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I'm gonna avoid voting ejjinami in case she is the bomb and the recruiter hits scum.

Or she ends up just being town.

Lawliett is town.

Meh.

VOTE: ofrhz

I think the only way to rule Ejj out as a potential lynch is if you town read them.
I'm going to assume that you misunderstood the setup like I did at this point?

I like the town read on Lawliett as I'm probably in the same view right now.

Are you voting orfhz because you think they're scum or because you are just sheeping your town read?

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Can someone explain the SRs on ofr to me?
I have no freaking idea what’s going on
Thx

And @jingle I voted flub in post 87

~Fixed, Jingle

I don't have a scum read I just placed my vote as RVS.
But this refers back to why Orhfz in particular?
I would be surprised if anyone had any genuine read on them.

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Why exactly would the scums be afraid to share it?

Not afraid, but they don't need to. If they didn't have day chat this would have looked like giving instructions to partners though.

And yes, scum do want to be in the bunker, but so do town. The more townies protected the better for us, and the more scum in there the better for them.

What Fumiki posted was town motivated.
If you think that's scum trying to go for that look sure, but the post itself is far from worthless (@Ejj this part).

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110 is basically a roller coaster to me.
I want to say I like Awe's post but it's more or less echo or just shade I feel.

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best mafia strategy is to sound townie in day 1, get recruited, recruit his partner in day 2 and afterwards buss the bomb

it`s a insta win that way as far as i know

if two mafia get into the neighbourhood, it`s very dangerous for town, because they can begin killing inside the neighbourhood and by bussing the bomb later, win the game.

i was thinking about what we should do to prevent that, but didn`t want to break my newbie theatre but well...now it doesn`t really make a difference.

I had to go back and check if mafia had daytalk. If they didn't I would have really scum read this. It still feels anti-town but I don't see why mafia would want to put the strategy out in the open rather than share it with partners only, so I guess you're town.

Fun fact, if you take this post apart, you’ll see that there’s a surprising amount of stuff written in there.
“he had to check the OP”
“he had a read in case the scums didn’t have daytalk”
“they have daytalk so it doesn’t work”
“it doesn’t work so much, that it’s townie”

and it’s rather obvious that he didn’t have to put all of that in here, especially the parts that make him look more townie / earnest.
It’s not always AI, but it makes me feel that he puts quite a bit of effort into making sure that his posts look good.

So are you saying that this is Eyes trying to look town as scum?
I'm unclear to how your stance is here.

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Trying hard isn't alignment indicative.

That's not really what he said though? I feel like you just said the first word and then wanted to say something about that post.

Pedit: Same with eyes as Lich. I feel like the way they post feels scummy sometimes but it's not necessarily AI.

I'm really liking Roster as town here.

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VOTE: eyes

VOTE: Eyes

VOTE: Eyes

wait, didn't you say that eyes is usually scummy?

This chain of events is just really bad.
I understand Ejj voting and my previous post can be ignored.

As pointed out Roster was just soft defending Eyes here but instantly jumps on without acknowledging that Ejj could be right here.
If this was town motivated as pressure I feel that more would have been added. It currently looks like Roster is just going with the flow.

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Yeah, but then I remembered that he was actually scum in the game I was thinking about .

So you think that Eyes plays different as town, or have you looked at this to make your judgement?

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It was more like my reasons for soft-defending eyes were wrong.

[rosterfoster]

So no reason not to vote him.

I struggle with scum reads early on. Eyes’ response to the pressure was ok (although admittedly this was after I unvoted him).

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If it's the game I'm thinking about, I'm going to trust roster's read for now.

VOTE: Eyes without a face

I'm just going to point out that the game they are talking about is Fire and Ice mafia.

Both Rooster and Eyes were scum and Maad was doctor.
I think from this reason alone the read provided by Roster should be null and void.
Maad what makes you believe Roster isn't just using this to his advantage to have a read and vote where looks easier?

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^Btw this is why I voted him.

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He was under a lot of suspicion as town in a couple of his games so I think the sounding scummy part is true (I might have gotten this from a conversation in one of my games with him). No LAMIST stuff that I can see though with either alignment, although there might be something there. I do feel like this depends heavily on the player, but we don't have a better wagon rn so I'm sticking with it.

This just feels like Roster trying to justify his Vote without sitting on a strong read.
What makes Eyes a better wagon over anyone else at this point?

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Saud should stay out of the bunker as either alignment

That's a bad way to see things.
If he's town and calls scum correctly or town correctly then scum are just going to push this kind of view to keep him out.

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I wanted to see how Orfhz acted on a my vote there, but that's irrelevant now.

If it helps your reaction test, I probably would’ve just glossed over it

Thanks for the confirmation.
It doesn't have anything to fall with now regardless though.

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He was under a lot of suspicion as town in a couple of his games so I think the sounding scummy part is true (I might have gotten this from a conversation in one of my games with him). No LAMIST stuff that I can see though with either alignment, although there might be something there. I do feel like this depends heavily on the player, but we don't have a better wagon rn so I'm sticking with it.

This just feels like Roster trying to justify his Vote without sitting on a strong read.
What makes Eyes a better wagon over anyone else at this point?

Nothing. But wagons are good.

Now join me on this Maad wagon? <3

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^Btw this is why I voted him.

Because he was scum in a previous game?
I don't understand your point here?

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Ignore my last post I understand now you mean Maad not Eyes.

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So this is where I'm at.

{Fumiki, Eyes, Ejj}
{TL, Saud, }
{Roster, Flubber, ofrhz}
{Awe, Maad}

VOTE: Maad

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Saud should stay out of the bunker as either alignment

That's a bad way to see things.
If he's town and calls scum correctly or town correctly then scum are just going to push this kind of view to keep him out.

Tell me more about how you read him

[Flubbernugget]

He literally voted Dr Worm because Overki11 said he had a n0 guilty on him (obv a joke) and Lich was not RVSing.

There weren't six pages of content to go after when he did this

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Saud should stay out of the bunker as either alignment

That's a bad way to see things.
If he's town and calls scum correctly or town correctly then scum are just going to push this kind of view to keep him out.

Tell me more about how you read him

In what way? How I will be reading him?
Down to his play.

[Flubbernugget]

His incredibly careless attitude is easy to fake as scum and I think that makes him hard to read

[Saudade]

My life is an open book before you my friends

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His incredibly careless attitude is easy to fake as scum and I think that makes him hard to read

So we should by policy ignore him even if he provides solid reads or content?
No.

If he's town all you're doing is giving scum an extra opportunity to get into the hood with this attitude.
If you think that something looks scummy and backs this up I'll happily listen.