Undertale Mafia (Endgame):

[Team RWBY]

Why'd you vote Wiisp anyway, Roster?

~Ruby

[Team RWBY]

@Something_Smart

What was your read on Neenie/Brie before she replaced out?

~Ruby

[rosterfoster]

Cos Papyrus did.

[rosterfoster]

And Sky’s been townie.

[Alonzo]

So yeah if I'm being cynical... How is that gonna be beneficial to town in the long run here?

@mcqueen

It means I can read you correctly on a whim and everyone should just accept my read of you

-M

You could be voting scum right now for all I know, but if you're not here to push how will those wagons get through?

[Something_Smart]

@Something_Smart

What was your read on Neenie/Brie before she replaced out?

~Ruby

Hell if I remember a single thing Neenie did.

[Something_Smart]

I think Alonzo's pretty readable though which is good

Also I didn't know Neenie was Brie until someone mentioned it here.

[Alonzo]

Alonzo, did you see the miller claim?

Indeed, and having been recently lynched day one on an identical gambit it caught my eye.

But.. I think last forty pages RWBY has been very towny..

[Something_Smart]

It hardly could have been an identical gambit, given that this was a conditional miller claim.

I think I know four? people off the top of my head who've attempted a miller gambit as scum, and I doubt that any of the heads of RWBY except maybe Krazy would try it. Was curious to see if you had similar thoughts.

[Team RWBY]

Cos Papyrus did.

Why Wiisp over HL?

~Ruby

[Wiisp]

ya the roster vote on me is bad, I kinda chopped it up to being TWTBAF, can't imagine scum hopping on my wagon thinking its gonna go anywhere with Pap being the one pushing it, maybe that's too generous of me, there was a time in my hay day where I would just murder anyone that voted me.
still can't agree on your HL town lean though

I don’t like this attitude.

Cool story brah, explain why?

[Wiisp]

@RC
Heading to class, give me a few

[Wiisp]

Dreamers is the scummiest in the thread, so you should always be voting there from these reads

pretty sure the Mastina read is obviously a joke

Hot said

Dreamers- reading super scummy to me. Town Mastina would have solved this by now! Prob scummiest slot in the thread atm

@RC
Dann says it was probably a joke, and I don't necessarily believe that, and I thought it was weird he never voted there

[Team RWBY]

guess who?

~yang

[Reasonably Clever]

Dreamers is the scummiest in the thread, so you should always be voting there from these reads

pretty sure the Mastina read is obviously a joke

Hot said

Dreamers- reading super scummy to me.

Town Mastina would have solved this by now!

Prob scummiest slot in the thread atm

@RC
Dann says it was probably a joke, and I don't necessarily believe that, and I thought it was weird he never voted there

Okay, I disagree with Dann then, I think it was a serious read from Hot. I think the reason why Dann may have thought it was a joke, was the bolded. Town!Mastina incorrectly scumread town!Xtoxm in ND game, so I do find that part kind of amusing. You think it weird that Hot never voted SD, I’m assuming. I dunno, shouldn’t you be addressing this to them?

I usually vote my stongest scumread.

@Hot Lightening, do you still think SD is the “scummiest slot in the thread” and if so, why have you never voted them?

[Reasonably Clever]

guess who?

~yang

Spoiler:

[Wiisp]

@Rc I asked him to answer it, he hasn't responded... Dann was the first and only person to respond to it

[Dannflor]

Maybe I’m wrong

McQueen, let me know what your read on Alonzo is when you get the time

[Team RWBY]

damn, I'm kind of proud of

mastina

for 1960... Fucking finally someone stood to my level on

Sky

.

Spoiler: Reply to SD's 1960

The bolded emphasizes the last commentary I had on previous post - they're looking at the game by solving it rather than honing in on what reasons they can find to indicate someone is scum.

I don't see solving.
I see commentary, not solving.

Commentary can be anything, but it's empty words without backing.

Then what scum motivation are you detecting from this post? 279

Does this read forced? I want to know because I'm not seeing it.

As a matter of fact?

Yes.

It was one of the posts which got me suspecting Sky-Wiisp was a scumteam in fact.

Actually, earlier this dayphase I figured

Sky+Wisp

was a possibility, but my read on

Wiisp

has reversed and I wasn't about to discuss pre-flip associatives D1.

But, why did this make you think of SvS specifically?

Sky

was being voted and pushed, I don't see a benefit to townreading their partner at this interval without stating reason. 885

I don't think this post comes from scum... in most any situation. There's no specific agenda or means to help

Sky's

position in the game other than they're trying to parse reads because theirs are currently blurred.

What if I told you I've seen Sky make almost that exact same post as scum before?

Would your opinion change then?

Maybe, I want to see this post and how it relates to 1149

I don't see why

Sky

-scum would give townreads out to people.

Uh, because it'd be a scumclaim not to?

But doesn't this assume

Sky

actually pushing people would be completely scum-motivated? 1166

Meta reads from this long ago don't feel too justified?

If it were six years, sure.

But my stance is the opposite.

In six months?

Meta absolutely is still valid. Less than a year is enough time to change your playstyle if you've been active, but less than a year is

not

enough time for a change to occur when you've been

in

active. That's 1-2 years, minimum.

1242

Depends on the person. If you try to meta me 6 months ago you're likely to come to an incorrect conclusion about my alignment like most people who meta me first-time.

What makes you feel that meta on

Sky

is valid here? You can link games.

I don't see why scum would point out something they feel looked off about another player, only to take their response out of curiosity rather than pushing it or discrediting it.

Sky

had a good opportunity to dig into my posts because I don't follow the type of player she's been accustomed to in my game, and while the meta is both old and almost useless, they don't pry further than the response they originally asked for.

You're literally calling something which is blatantly a scum action, a town action.

What I see is a disconnect between posts showing a lack of genuine interest, showing a lack of cohesive thought, showing that her thoughts were formed separately and have a disconnect between them owing to not having actually put true interest in them.

So... you think her leaving me alone was just to prevent further engagement? 1380 and 1400

~yang

[Team RWBY]

UNVOTE: UNVOTE:

Yang goes someway to change my opinion on that slot in the next 15 pages

So these were all the posts that THIS HEAD made from pages 40-55.

1090 - 1097 - 1203 - 1214 - 1305, 1306, and 1307 - 1311 - 1317 - 1354, 1355, and 1356 - 1359 - 1362

Not asking you to look at all links, but I want you to elaborate on what made you rethink the scumread from my posts.

Also

Spoiler: Rest of Convo Between Alonzo+Reasonably Clever

Page 40

Lightning looks scummier now but has less votes??

VOTE: RWBY

How is RWBY scummy?

When did I say they were scummy?

You voted them.

Yeah, and if HL flips red maybe id reconsider.

but last 40 pages im liking RWBY for town

Am I following this correctly?

You think it's more likely that we're scum with

Hot

, yet - this head specifically - also voted

Hot

earlier. 503

~yang

[Team RWBY]

Brown's town, Dann.

Why are you interested in telling

Dann

that

Brown

is town when

Roster

voted as well?

Also, I'm just about ready to join that wagon too, so there's extra incentive for you to reply to this.

Or rather lack of stances. I don't like her constant pushes to end the day early. I don't like LHF scum reads on people like Vedith because "they town read Skygazer" even though I did the same thing and yet I'm a town read. I don't like the contentless wall posts.

I agree with these points about

Brown

and I don't understand why

Brown

kind of masqueraded behind

Wiisp

a bit earlier this dayphase either. 145 and 146

1235 is really one of few times they discuss other reads and let them be known but there's not much emphasis on where they came about. Much of their replies to posts are directed to them about

Sky

.

Dann, what do you need from me to convince you to vote Wiisp over Brown?

My read on

Wiisp

has changed, so I want YOU to convince ME why

Wiisp

is a better vote now, even though people were scumreading them and voting them earlier this dayphase.

~yang

[Team RWBY]

my individual "hangups" with people atm

PB/Vedith

both seem to have solid or decently strong solves but aren't doing much in terms of defense for their pushed townreads or much to push against their own scumreads.

nomnomnom

consistently focusing on

HL

to vote is a bit off since they're not further reiterating why

HL

is the best lynch, they're just continually voting them while

HL

seems to have them as towny and not respond?

Chemist's

catchup was a bit lackluster since they went strong for several parts of catching up to the game and then faded... They didn't realize their vote was on

Sky

until recently, I'd like them to actively interact with the read.... wonder why

Wiisp

is so strong about the soulread but w/e.

roster

do you have more than 5 reads rn?

~yang

[rosterfoster]

Cool story brah, explain why?

No.

[Team RWBY]

also i think i need some sort of SOS when reading

papy

i like a good bit of their posts and my other heads have them as town and my other stronger townreads have them as town...

but each time ive pushed for content from them i dont get as much of a clarified or specific response as ive wanted and im wondering if this is just playstyle difference.

so i dont know if im being too productive responding to this slot

*shrugs*

~yang

[rosterfoster]

I was getting some town feels from HL with the latest posts. I think they were after my vote though, and I was considering HL. *shrug*

I don’t really count my reads tbh.

Pedit we’re *shrug* buddies! :O.