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[Sashaddin]

The beauty of filling Not_Mafia's spot is that you can read his iso faster.
Hi Skygazer! Is your vote a read or a policy?

[Sashaddin]

a read/PoE! also you havent been hammered yet!

Anything you would need to change that read?

[Sashaddin]

You don't even want to see my reads?

[Sashaddin]

Town

Skyraider

Lean Scum

Exilon, Gimm1ck

Scum

Baezu

[Sashaddin]

No... my reads are

that

bad? That's after reading the thread only once, I didn't redo isos individuallly yet, just used the global feeling I got when I got to posting.
Or maybe you didn't understand... I think Skygazer is town, Baezu is scum and I'm hesitant on both of Gimmick and you.

[Sashaddin]

Outside of yours, which iso should I be looking at first?

[Sashaddin]

It's not about the reads being bad per se, it's just... if they were right town would have lost the game already.

I thought Baezu hadn't posted yet, I didn't see his last post at the bottom of the page somehow it seems. My wife would say I was looking with my men's eyes.

[Sashaddin]

Exilon
Gimmick
Baezu
Skygazer who played a good scum game it seems

I think that's better knowing what I know now.

[Sashaddin]

No wait...

[Sashaddin]

No matter how I look into it, the siutuation is:
Skygazer is comfirmed scum, else I would have been hammered like Exilon said. I currently give Exilon more townie points than the other two, so it's either
Sky-G or Sky-B right now.
VOTE: Skygazer

[Sashaddin]

@Exilon
You were SRing Gimmick in 356 and 420-421.
I dind't get how you came to a town read in 508.

[Sashaddin]

Which I do not recommend, as we have had minimal discussion at this point.

What is your case against Exilon?

[Sashaddin]

I'm Tracker.

Checked Gimm, no visit.

Probably wouldn't have hammered if you'd claimed earlier :/

If there's a cop, check between Skygazer/N_M/Baezu if you haven't already.

If there's a jailkeeper or doc, play doc. I'd say doc me, but at this point just randomly choose between Exi/Gim/Yours Truly or something.

By PoE, and if I trust PvT's reads (who got NKed....) my scumteam would be Skygazer and Baezu. It fits both the cop and the doc/jk hypothesis.
But I'd like an answer at my two questions above.

[Sashaddin]

But the main reason is that NM and Gimm are definitely not scum together. A VC analysis puts NM in a terrible spot. He's only ever voted for townies, he wagoned on townies, etc. Therefore, if NM is scum, then it follows that Gimm is town.

Would you approve that if I'm green then Gimmick is red?

[Sashaddin]

I'm not that good to push people around. This will be an uphill battle for me I think. Plus, filling N_M's shoes mean you really can't have a clue about my alignment...
At least the first vote was before my entrance, I won't feel too guilty if I get hammered to lose the game.

[Sashaddin]

@Exilon: What's your current read on Sky?

[Sashaddin]

I'm currently more inclined to believe we have a NM/Baezu scumteam.

Agreeing with Baezu

[Sashaddin]

*Agreeing about Baezu

[Sashaddin]

@Exilon
What could make change your read on my slot, or me directly?

[Sashaddin]

It's not about the reads being bad per se, it's just... if they were right town would have lost the game already.

I thought Baezu hadn't posted yet, I didn't see his last post at the bottom of the page somehow it seems. My wife would say I was looking with my men's eyes.

Town

Skyraider

Lean Scum

Exilon, Gimm1ck

Scum

Baezu

lol scum you didn't even realize that I should be confscum from your perspective, that's a pretty bad slip

I was looking for a Baezu post after seeing both Exilon and Gimmick, somehow I didn't see the last one of the page.
I had townread you all the way to here, then I had to realize your were confiremd scum all the way. I was disappointed of my bad read of you. but you're a good scum, your tag says...

[Sashaddin]

baezu is definitely the most likely sash partner

Yeah, i spotted that too.

Can we three agree on voting Baezu then?

[Sashaddin]

nah ur confscum to me right now

I could understand scum but how am I confirmed? I didn't see any mechanic that proves it...???

[Sashaddin]

Well who could he be scum with other than baezu?

Skygazer!

[Sashaddin]

Well who could he be scum with other than baezu?

Skygazer!

[Sashaddin]

you haven't been hammered after i voted

It implicates you are also scum to someone who believes I'm town, although there doesn't seem to be a lot of those here.

[Sashaddin]

*It also implcates...
sorry hard day at work

[Sashaddin]

No, I was writing my thoughts. Didn't care about the novelty.

[Sashaddin]

NM literally posts like this in most games ive seen him in; its not alignment indicative and its not going to change his posting style in this game so just trust me when i say if he's town he knows how to catch scum (esp later in the game) and if he's scum it'll just take some process of elimination sorting

im concerned that NM could be seen as an easy mislynch for scum to pull off w/o catching any flak

i wouldn't go as far to describe him as lynchbait because the people who've played w him tend to know better but i'm p sure none of you have played w him so maybe in this context he has lhf qualities

thats fair

i just got out of a game where scum were in the rlly obvious scum pool and it threw me off because scum usuallyyyyy doesn't just neatly fall into the majority consensus

and i said NM can be sorted through PoE and PoE basically has him at scum for me rn

lylos got me paranoid tho

VOTE: notmafia

meh dont bother

This looks like she was setting a trap for my slot from the start.

[Sashaddin]

I just find it interesting that you seem to be having to remind yourself that she has to be scum, rather than having it set in stone that she is scum.

I wanted to type something, but if you want I can go back to N_M's style...

[Sashaddin]

It's literally garunteed one of Skygazer or Sashaddin is scum

I townread Skygazer, so by auto confirmation, I scum read NM's sub, Sashaddin.

I was townreading her too, but she's (a good) scum.

[Sashaddin]

y'all gonna be online before deadline

the 21 hours thing makes me uncomfy

Nice fake.

[Sashaddin]

if i was setting a trap why would i open the day up still paranoid that your slot could be a trap/easy mislynch for scum to push? it literally took me until midway through the day to be comfy with you being scum and even further than that to lay down a vote. calling me defending NM for being lynchbait (which he is usually) early game to set up a trap for lylo is a big stretch and it just seems like ur grasping at this point

By his style, N_M is better off being killed later in the week. By keeping the lynchbait around longer, scum risk hitting better lynches sooner.

[Sashaddin]

are you just going to call me fake instead of responding to my actual content

I was, I'm just slow to form my ideas right now.

[Sashaddin]

you're missing my main point which is if i was setting up a trap why wouldnt i just come in guns blazing d3 trying to lynch NM

Subtlety? seeding the idea, then waiting the right moment to pounce...

[Sashaddin]

VOTE: notmafia

meh dont bother

This post comes 10 minutes after the announcement of a replacement, voting the empty slot so the new guy has a harder time filling N_M's shoes. I find this opportunistic.

[Sashaddin]

I wish people would speak more so I can have a better chance of sorting out the others before they vote. Spending an hour to try to convince a scum would be no fun.

[Sashaddin]

I just find it interesting that you seem to be having to remind yourself that she has to be scum, rather than having it set in stone that she is scum.

I wanted to type something, but if you want I can go back to N_M's style...

You're blackmailing us by threatening to play against your win condition?
that's nice.

I thought the raspberry smiley at the end was meaning I was joking around...

[Sashaddin]

you're flailing

Yes, because my only other lylo was when I was scum but I really don't know what to do this time around, so I'm trying a lot of things. Trying my best to be a good replacment..

[Sashaddin]

ucp.php?i=pm&mode=view&f=0&p=1999092

[Sashaddin]

Sorry
viewtopic.php?f=53&t=77764&start=1300

[Sashaddin]

It's been a pleasure to sub for this game everyone.
I hope the mod opens the PT threads, I'd like to see the mafia chat.

[Sashaddin]

So it was Sky-Gimmick and not Sky-Baezu?

[Sashaddin]

I just find stuff like this, as well as most of Sashaddin's entry to be scummy because it is the definition of panicking. Instead of being townie and pushing the most logical candidate, and making reads, Sashaddin is pushing the one person who Is lynching them.

Was this just a mafia post, or didn't you see that landing in the shoes of NM in lylo with already a vote on me was to be a challenge?

[Sashaddin]

it was sky/baezu, does that mean we deserve the win less?

Even more, you convinced two more people to vote!

[Sashaddin]

can you link to that game

I thought this post in was kind of a slip for me; the only reason I would ask to see a game of their's in this context is to shade them for meta reasons, considering I already would have them as confscum

I was surprised by that too, I wish I had thought more and capitalized on it.

[Sashaddin]

@Exilon: Excluding NM's work, what was your obervations on me?

[Sashaddin]

As a note, it's not okay to the post in the thread if you were dead, even if you think the game is over -- because people could always be twilight trolling you might influence the game by causing the living players to believe you had been spoiled. In this case, the game really was over so no harm was done, but please be mindful of that in the future.

I think I'm the target of this sentence. I take good note of it and apologize.

[Sashaddin]

As a note, it's not okay to the post in the thread if you were dead, even if you think the game is over -- because people could always be twilight trolling you might influence the game by causing the living players to believe you had been spoiled. In this case, the game really was over so no harm was done, but please be mindful of that in the future.

I think I'm the target of this sentence. I take good note of it and apologize.

you are perfectly welcome to post in twilight.

no, pvturist was. Your post was fine because there's always a small chance that everybody miscounted and you weren't really lynched, so you count as alive until the mod says you're dead, and the game counts as ongoing until the mod says it's over.

Ah ok! I don't endgame often. thanks again!

[Sashaddin]

Sashaddin also correctly guessed that we were planning on having his slot be the most likely lylo lynch.

It feels nice to be right sometimes, thanks for tellling me this

[Sashaddin]

Sasha, I feel like you could've pushed me harder considering you knew I had to be scum, but you also replaced into NM's slot so you can't really be faulted for being lynched.

My pushing skills are somewhat low. Also, you were my TOP townread before realizing that you mechanicallly was comfscum, so I didn't see much to attack in your iso...
If I were to do it again, I think I would focus on you on the last day and imagine the first ones are non-existant. But your scum game was no match for me anyways!