You say my votes opportunistic yet they have follwed a path of reasoning. Whiel yesterdays were mostly that you agreed with axeIn post 1274, nomnomnom wrote:Except Axe has been following my vote this time around, so you are mistaken.In post 1271, bob3141 wrote:My reason for voting for sky is that no one can confirm it. And I plain just dont belive himIn post 1269, nomnomnom wrote:Your posts and votes feel like opportunism since the start and your latest reason to vote Sky was the proof of it.In post 1265, bob3141 wrote:In post 1251, rosterfoster wrote:She never said she was a loyal friendly neighbour?
Kind of assumed from her sayign today disloyal freidnly neigbour. That she must of claimed loyal or something.
Been 2 days sicne ive looked at the forum
If you flip as anything else than scum I will be shocked.
He as looking liek scum to me a start of yesterday and end yesterday (game day)
YOu however nom have just been jumping on what ever wagon axe does
If we lynch you and that you flip scum, she is basically confirmed as fn given your opportunistic vote, which basically hard solves the game for town and this is how we win.
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You used fake information to push a vote on sky and you outright lied about the game state to push that vote. Sky did not claim anything else than "friendly neighbor" yesterday, yet the reason for your vote is that she claimed loyal instead of disloyal.In post 1275, bob3141 wrote: You say my votes opportunistic yet they have follwed a path of reasoning
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In post 1276, nomnomnom wrote:
You used fake information to push a vote on sky and you outright lied about the game state to push that vote. Sky did not claim anything else than "friendly neighbor" yesterday, yet the reason for your vote is that she claimed loyal instead of disloyal.In post 1275, bob3141 wrote: You say my votes opportunistic yet they have follwed a path of reasoning
That's opportunism.
There is a difference between lying and belivign something that isnt true. Reading back I dont get were I got loyal from as sky did "friendly neighbor". Some how after reading disloyal and then reading in the wiki what it and the opposite loyal meant. The incorrect fact that sky c;aimed loyal freidnly neigbout got stuck in my head.
Ive only ever played with teh game modifier liek insane and sane so had no clue what it meant.
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I want your reads list right now, with explanations.In post 1277, bob3141 wrote:In post 1276, nomnomnom wrote:
You used fake information to push a vote on sky and you outright lied about the game state to push that vote. Sky did not claim anything else than "friendly neighbor" yesterday, yet the reason for your vote is that she claimed loyal instead of disloyal.In post 1275, bob3141 wrote: You say my votes opportunistic yet they have follwed a path of reasoning
That's opportunism.
There is a difference between lying and belivign something that isnt true. Reading back I dont get were I got loyal from as sky did "friendly neighbor". Some how after reading disloyal and then reading in the wiki what it and the opposite loyal meant. The incorrect fact that sky c;aimed loyal freidnly neigbout got stuck in my head.
Ive only ever played with teh game modifier liek insane and sane so had no clue what it meant.
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In post 1187, NotAnAxehole wrote:Also, I'd like a full claim from Flavor Leaf no bullshit, because I will know. I called the BS correctly from TheWizard.
I guess on retrospection, thewiz was doing that to hopefully draw an nk but the way he went about it was ridiculous and it ended up in his lynch.In post 1190, NotAnAxehole wrote:I will just say, anyone who is VT should not claim PR. It is never good for anything other than trolling.
If you are VT and you fake claim, you will be lynched.
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In post 1196, NerfedBuJ wrote:Why are we talking about claims in day 2?
And I didn't receive anything sky.
so hold on...buj received nothing from sky, sky said buj is town, then buj voted notanaxe??In post 1199, Skygazer wrote:BuJ is town
assuming i'll be wagoned and flipped it'll be extremely obvious why soon
if im not wagoned and flipped then it'd be too much info for scum to say whyI’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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the fact that I've been in a large where scum literally fake claimed disloyal , sky survived n1, and now she adds that she's got this modifier but didn't tell us on d1...just doesn't add up.In post 1221, rosterfoster wrote:Yeah that’s a remarkably convenient claim.
It does almost make me think whether this is setup WIFOM but most likely Sky is just scum.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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so now you're giving up with a self vote, which is also fishyIn post 1228, Skygazer wrote:i mean
why would i set myself up to get mislynched d2 as scum
i wouldnt
but at the time staying alive to get at least one result was most important, if i had retracted and claimed VT i would've been instalynched and we'd lose that one result
VOTE: sky
Problem is, if you're REALLY a disloyal FN, scum will need to kill you asap anyway because you're too valuable.
Overall the fact that the wagon on you built so fast, is also incredibly suspicious.
What are your reads right now.
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Other thoughts: if the pg 49 between sky/roster/buj is some scum theater, then 10/10 because wow.
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I'm scumreading bob for the interactions and fishy reads list on pg 47.In post 1282, rosterfoster wrote:Sorry but why would she claim disloyal? It literally makes no sense to do so.
I do feel the claim is very convenient, but on the other hand if bob flips scum he seemed way too eager to jump on for that to be SvS
Pedit: After claiming disloyal is useless.
This d2 just began and it would be too quick to end it so soon, when there are people who haven't posted yet. My suggestion - Can we wait until everyone posted at least once before ending it. Until then, my intent is to vote bob.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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For now I'm going to put them at null after what's happened. by going with her result, we have a smaller poe so that's good to work with.In post 1283, rosterfoster wrote:Loyal would townclear. Disloyal is useles once the cat’s out the proverbial bag (this is another reason the claim is convenient for scum).I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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vc 1.5 (note the below votes were BEFORE sky's FN claim)
Skygazer (4): NotAnAxehole, nomnomnom, Saudade, KidAmn (roster, nerfed, bob added their votes after vc 1.5 was posted)
NotAnAxehole (2): NerfedBuJ , TheWizard
Performer (2): RuiRui, rosterfoster
EeveeLution Army (1): Nero Cain, then voted notanaxe
Flavor Leaf (1): Sickofit1138, then voted eevee
nomnomnom (1): Flavor Leaf
NerfedBuj (1): Skygazer
RuiRui(1): Performer
rosterfoster (1): EeveeLution Army
TheWizard (1): bob3141
Sky claimed FN right after she got to unannounced L-1 from bob's latest vote on her.
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TheWizard (8): NotAnAxehole, rosterfoster, NerfedBuJ, nomnomnom, EeveeLution Army, bob3141, Sickofit1138, Skygazer
NerfedBuj (2): Nero Cain, Performer
NotAnAxehole (2): TheWizard, Flavor Leaf
Performer (1): RuiRui
KidAmn (1): Wagonomics
Wagonomics (1): KidAmn
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Conftown
Skygazer (that's me!!)
NerfedBuJ (cleared by me)
Strong Town
Flavor Leaf - Don't know how to read him but I'm trusting Krazy when he said FL could go into our town block, I townread Fumuki anyways so
Nero Cain - Playing to his town meta, I haven't really seen anything that seems like a scum play so far
NotAnAxehole - I forgot that Krazy was so strongly townreading this slot. Also after more posts from today I don't think I'm reading too much into things anymore. Also I think Axe spewed himself as town for aggressively misunderstanding my claim
nomnomnom - I don't feel like they'd play this aggressively here as scum. Also see above at my Axe read.
Weak Town
rosterfoster - Still don't know how to read him that well. I'd look into this slot more if bob flips town for whatever reason but I don't really have anything to go off of other than I don't exactlyyyy like how roster is continuing to defend my claim for me while simultaneously throwing shade
Performer - Like his posts, I don't think scum-him comes into today throwing shade after the sudden shift from me to bob, especially considering bob got voted up for opportunistically voting me. I think scum-Perf would see why bob got voted up and avoid mentioning my slot as much as he has
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KidAmn - still don't like their push on me yesterday, they were the first one that felt the need to actually justify voting for me yesterday and their justification was p meh and comes across as an opportunistic wagon hop-on
RuiRui - lurky, BuJ push seems like lynchbait now that I have a clear there
EeveeLution Army - lurky, reminds me somewhat of dram where we were scum together
Scum
Sickofit1138 - Still not liking him after yesterday. Him just coming into D2 saying we should never lynch me doesn't make much sense, I'd expect some skepticism there from town but instead I got some tmi buddying
bob3141 - Don't like his vote on me, feels opportunistic especially with his nonsensical explanation for ithemloreplacement queue-
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You think Bob and sick can be scum together?In post 1287, Skygazer wrote:Conftown
Skygazer (that's me!!)
NerfedBuJ (cleared by me)
Strong Town
Flavor Leaf - Don't know how to read him but I'm trusting Krazy when he said FL could go into our town block, I townread Fumuki anyways so
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nomnomnom - I don't feel like they'd play this aggressively here as scum. Also see above at my Axe read.
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KidAmn - still don't like their push on me yesterday, they were the first one that felt the need to actually justify voting for me yesterday and their justification was p meh and comes across as an opportunistic wagon hop-on
RuiRui - lurky, BuJ push seems like lynchbait now that I have a clear there
EeveeLution Army - lurky, reminds me somewhat of dram where we were scum together
Scum
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bob mentioned zero reads on sick in their posts so far
sick agreed w bob's read on me D1 and then jumped on bob mid wagon today which could easily be a distancing thing considering bob suddenly became the most likely lynch for today
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Is Bob's play all that different than yesterday when he jumped on me for not explaining nom vote, even though I did? Are Bob and Axe scum since Axe disliked my Bob push?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I don't think it is, but here Bob's play is blatantly anti-town.In post 1290, Nero Cain wrote:Is Bob's play all that different than yesterday when he jumped on me for not explaining nom vote, even though I did? Are Bob and Axe scum since Axe disliked my Bob push?-
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if it's no different why is he getting more heat today than yesterday?
Also, why is his play "anti-town" rather than scummy?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I not would be surprised if Wizard/Axe was TvT all along.
In post 1228, Skygazer wrote:i mean
why would i set myself up to get mislynched d2 as scum
i wouldnt
but at the time staying alive to get at least one result was most important, if i had retracted and claimed VT i would've been instalynched and we'd lose that one result
VOTE: sky
This is unconstructive nonsense, as is attacking me for justifying my vote on you while also attacking me for not properly justifying my vote on you.In post 1234, Skygazer wrote:
krazy was the best player here and i had a heavy TR on his slotIn post 1231, nomnomnom wrote:
I'd also like to understand why wag's scumread was the most important to check, given that he only died tonight...In post 1219, Skygazer wrote:kind of obvious why i would check buj there, was wagon's strongest SR and i was going back and forth and just wanted peace of mind on the slot
Is that a slip?
of course im gonna check his SR
Need to reread.
PEdit: "anti-town" after D1 is the dogwhistle of scum with no good lynches going after lazy townies.
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Anyone who knows me well against me just trollin’ it out until it’s time for deep solves?CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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but what if you die?!? lead us Boon!In post 1295, Flavor Leaf wrote:Anyone who knows me well against me just trollin’ it out until it’s time for deep solves?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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