im least familiar with are bae, rost, tris. It doesnt feel like tris is scum. The whole unvote-then-vote-ym again scenario felt like that came from town
mari = her catchup analyses were great and if my meta with her scum & town games is right along with those analyses, then mari is protective target # 1 tonight . If I am wrong about her being town, then I have to point out that mari has a wide scum range like skitter and is capable of deep wolfing....this is more a just in case thought than anything else at this point
volx = voteparked me and has been the least active of any of us. Could be coasting scum
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I'm fairly certain that all four of {GuiltyLion, Elbirn, Ofrhz, and Tris} are town.
You quoted the vote count here and said that at least one of {Volxen, Tris, Invisibility} has to be scum, so I assume you are saying this primarily because all three of us were voting for Yes_Mafia. Insomnia was also voting for Yes_Mafia here, so why was he excluded from your "at least one of these players has to be scum" list? I'm especially curious about this because you previously listed Tris and I as townreads, and yet you excluded Insomnia from this list:In post 456, Baezu wrote:
I agree that YM hasn’t done much and has scummy posts, but I don’t like how fast the wagon built on him...In post 452, insomnia wrote:L-4 ym
I think there is at least one scum between volxen, tris and invisibility. Of these, which do you think is the scum?In post 279, light_ganski wrote:Vote Count 1.5
Yes Mafia (5)- volxen, Baezu, tris, insomnia, Invisibility
Invisibility (2)- MariaR, ofrhz
tris (2)- skitter30, Yes Mafia
Elbirn (1)- GuiltyLion
insomnia (1)- rosterfoster
Not Voting (2)- Enigma, Elbirn
As there are 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.
You have(expired on 2019-04-16 23:24:30)until the deadline.
Also, in that above post you listed Maria as a scumread, and then you went on to agree with Yes Mafia that she should be the #1 protective target:In post 381, Baezu wrote:Elbirn- town town town
Enigma- yikes! Now I see what insomnia was talking about...this post is scary (among others)
Guilty lion- townIn post 329, Enigma wrote:
nahhh im not, sorryIn post 323, ofrhz wrote:Ah shit, I think Enigma might be scum
yes mafia (i.e. not_mafia) is lynch bait and people are voting him because of his terrible play style rather than motive in this game
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1. i dont tr him and i dislike the ym wagon
2. his hammer threat is meh ... you claim or i vote you wahh wahh is not helpful for town, especially against a player who is playing like yes mafia
3. i agree with rooster's argument on him
4. fundamentally disagree with him on the voting "mislynch bait" d1 is townie
Insomnia- he’s a great player and I totally thought he was town...am I misreading or misinterpreting that post? I know you were trying to explain it to me but I didn’t understand the explanation...
Invisibility- again, it feels like I’m missing something...nothing she does seems particularly townie to me
Maria is one that I can usually tell right away when she’s town and I’m not getting that vibe this game...
Ofthz is town
I really don’t like this post from roster- he’s been tunneling insomnia the whole game if you look at his iso, it’s scummy
Skitter - townIn post 251, rosterfoster wrote:
Eh. I kind of wished that early wagon on you had stayed, but whatever. Imma just pretend the whole family emergency business didn't happen.In post 220, insomnia wrote:It is town’s job to get rid of the scummiest town and it is scum’s job to get rid of the towniest.
[vote[Insomnia[/vote]
Tris- town
Volxen- town
YM - I initially put my vote on them to get some response and get them talking then the wagon formed and it felt like it might be heading towards a mislynch. They haven’t provided much content but they’re null to me at this point
;tl/dr
In no particular order
Town- {, skitter, ofrhz, Elbirn, GL}volxen, tris
Null- {invis, YM}
Scum - {enigma,roster}Maria,
VOTE: enigma
Have you reversed your previous scumread of Maria? If not, then why do you think she should be protected?In post 513, Baezu wrote:
I agreeIn post 505, Yes Mafia wrote:Maria needs to be protective target #1"i agree it was a good that we outed PR volxen early..it's like he suddenly transformed from an ugly duckling into a beautiful(?) swan " - xwing (Newbie 1889: Ice Cream)- volxen
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UNVOTE:"i agree it was a good that we outed PR volxen early..it's like he suddenly transformed from an ugly duckling into a beautiful(?) swan " - xwing (Newbie 1889: Ice Cream)- insomnia
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sorry i did see that i just havent had time these past few days to respondIn post 466, Elbirn wrote:
@EnigmaIn post 405, Elbirn wrote:
UNVOTE:In post 401, Enigma wrote:i think there is someone else i want to vote for now though, someone join me on this pls
VOTE: Baezu
Sell me
i found 381 curious. it felt forced and shallow to me. i.e. i feel that as town, you want to be finding reasons to tr people, and using those as associatives to read other players. as town, you want to have reasoning for your townreads - baezu did not, suggesting tmi.
her chain of thought between insomnia and myself is weird. like sring/voting insomnia, then suddenly agreeing with insomnia and voting me whilst also in the meantime not having changed her read on insomnia. like, i honestly would not think that insomnia vs me would be svs from an outside perspective - someone else can comment, but hey... (ftr, i actually tr insomnia and think hes just bad)
a few other things from reading her iso. her reads are jumping all over the place without any explanation
e.g.
maria being read as scum then town suddenly
her thinking there is one scum in volxen/invs/trix but not furthering this, despite her volxen and trix town town town just a few posts back
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also, i wanted to mention:In post 444, rosterfoster wrote:
Sorry but that family emergency business screwed up the wagon on Insomnia which would have got good reads. I am not comfortable voting someone who has RL issues D1.In post 381, Baezu wrote:I really don’t like this post from roster- he’s been tunneling insomnia the whole game if you look at his iso, it’s scummy
see the ban announcements thread about this "family emergency business" - Enigma
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