Open 757: Panic Room!

[awestfie]

Chicken, you're really starting to get on my nerves.

[rosterfoster]

Nerves have something to them too

[Saudade]

I heard chicken is delicious

[rosterfoster]

Yeah it is.

Most people choose the wrong parts though.

[Flavor Leaf]

Flavor, do you believe that ejiejuienfami will get 5 more votes from now until deadline? If the answer is no, please vote Eyes.

If the answer is yes, then I don't believe it.

This post makes it obvious Awestfie’s never played a game with me.


@TL - I tend to coin terms like that, so don’t worry you haven’t heard of it before.

Seducing and Hatcheting are also terms I’ve started using.

[High Risk Gamble]

Hey, btw, I'm pretty sure flavor is scum and manipulating you
Also, I think we've stagnated because the two wagons are both scum and there isn't another wagon to turn to

Manipulating me into what exactly?
Before he joined I still had a town read on that slot, I still had a scum read on your slot and I still didn't like both of the leading wagons.

What's changed with my views after Flavour joined in?

[Saudade]

Flavor, do you believe that ejiejuienfami will get 5 more votes from now until deadline? If the answer is no, please vote Eyes.

If the answer is yes, then I don't believe it.

This post makes it obvious Awestfie’s never played a game with me.


@TL - I tend to coin terms like that, so don’t worry you haven’t heard of it before.

Seducing and Hatcheting are also terms I’ve started using.

Please dont use those terms here.

[Jingle]

PSA: Seducing hatchets is not a particularly wise passtime. You will find very few amateur hatchet seducers live long enough to become professionals. If I cannot convince you to abandon your attempts to seduce hatchets, please at least use the correct protection.

[themilkcartonkid]

Hey, btw, I'm pretty sure flavor is scum and manipulating you
Also, I think we've stagnated because the two wagons are both scum and there isn't another wagon to turn to

Manipulating me into what exactly?
Before he joined I still had a town read on that slot, I still had a scum read on your slot and I still didn't like both of the leading wagons.

What's changed with my views after Flavour joined in?

into townreading him and towards scumreading certein people. I'm not 100% sure, but it was just the feeling I got from the post

[Flavor Leaf]

If they’re relevant, I will use them.

If I need to make a name for something else, I will do so.

[ejjinami]

sigh, the game might be progressing a bit too quickly for me, caught up to page 34
I was going to ask people not to post that much so that it can end, but on second thought it might have been stupid after all

[ejjinami]

Someone go full town leader, conftown themselves and I`ll sheep you

I`m clearly not suited for the role. Instead of ignoring/completely discrediting Awe I actually tried to talk with her and this is the shit it turned into.

I tried to listen to what Flubb had to say instead of tunneling him and making this day over as soon as possible, and this is the shit it turned into.

Then like...

I`m not in the mood to do anything at all anymore. I`ll try to town read someone and sheep.

The lack of motivation feels townie.

HRG is votable in my eyes but it's too early to lynch our townreads.

The deepwolf discussion is useful since it informs later Days.

and awest's vote on Fumuki is just forced.

This still feels like a bit too much though. TL reading people based on the deepwolf theory has clearly started because of Fumuki’s question and there’s no way TL could have been used to doing that before. And here (and in his other post) it feels like he wants to use it as much as possible, which is just off to me.
I mean, he might have liked the theory and there’s nothing wrong with it, but this isn’t his first game here and he MUST HAVE his own playstyle and his own way of reading people. Even if he sincerely believes that finding deepwolves is the right way to go, him mentioning it in every other post feels unnatural.

VOTE: awestfie

I have decided.

You are almost caught scum awest.

And the tone here is terrible
Either incredibly clumsy or just fake.

[ejjinami]

Friendly reminder that I'm voting scum(eyes) and you should sheep

You almost sound like you're convinced this is true.

It’s shade
And it feels townie, lol.
I mean, I’m having a hard time imagining scum reacting to an unexplained SR on them with sth like that. It makes so much more sense if from eyes’s pov “being convinced of them being scum”

was sth saude was doing wrong

.

It doesn’t make much sense as SvS.
And it coming from SvT (with eyes being scum and saude being town) feels ridiculous imo. It’s almost as if scum!eyes was complimenting town!saude for SRing him, which, unless planned or made with the intention of making bad interactions, I don’t think is all that likely to happen.

[ejjinami]

Ok I'm getting why people are scum reading eyes now

I’m assuming you’re talking about the post I quoted above
Why do you think it’s scummy?

It might be that Saudade xor Eyes is scum

wHy?

[ejjinami]

HRG is votable in my eyes but it's too early to lynch our townreads.

The deepwolf discussion is useful since it informs later Days.

and awest's vote on Fumuki is just forced.

I'm not sure what scum Lich gets to provoke another vote on him here?
Surely as scum he wouldn't want to risk me just jumping on board now.

I absolutely disagree with the reasoning. Lich is clearly trying to “implement the theories about deepwolves into his scumhunting methods”. He’s been doing it for a while and he’s been saying that you could be a deepwolf since fumuki first asked him about it.

No offense, but fair chances are that he has absolutely no idea or any what he’s doing, so him not backing off shouldn’t be associated with “being brave” imo.
If scum, he could be easily saying all of that just for towncreed or just because he really believes that he should be acting townie and “all townies should follow the plan/idea”. I don’t think it’s townie.

[ejjinami]

VOTE: Eyes without a face

I am happy with this vote. Saudade pings town to me now with HRG's case in 614.

This strongly feels like he voted just to save his own ass
He was voting awe before, so saude “being town” shouldn’t be a reason to change his vote
Has TL elaborated on the vote yet? If not, do it, please

VOTE: Eyes without a face

I am happy with this vote. Saudade pings town to me now with HRG's case in 614.

So it's not like I'm the only counterwagon to yours or anything like that. Right?

Actually, that’s exactly what I just said, but it feels like shade :/

Very null, all the things they're doing scummy also are done as town

It feels like you’re just throwing empty words around. wHaT things were you talking about?

[ejjinami]

This game is dead.

VOTE: TL

Townie vote
Also, the game dying just when eyes’s wagon started means that the mafia are either bussing, or he’s just town.

That vote scumpings me a little, though the game

is

stagnating.

Not self-voting to get the game going btw.

Actually, can you explain why exactly did you think about self-voting to progress the game? and why didn’t you do that?
I’ll give you a cookie and maybe reconsider my read depending on the answer.

[ejjinami]

That vote scumpings me a little, though the game

is

stagnating.

Not self-voting to get the game going btw.

This is a fake dumping, I'm 90% sure

VOTE: milk

Still think bomb reads are kinda dumb rn

Cool, you can think that. It doesn't change that I think TL us the best lynch. Fairly scummy and survivalistic posting, and actual resistance to the lynch without any real reason for the resistance

UNVOTE:
VOTE: TL

This game has no spark and I'd rather see a lynch than do what we're currently doing. I am A-OK with lynching Eyes too.

there are other ways to ignite the game state besides lynching players

Give me your ways then, Saudade.

Look for deepwolves?

That’s cute

VOTE: Themilkcartonkid

This was the Maad slot too.
His only views since replacing are TL scum without reasoning or attempt to convince and that scum are all voting Eyes.
He's just following where most popular is right now.

Although this suggests he could be scum with Eyes, I'm not sold on it.
Eyes just looks like a hard push for town, but if it comes to it I'm favouring lynching Eyes over TL.

Anyone who doesn't think that Milk is a viable lynch today regardless to if he's lynched or not, explain one town thing that slot has done all game.

The vote change feels townie
I absolutely disagree with lynching eyes over TL though

[TemporalLich]

I considered self voting because a lynch might be risky but it would kickstart the game into going again. I didn't self vote because self voting is anti-town

[ejjinami]

I could be wrong tho lets see what he has to say in his defense

I don't see a case for me to defend. We are blindly lynching someone and it could very well be me.
Someone told me self-voting is bad play regardless. Otherwise I would have voted myself to help you all see the light. My fear is I will always be a lynch candidate for as long as I'm alive and people are even more inclined to hunt for my partners without even seeing my flip. That's BAD PLAY!

(Written just after a few shitposts.)
Nothing in that post actually makes sense to me
Saying that by self-voting you would be helping the other players “see the light” is essentially a scum-claim and even as a joke it feels disgusting. It doesn’t even feel like a “joke” though, which I don’t know what to think about.
Who exactly was reading you based on pre-flip associations and is so “BAD”?

This post feels like you just wrote a bunch of random bullshit without actually thinking or reading the game. Elaborate on it.

I mean, it's not bad for scum. It gives them room to flip their reads on whomever they like upon my flip. It's bad for town because once I flip green they can't just say "Oops. Wrong lynch but X is still scum". Instead they maybe forced to drop a genuine scum read on someone who is indeed scum just because they already decided they were of the same alignment I am.

Again, who are you talking about?
I’ll eat my own hat if the stuff you wrote is actually related to the game. It feels like you’re just repeating sth someone said for whatever reason and I don’t see the freaking point of doing that.

Fun idea: At the beginning of the game you said that you’re much more serious and concerned about your image as scum. Now it feels like you’re just trying to shitpost, possibly to appear like you’re not concerned about your lynch.
Convince me otherwise.

[TemporalLich]

Be warned that I am L-1 so don't hammer me outside of the tent.

[Jingle]

Vote Count 1.20

With 11 alive, it is 6 to Lynch or No Lynch!

TemporalLich (5): Flubbernugget, maadneet, Eyes without a face, rosterfoster, ejjinami,
Eyes without a face (3): TemporalLich, awestfie, Saudade
themilkcartonkid (2): High Risk Gamble, ofrhz
ejjinami (1): Flavor Leaf,
High Risk Gamble (0):
Flubbernugget (0):
Flavor Leaf (0):
awestfie (0):
rosterfoster (0):
ofrhz (0):
Saudade (0):

Not Voting (0):

Deadline: Day 1 will end in (expired on 2019-05-03 18:00:00)

IMPORTANT NOTES:

- None.

[ejjinami]

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What are your reads eyes?

Im curious about your read on saudade in particular

Saudi Arabia is one of those people I'd auto-SR like Dr Worm and such players. I don't think it funny to do gimmicks and talk nonsense all the time. Sometimes they provide random reads but nothing to discuss. When they do engage they are asking others such silly questions (like "what does this mean?" & "why do you think that?") which makes them appear like they're asking questions when they really aren't.

In short, I have no qualms voting S.A. (whom I am intentionally misspelling as Saudi Arabia in revenge for his treatment to my name) but I can't say I gave a read on him one way or another with confidence.

Ok, the tone and the way he interacted with someone who has been SRing him the whole game makes me thing he might really just not give a shit.

I also feel like eyes hasn't been responding to his wagon like he did in 9:12

in 9:12 (where he was town), he reacted violently to his mislynch there and started calling some people on his wagon dumb and bad at mafia etc etc.

Basically I feel like his reaction to being wagoned here doesn't have the same ~frustration~ compared to him being wagoned in 9:12

Do you think it’s scum indicative?

Arent you a bit enthusiastic that im running a counter wagon to yours huh

I absolutely love that reaction

[ejjinami]

UNVOTE:

sigh

[ejjinami]

I still need some time to catch up
and I'd actually want to talk to someone before the day ends
but my vote is mentally there