Micro 874: Generic Micro Normal (game OVER]

[nomnomnom]

When I say "this" it's just indicating a thought process, a string of sentences, a post, or your slot in general. Not your person in general.

[nomnomnom]

Cheeky. It doesn't matter. I have no incidence over this vote aside from my vote.

If you want to lynch Blake then I really cannot stop you.

Saudade is never going to pick a side. You are talking to a wall.

[nomnomnom]

We are closely approaching the time where town collectively collapses mentally.

Cheeky do something.

pedit: brb I'm going to scream

[nomnomnom]

Wanna play the game where I get lynched today, I flip town, then you realize in pure horror what you just did, then you literally have no power of this game, then justify that terrible vote post game?

Because I'm fine playing that game and I'll vote myself right now just so I can cackle at that thought.

[nomnomnom]

Otherwise you should be unvoting me and getting a grip.

[nomnomnom]

VOTE: nomnomnom

You absolutely deserve to witness your own lack of teamplay and your stubborn attitude to the point where people cannot even trust you as an IC. Bye!

[nomnomnom]

[nomnomnom]

VOTE: TDC

Yeah. That's what I thought.
I'm glad I could use that GIF I have to say.

[nomnomnom]

You doing to cheeky what I did to Katyusha

It's for the greater good.

[nomnomnom]

I apologize LUV, there is actually one scenario where you are not mafia.

TDC/MJL is where I'm leaning now, I think.

Strong possibility given that MJL said she would sheep everything, appears as Cheeky changes her mind about you then tries pushing for you and me as scums.

[nomnomnom]

Actually now that I think about it yeah, that would make TDC/MJL the most likely. Then again we can discuss this tomorrow as TDC flips scum.

[nomnomnom]

We have a few more days of torture. Why end it early?

I already took enough brain damage for today, we are collectively losing IQ playing this game and the scumteam is probably laughing really fucking hard at our suffering.
My mental sanity can only take so much.

[nomnomnom]

Shes going to OD nomnom

I already OD'd a long time ago

[nomnomnom]

Luv my brother.

We could work towards a solve if you vote TDC with us. If he flips scum we have one more mislynch to afford and we can sort the difficult MJL and Saud slots.

Just putting that on the table. I know you think Blake is scum, but TDC works for all of town here in the end.

[nomnomnom]

If he's town we can do what you wanted to do today and go for blake anyway, it doesn't change much. I'm just scared of Cheeky going rogue on me here.

[nomnomnom]

Luv my brother.

We could work towards a solve if you vote TDC with us. If he flips scum we have one more mislynch to afford and we can sort the difficult MJL and Saud slots.

Just putting that on the table. I know you think Blake is scum, but TDC works for all of town here in the end.

I town read TDC though and I don’t think confirmed town sends him mail if they don’t either.

I’m afraid of Blake weaseling her way out again and being the end game lynch. I was just end gamed not too long ago (Mary Jo can attest to this) and it’s the worst feeling.

She is not going to, because both Cheeky and I will push for a Blake lynch tomorrow if TDC flips town.
It's a game of trusting each other at this point.
I would rather not discuss how F5 goes because it gives scums a roadmap.

[nomnomnom]

At the end of the day, again, scums will make a big mistake eventually. Voting TDC ensures that this mistake will happen 100%.

[nomnomnom]

She is not going to, because both Cheeky and I will push for a Blake lynch tomorrow if TDC flips town.
It's a game of trusting each other at this point.
I would rather not discuss how F5 goes because it gives scums a roadmap.

How are we both still alive?

We are not. If any of us two reaches F5 we end up pushing blake.

[nomnomnom]

We can go back to the part where I self-vote and MJL hammers me because sheep sheep sheep, then I can laugh at you in the dead PT.

Just be sure to make your final choice this time, it's not good to be indecisive.

[nomnomnom]

Skitter is probably facepalming really hard in the dead PT, I feel really sorry for her lmao

[nomnomnom]

Luv my brother.

We could work towards a solve if you vote TDC with us. If he flips scum we have one more mislynch to afford and we can sort the difficult MJL and Saud slots.

Just putting that on the table. I know you think Blake is scum, but TDC works for all of town here in the end.

I town read TDC though and I don’t think confirmed town sends him mail if they don’t either.

I’m afraid of Blake weaseling her way out again and being the end game lynch. I was just end gamed not too long ago (Mary Jo can attest to this) and it’s the worst feeling.

She is not going to, because both Cheeky and I will push for a Blake lynch tomorrow if TDC flips town.
It's a game of trusting each other at this point.
I would rather not discuss how F5 goes because it gives scums a roadmap.

Pinky promise?

There is literally no other thing I have been pushing more than this, so yes, you have my word.
It would take something really fucking weird to make me deviate off that in F5.

[nomnomnom]

Fine but I’m still not happy.

VOTE: TDC

I definitely will buy you the first beer if we ever meet. Thank you.

[nomnomnom]

Blake sadly doesn’t seem to be happening today Mary Jo.

It could happen if Cheeky committed to the hammer, but yeah, not gonna happen.

[nomnomnom]

I won't judge you if you hammer this LUV.

That just means we have to debate who pays the first beer with a coinflip however

[nomnomnom]

Pray for me in the dead PT.

[nomnomnom]

Saudade still not hammering anything.

[nomnomnom]

You lot are starting to get on my nerves

GOOD

[nomnomnom]

Saudade still not hammering anything.

Do i look like you can manipulate me like this

Yes actually.

[nomnomnom]

No

[nomnomnom]

It's okay cheeky once we meet with LUV I'll buy you a drink too for all this trouble we went through

[nomnomnom]

ex dee

[nomnomnom]

You're not even copying my style properly. First you need to cause yourself to have a horrible sleep and have constant anxiety. It's only then that you can reach the nom's true martial form that is "losing your fucking mind"

[nomnomnom]

I thought you cared about me

[nomnomnom]

Anyone here who would spare saudade in any possible endgame they could feature in after the town-me scum-blake lynch series?

I'm not answering that.

[nomnomnom]

LUV: endgame with nom and saudade. What do you do.

I'm not answering that.

[nomnomnom]

If you are answering that question you give a roadplan for scum and that's atrocious. You should just commit instead of doing whatever the hell this is.

[nomnomnom]

if everyone agrees on lynching saudade after blake, there's nothing they can do about it.

how about you try being a team player, like you ask of others?

There's a difference in handling today and tomorrow's remaining 5, rather than asking everyone to subscribe for a definitive F3. One is good, the other is completely insane and you probably should stop being an idiot about it.

[nomnomnom]

Ya ever consider if we're just being idiots and you two are actually TvT

[nomnomnom]

Scums too busy laughing in their pt probably

[nomnomnom]

Although I think Saud would have already caused a lynch on any of you then death tunneled on me on F5 so you know

[nomnomnom]

You really think I'm making a mistake by lynching you here? Serious question.

[nomnomnom]

Final 5.

[nomnomnom]

Honestly I'm going to say it again, it doesn't matter what's the final result of this 1v1 is. This is just minmaxing our last mislynch here. If we get it right we can afford a mislynch tomorrow and that's great, so this is still kind of important, but yeah.

[nomnomnom]

If TDC flips scum we can also reconsider MJL for the really scummy turn this day has had on her, so this is also really great.

The amount of associatives existing if TDC flips scums makes this an easy town victory on top of having me, town!blake and an IC in the townpool. Town cannot lose in that configuration which is why I've been pushing this so hard. If that's not the case then it's okay, lynch blake, move on to F3, the usual.

[nomnomnom]

Did someone claim innocent child, or are we referring to cheeky as that because she's confirmed town?

Latter, I just like using that term instead of "mason".

[nomnomnom]

The problem is that I'm not as convinced of TDC anymore, nom. I still find it more likely than not, but there are scenarios I can see where he is not.

There are a lot of scenarios this game but again, as I detailed in I believe 1553 TDC must be the optimal lynch. Egopushes will lose us the game.

[nomnomnom]

Blake is trapped if you flip scum so you must die.

[nomnomnom]

if you flip town

im tired

[nomnomnom]

Don't you trust me in solving this game?

Go ahead and self-vote.

[nomnomnom]

Hard to trust anyone when you get a scum pm huh

[nomnomnom]

I can already feel it.

[nomnomnom]

I mean if you were good in solving, we wouldn't have this discussion about me having to self hammer so you accept reality.

You'll never actually do it, so it doesn't matter.

[nomnomnom]

Oh look its TDC again with a pretentious attitude like hes any good at this fucking game

who's good at this table except you tbh

You need to accept the $1000 I just sent you for mafia coaching by the way

[nomnomnom]

Saudade, what are you seeing in nom?

my reflection, in a game long ago

deep

[nomnomnom]

Also Blake if you actually vote me right now I'll push your wagon so if you're town you better not let the PTSD surface

[nomnomnom]

Blake is a strong independent woman and she will do as she pleases

openwolfing this hard should be a crime

[nomnomnom]

Trust me, let's just speedlynch this. You'll actually get nothing of substance, you'll have Blake coming and AtEing her ass off and saying everyone is useless, Saud is going to mock your ass, and LUV is not going to be there much, so there's actually no point in wasting a lot of time here.

[nomnomnom]

VOTE: LUV
vote here, nomnom
i dare u

Give me a good reason to.

[nomnomnom]

Why are we not lynching this clown again

[nomnomnom]

must not egopush...

[nomnomnom]

easy katka

[nomnomnom]

Thinking about hammering blake

[nomnomnom]

easy katka

i will end u

you thought you were the only one here with the dotka references huh you silly goose

[nomnomnom]

I think nom+LUV is possible.

Okay, I'll give you a good 30 minutes to go back to logical you before I hammer your ass

[nomnomnom]

there is no peace with me in a game

[nomnomnom]

Blake do you honestly legit believe me/you/dtc is scum or do you go off the tangent that I'm catloaving bis here

[nomnomnom]

me/you/dtc is town

[nomnomnom]

Why am I laughing nervously

Last time this happened it was with Skygazer and she was bullshitting through the roof and I just didn't have the guts to hammer

For fuck sake dude

[nomnomnom]

What's the endgame here blake? Honest question

[nomnomnom]

There's none. I just want to know your perspective here. Open ended on purpose.

[nomnomnom]

Okay TDC help me out here.

What's happening with Blake dude

[nomnomnom]

She actually can't hammer here, Saudade. It's a disadvantage regardless of alignment.

Please don't tempt me.

[nomnomnom]

TDC is a shit peasant who doesnt listen to me because hes good at this game

I'm not listening to you because you are not even trying to convince me.

Really has nothing to do with good or bad.

so you just sit there playing a game of mafia waiting to be convinced?

remind me how you townread the guy again

[nomnomnom]

VOTE: Blake

Screw this. Show me the flips dealer.

[nomnomnom]

Blake for fuck sake

[nomnomnom]

The mafia finally made a mistake, and that mistake was leaving me alive.

[nomnomnom]

Listen up, I know what happened this game. And I understand that a lot of people will get mad at me because they think I was not being cooperative. But the truth is that we had a townmeddling. We had something going on all game long. We had confirmed townies to basically go against scum. The disaster that happened this game is that nobody did anything with the townmeddling. We legit had a good block going. This should have never happened. But the reluctance to come to a consensus, especially on a LUV or saudade lynch day one was pretty telling of the kind of experience that was going to happen this game.

Day 2 is just a continuation of showing how badly you can screw up even if you happen to have a strong townmeddling. The aim was getting me and Blake today and basically solve this game with her. The moment she deviated from the plan is the moment I started doubting. And that's all because you guys were too stubborn to accept that we were just going to power through scum no matter who the actual combination was. I felt pretty guilty because I used to think this was my fault. But no. It's all of town's fault. It should never have happened. When you have town meddlings, you NEVER EVER let your doubts eat you alive for the day. That's the worst. The fact that our two masons couldn't even reach a consensus on day one despite being MASONS is pretty mind boggling. But whatever.

[nomnomnom]

And I know you do not trust me, and that's alright. This isn't about me anymore. I am the voice of Blake and Skitter. If I am genuinely wrong on this last vote, that means that they failed me and that they should have listened to me from the start. If this goes through, well... the blame is more on my side, but it was a game of my trust that was being played with.

[nomnomnom]

The mafia doesn't realize this, but they actually have lost if this is correct.

VOTE: LUV

This is the vote of Blake and Skitter. If you are town and want to reach F3, this is the vote. We'll know if this is wrong if this is followed by a quickhammer, and at this time, we can classify as a colossal town failure because despite having a townmeddling of 4 people we could not do anything with it. That's all I'm going to say.

[nomnomnom]

I legit got mad this game. At myself and at other people that I was sure were town, but extremely stubborn. But that's okay. I put way too much emotion into this game in particular and this is a lesson for the future for me. It doesn't matter as long as you listen to the voice of reason.

[nomnomnom]

As long as you rationally think that my vote is the vote of Skitter and Blake, and that I called day one that there is one scum in the triplet, then we win.

Saud believes I am bussing my partner yet doesn't vote LUV. Saudade basically either threw or is the second scum. And if it's the latter, then he's just forcing the 1v1 today rather than tomorrow.

Scum made a mistake today. And that mistake was leaving me alive.

[nomnomnom]

Just believe in the ghost trick, and we win together. For Skitter and for Blake!

[nomnomnom]

You, Nom nom, may possibly be the voice of reason. But you're also the least trustworthy person in the game right now. So I'm going to need to think long and hard about how awesome your game solving skills really are, and whether or not you're actually coming from a town position and not a scum position.

I know that. I am simply carrying Skitter's and Blake's gamesolving with me, which is what I wanted from the start. As long as you believe in our collective sorting skills, we cannot lose. If you do not trust me, trust Blake and Skitter with their reads. I did this to prove a point. It's better to have someone leading everyone, rather than 3 good solvers that do not listen to each other.

Saudade just locked himself if he really is scum. You have to understand how illogical it is to believe I am bussing my partner, yet not voting the guy if that's what he thinks. It's as simple as that.

[nomnomnom]

Frankly, I would pit myself against Saudade too, but it's really just as simple as trust Blake, Skitter, and as a result, me. I actually do not need to flood the thread with reasons to make you think Saud and LUV are scums because not only are they apparent, but the fact of the matter is that the townmeddling will actually win here.

I have nothing else to say. I win or lose with these two here, even if they are dead.

[nomnomnom]

You, Nom nom, may possibly be the voice of reason. But you're also the least trustworthy person in the game right now. So I'm going to need to think long and hard about how awesome your game solving skills really are, and whether or not you're actually coming from a town position and not a scum position.

I know that. I am simply carrying Skitter's and Blake's gamesolving with me, which is what I wanted from the start. As long as you believe in our collective sorting skills, we cannot lose. If you do not trust me, trust Blake and Skitter with their reads. I did this to prove a point. It's better to have someone leading everyone, rather than 3 good solvers that do not listen to each other.

Saudade just locked himself if he really is scum. You have to understand how illogical it is to believe I am bussing my partner, yet not voting the guy if that's what he thinks. It's as simple as that.

I don't think about games during the two day scum-plotting period. So I'll need time to comb through the thread. If you're relying on my vote, be thinking in terms of days not hours.

All 3 town need to vote the scum here. If Saudade is not throwing as town, it means that he never busses LUV here. So I need to convince both of you and TDC to just be trustful of our collective game solving. And you'll see what I say is true in the long run, so, again, I'll leave you to it.

[nomnomnom]

Did you have these posts pre-made and pre-written in a text file?

I'm not going to bother responding to you, it's just going to feed town's insecurity about me being alive, when they simply need to trust Blake and Skitter instead. If they can't trust two flipped townie's solving in favor of a guy that tunneled on two townies? We are doomed anyway. So it doesn't matter.

Don't listen to this guy and focus on what I told you. It's Blake and Skitter's game solving at play here. Trust them or lose together.

[nomnomnom]

I did so to confirm myself that I was not being tricked, and that instead, this was town blake pushing her solve. I knew that as long as we could carry a unique push together, that we literally couldn't fail.

Now hush.

[nomnomnom]

First of, sorry Blake that I was unable to reconsider you. I should have tried.
I will happily have saudade mock me for this if he is town.

Nom: Why am I suddenly conf town for you?

You weren't. But Saudade just locked himself in a corner here, which confirms the LUV and Saudade pair. He backed himself in a corner. He basically slipped when he said I was bussing my partner, yet decided to vote me.

[nomnomnom]

Again, all of this is really simple if you consider that all I am pushing here is Blake's and Skitter's solve. If you do not trust them, by all means vote me out, so we can all lose together. But if you trust in our collective solving, then the only answer here is LUV.

[nomnomnom]

It rubs you the wrong way because it comes from me. But you can see for yourself, go back to day 1, and Skitter/Blake had a collective LUV scumread, yet did not push him, which was my initial paranoia moment. If they trusted each other then and voted LUV, we literally would have won day 1. It was a matter of trusting each other.

Day 2, I had to hammer blake to see if her solve was coming from a town member or if she was pulling one on me. Turns out she was not. She still believes LUV is scum. Nothing changed from day 1.

So really. Go back through this game and reread it carefully. This is not about me anymore. I laid my cards on the table. That's all I have here.

[nomnomnom]

I don't see why saudade should not vote for either of his solve.

He never solved anything. He pushed cheeky hardcore, then when she revealed herself as mason, he pushed the creature lynch, then tunneled on me. There was no solve. He is not even pushing for his """""LUV""""" solve despite it being there all game long.

[nomnomnom]

Why did you push for me all day long iuf hammering Blake is all teheinfo you need?

Because I had this idea that if I townmeddled with blake and forced a solve with her, that's all I needed to win. I trusted

her

solve with all of this. I knew townmeddling with Blake would bring me victory.

[nomnomnom]

LUV, it's over. At this point, scum if in the Saud/me/LUV pairing, otherwise this game would have ended already.

You can stop pretending anytime.

[nomnomnom]

It is that simple. If it's not that means we literally failed us 3 at solving the game and that we could not reach a consensus. So all I'm doing here is making sure to respect the only true consensus us 3 will reach this game.

[nomnomnom]

HAHAHAHAHAAHA LUV IS REFUSING TO VOTE HIS PARTNER EVEN THOUGH SHES CONFIRMED TO HIM LMAO

lol, you need acting lessons dude

[nomnomnom]

Here's what's going to happen. LUV is going to do the opposite of what I did and refuse to indulge Saudade in his desperate reach, in order to confuse town.

Just watch.

TDC and MJL, make sure to reach your decision quickly. Today is what matters, but these two will make their best to just confuse you. Just go back to earlier days and realize that we all reached the same consensus subconsciously.

[nomnomnom]

not refuse*

[nomnomnom]

There's nothing to be confused there honey
LUV just confirmed both of you with his slip

Well okay, just vote LUV then.

[nomnomnom]

lol

Good luck, TDC and MJL. Just discuss things through between you two. Ignore the two idiots.

[nomnomnom]

lol

Good luck, TDC and MJL. Just discuss things through between you two. Ignore the two idiots.

Starting to think you might be scum here Nom.

What happened to drinks after the game?

I'm sorry we rolled different teams.
The drink offer still stands though. You basically let town rip itself apart with paranoia, when we could have legit got you day 1. So props to you for that. I'm getting a drink with you regardless of the outcome of this game

But right now, it's just a battle of wits. So good luck.

[nomnomnom]

The only thing I'm trying to work out is who is Blake's partner if she is scum. And honestly my mind goes to TDC and MJL. The other possibility is that it's saudade and that she banks on town losing on F3.

So what I propose is that we lynch blake today. If she flips scum we need to lynch MJL because the miller claim is still fucking around with my mind. If she doesn't, Saudade must be scum in every scenario.

Feel free to reconcile this post with the town meddling stuff.

There is no reconciliation. I just wanted to work with Blake all the way through. That's all that mattered until I realized we would not reach consensus anymore. That's all there is to it.

I am tired out of my mind now. Going to bed.

[nomnomnom]

MJL: take as much time as you need.

I'm leaning saudade-town here.

I know I said I wouldn't try to cloud your judgement but honestly, just look at the type of player you are dealing with here, look at what he has done during the game, look at what he tunneled on, look at how he talks. I don't know man, if you just want to lynch me because you do not trust

me

when I said I basically represent Blake and Skitter with this final vote, I'll be honestly pissed because despite my errors, voting me is literally never correct here.

[nomnomnom]

And again, if you think there is 100% no way that Saudade and me is SvS, you should be voting LUV because it extends town to F3 and it shows that this was right all along and that Saud tried to end it today. Look at how they played the beginning of today and you'll understand. They have trapped themselves!

[nomnomnom]

he is trying to make me sound like an AtE master with something that is the most logical thing ever, which is to carry the town's deduction with me until I die. That's the most pro-town move. If you think both these guys are wrong, then go ahead and finish me here and realize how stupid this all is when you get that the entire reason you want me out is because I wanted to lynch you yesterday, without even trying to understand my intentions behind it.

[nomnomnom]

Saudade is voting me here because he wants to get you to finish it today. They do not have daytalk anymore so the best way to do this is to force a 2-way as scum and get your partner to hammer the poor sod that votes the townie. That's the entire reason why Saud is voting me here and why he would never shift his vote to LUV, because it would require too much scum coordination.

[nomnomnom]

If that isn't new information I don't really know what is. But again, I just urge you to look at Blake's and Skitter's reasoning about LUV. This is the entire reason why I am voting LUV and why I did not insta-vote you today. It's because I trust in all of our abilities to end this.

[nomnomnom]

Again, I know you do not trust me because of the actions I've taken this game. But just take a stepback, and look at saudade's iso for one second. How is this town??? I asked Blake the same question yesterday and I was just fucking confused at the answer. Objectively this is not even town.

[nomnomnom]

I doubt MJL would've gone for me-lynch, and even saudade probably not.

So how was it gonna happen?

Because self-deduction and I made it clear to scum that my intention was to vote you if we ever reached F5, which is what scums want. They wanted to keep me alive so I make that poor decision. And that's why I said early day that they made a mistake keeping me alive, because it was an agenda-driven move to get to F5. I'm aware it doesn't make me look good, but I don't care about looking good, all I cared about is making sure scums made a mistake today and revealed themselves, and they did, and I'm glad they did because I had this pathological fear about MJL for the whole game and that would have caused me to probably overpanic in F3.

[nomnomnom]

How and why would blake-town flip make you discount saudade-me pair you were pushing before?

How should I believe that you would not have lynched blake today had I been flipped?

Because I wanted to town-meddle with blake and solve this game with her in F5. That was the entire reason for me pushing your lynch yesterday, because then the next logical move is to kill cheeky, and I end with blake in F5 and that's an insta-win right there. I had to basically ensure myself that she was town in order to properly carry her scumreads today forward. That's all I did.

[nomnomnom]

There is just no way in hell that the kill would not have been the mason.

Cheeky was not confident about driving yesterday forward and that's a fact. If I hammered blake early I can ensure you, 1000%, that the configuration today would be with Cheeky and that the possibility to make a mistake would have been much more increased.

[nomnomnom]

I bring it up many times because it's a fact. Cheeky was simply not a good IC. The masons did not have any consensus and were disorganized. If left unchecked they make a mistake on LYLO situations. I tell you this because it's literally what happened my last normal game!!!! just go check it out and you'll understand my fixation this game with getting to F5.

[nomnomnom]

I'm not digging up the posts where you call, repeatedly, for her lynch if I flip town.

Literally the entire day I said that you were TvS and that one of you must be scum. That was my entire open reasoning. The truth is that I wanted to get to F5 with Blake today and that as long as we went forward with that plan there was no way she was scum in my mind.

[nomnomnom]

Cheeky would not have lynched me or MJL.
Any scum team would have needed to NK her.

This is super obvious.

I simply don't trust her. I don't care about your opinion about that. Put that aside and just reread this entire game. Do not make the stupid gamble move today, just vote LUV and go to F3. There is literally no way that Saudade and me is SvS and you know it.

[nomnomnom]

I would ragepost but I brought this on myself so you know. I'm just going to repeat this over and over again.

This is not about me. This is about Blake and Skitter's deduction on who is scum. If I was wrong I would have taken the loss and moved on. But this caused the scumteam to make a mistake.

[nomnomnom]

And even if you think Cheeky was right, Cheeky was basically dead set on Saudade being scum. So if you want to trust the IC that's a good thing. Just commit to it and stop listening to the voice in your ehad that says "GOD I HATE WHAT SHE DID IT MUST BE SCUM!!!". I am logical here despite the bad look I am giving.

[nomnomnom]

You can basically ignore LUV's posts by the way, it should also be obvious as to who the scum is when the 100% outed scum tries shading one person in the 1v1.

[nomnomnom]

I would ragepost but I brought this on myself so you know. I'm just going to repeat this over and over again.

This is not about me. This is about Blake and Skitter's deduction on who is scum. If I was wrong I would have taken the loss and moved on. But this caused the scumteam to make a mistake.

Why should I sheep D1 blake, when D2 blake thought you were scum?

She only thought that I was scum at the end of the day because nothing happened and the paranoia got to her. Day 1 she basically outlined that I was sorting efficiently as town and that it was radically different from the one game I played with her (Catloaves), and day 2 she had a strong townread on me but you guys let it go for wayyyyy too long, and what happens when you let things go on for too long is that you start doubting yourself and come to dumb conclusions. Which, again, is why I called early for a speedlynch. But whatever.

[nomnomnom]

Day 2 went on for about a day and a half.

But we went on for pages and pages and the action stretches out for hours on end.

[nomnomnom]

You should know, you thought we basically stayed up all night. Pretty sure you haven't forgotten

[nomnomnom]

Again, the only reason we lose here is if you think my insistence, annoyance, boldness, abrasive nature comes from scum and not from a townie that wants to basically try to win despite the massive fuckups that were caused during this game when we basically were all right all along.

[nomnomnom]

And let me be clear here: I fucked up. Big time. I caused town to be sidetracked with bullshit simply because I was honestly angered at the fact Creature was the compromise lynch d1 when we should have hammered saudade because tunneltunneltunnel or LUV because I called the scum was between skit/blake/luv, that skit was a claimed mason and that blake was actively reducing a PoE which would eventually get her caught if she was scum. So I did a bunch of stupid shit and I heavily regret to have caused people to lose their shit over this game. I made this game about me when it shouldn't have been this way, and it was profoundly unhealthy for me.

I sincerely deserve to lose this game. The thing is that the entire town doesn't. That's why I think it's just more preferable to call to people's reasoning, even if they happen to be dead, rather than mine, because I know your trust factor with me is at 0% and that you really wish I was scum for my garbage attitude. Don't pull the trigger over something irrational. Just re-read all the early skitter, blake and cheeky reads about LUV and Saud and if you trust them, vote with them.

[nomnomnom]

Just imagine if I was scum here for a second.

Give me a good reason why I wouldn't simply push your lynch today and simply follow my word of yesterday. Think about it: I would be causing a ludicrous 1v1 against you, and it's most likely that I would lose it, but then you guys get to F3 with either TDC that has to sort between Saud/LUV, or MJL that has to sort between the two. And you two have had doubts about these two slots the entire game. The entire town has, and having to choose one scum between them is borderline impossible. And we don't even begin to come to the F3 paranoia that makes people reconsider your slots and makes this a complete nightmare.

Instead what happened is that I locked things up with making the 2 scums 100% being between Saudade, LUV and me. Why the fuck would I do that as scum?

[nomnomnom]

I basically made LUV 100% confirmed scum with my action. Tell me why I would force a 1v1 with Saudade given my extremely bad reputation this game if I am scum. This is basically team suicide. This is nonsensical.

[nomnomnom]

That's what I did in Catloaves by the way. I made sure to never force a deadly lock that would make my partner implicated with me. I was basically confirmed scum with what I did but it left my partner in the dark and safely secured our win. This is the opposite happening here. I forced a locked situation.

[nomnomnom]

On that same note, I want to point out that Saudade and LUV have both insisted that I was a cunning manipulator and gave me back-handed "compliments" about my scumgame. They want you to think that I am a 7D chess type of person that just fucks with everyone's head constantly. But that's not true. My LYLO game here is drastically different from what happened in Catloaves. You can clearly see the difference in terms of confidence. I was completely lost in that game and I basically went with the only winning strategy, which was to try and remove the spotlight from my partner's spot and direct it into me with complete confusion and conspiracy theories. Never in a million years am I that confident as scum. And the day I am, I fucking deserve that Don Corleone award. But here I basically displayed that if I scum, what I did is just plain bad for my team's agenda as a whole. It would just objectively be subpar. That's not how I play as scum. I tend to be more devious and let town make some deduction mistakes. This game is a complete 180 from that.

[nomnomnom]

LUV is mechanically locked as scum.

[nomnomnom]

Such a threatening gif

Still having a drink after the game, yeah?

[nomnomnom]

Imagine if I actually wasted my breath and that LUV is town and that I get quickhammered here. Complete embarrassment honestly.

[nomnomnom]

LUV is mechanically locked as scum.

Great! Can you please spell this out for me like I'm a four-year-old? How *exactly* is LUV mechanically locked as scum.

He isn't.

.........

You guys honestly need to pay attention, christ.

[nomnomnom]

I voted LUV, Saudade voted me. None of us got quickhammered. That means the scumpair is in me/Saudade/LUV, even more so when I have 2 votes on me and I am not dead yet.

Unless you believe that me and Saudade is the scumteam, LUV is mechanically locked as scum. Hell even Saud said outright that "I was bussing my partner" yet voted me. There are reasons for Saud to vote me and not LUV early here, and that's because it's easier to follow a quickhammer on me were you to vote me out of spite. If you take your time to think things through, it's easy to see Saud/LUV is the scumteam. They are banking on my bad image getting me lynched today, but I know it's not going to happen if I say that the vote is simply me follow Blake and Skitter's solve post death. That's all there is to it. I would never force this kind of situation as scum either, not with that bad of an image.

[nomnomnom]

Mechanically locked is when you confirm someone through a mechanical action. My early today vote caused us three to be in this situation, and Saudade's vote outed LUV as scum 100%. That's why I said "mechanically locked".

[nomnomnom]

Were I to hold my vote today and not force this kind of situation and we would still be in the dark, but instead I just followed Blake and Skitter's solve. It's as simple as that.

[nomnomnom]

And I already explained how me forcing this kind of solve is just bad play if I rolled scum this game, because I am banking my entire gameplan on a 1v1 that I have high chances to lose because of the bad rep I got this game, instead of, again, causing confusion on F3 and improving the team's odds. That's why I am not scum this game. All the facts point at me being town, but your emotions point at me being scum. That's the truth and that's the entire dilemma you are dealing with here.

[nomnomnom]

Mechanically locked is when you confirm someone through a mechanical action. My early today vote caused us three to be in this situation, and Saudade's vote outed LUV as scum 100%. That's why I said "mechanically locked".

Not really, no.

This is why I wanted a F5 with Blake and not you two.

[nomnomnom]

Fucking hell Blake. You should just have not flinched yesterday. For fuck saaaaaake.

[nomnomnom]

If you are scum, you don't lose when you get lynched today, though. You only need to get your partner through.

YES! So why, as scum, would I spent my time mechanically locking my team when I could just have followed through my word of yesterday, vote you early, say something like "yeah welp if im wrong you guys suxxx"? This would cause the same kind of situation except my partner doesn't get locked and the last remaining person on F3 needs to sort through 2 impossible slots, on top of my partner having the chance to get paranoia on the third slot. It makes no sense, for christ sake!! I don't play like this as scum, it's just stupid.

[nomnomnom]

I'm telling you: The facts point at me being town, but you just wish really fucking hard I was scum because of how I acted this game. The thing is that you think you're going to punish me with a vote on me, but you're simply going to cost yourself the game doing this. Just take a step back. It's REALLY easy once you put your emotions aside for a second.

[nomnomnom]

Just read through this carefully again.

Just imagine if I was scum here for a second.

Give me a good reason why I wouldn't simply push your lynch today and simply follow my word of yesterday. Think about it: I would be causing a ludicrous 1v1 against you, and it's most likely that I would lose it, but then you guys get to F3 with either TDC that has to sort between Saud/LUV, or MJL that has to sort between the two. And you two have had doubts about these two slots the entire game. The entire town has, and having to choose one scum between them is borderline impossible. And we don't even begin to come to the F3 paranoia that makes people reconsider your slots and makes this a complete nightmare.

Instead what happened is that I locked things up with making the 2 scums 100% being between Saudade, LUV and me. Why the fuck would I do that as scum?

I basically made LUV 100% confirmed scum with my action. Tell me why I would force a 1v1 with Saudade given my extremely bad reputation this game if I am scum. This is basically team suicide. This is nonsensical.

[nomnomnom]

And let me be clear here: I fucked up. Big time. I caused town to be sidetracked with bullshit simply because I was honestly angered at the fact Creature was the compromise lynch d1 when we should have hammered saudade because tunneltunneltunnel or LUV because I called the scum was between skit/blake/luv, that skit was a claimed mason and that blake was actively reducing a PoE which would eventually get her caught if she was scum. So I did a bunch of stupid shit and I heavily regret to have caused people to lose their shit over this game. I made this game about me when it shouldn't have been this way, and it was profoundly unhealthy for me.

I sincerely deserve to lose this game. The thing is that the entire town doesn't. That's why I think it's just more preferable to call to people's reasoning, even if they happen to be dead, rather than mine, because I know your trust factor with me is at 0% and that you really wish I was scum for my garbage attitude. Don't pull the trigger over something irrational. Just re-read all the early skitter, blake and cheeky reads about LUV and Saud and if you trust them, vote with them.

[nomnomnom]

I voted LUV, Saudade voted me. None of us got quickhammered. That means the scumpair is in me/Saudade/LUV, even more so when I have 2 votes on me and I am not dead yet.

Unless you believe that me and Saudade is the scumteam, LUV is mechanically locked as scum. Hell even Saud said outright that "I was bussing my partner" yet voted me. There are reasons for Saud to vote me and not LUV early here, and that's because it's easier to follow a quickhammer on me were you to vote me out of spite. If you take your time to think things through, it's easy to see Saud/LUV is the scumteam. They are banking on my bad image getting me lynched today, but I know it's not going to happen if I say that the vote is simply me follow Blake and Skitter's solve post death. That's all there is to it. I would never force this kind of situation as scum either, not with that bad of an image.

With respect, hugs, and kisses to Blake, she tinfoil hatted me into a position where I was fake role claiming town miller as scum. She knows full and well I can't do that. So I will read Blake's posts, and I will dissect them the best that I can, but I have to also consider that paranoia was a factor in her reads.

Then you should know that how she acted the remaining of the day was paranoia-fueled, as I was saying earlier! I told you this, this is the entire reason why she started doubting me, it's because no consensus was being reached and she started letting her mind wander through solves that were fueled with paranoia. You out of all players should know this. The fact of the matter is that she had both of us town for the entire game until you guys REFUSED to just lynch TDC and go to F5. This is the result of that. There is a reason for everything this game. It's literally the same reason creature got lynched in the end, it's because town was just too stubborn as a whole.

[nomnomnom]

If I want to read some of your posts again, I can pull them up myself, thanks.

You never win LYLOs with this attitude friend. Just putting that out there. I am putting your arguments against facts to show you that most of your doubt on me is based on emotions, and the fact that you hate how I played this game and that the natural conclusion your mind wants to reach is that I am scum for it, and that it would feel really fucking good to hammer me right now as a catharsis mechanism.

[nomnomnom]

I'm telling you: The facts point at me being town, but you just wish really fucking hard I was scum because of how I acted this game. The thing is that you think you're going to punish me with a vote on me, but you're simply going to cost yourself the game doing this. Just take a step back. It's REALLY easy once you put your emotions aside for a second.

How about you put my "emotions" aside? It is really tedious. I honestly don't give a fuck whether you win or not.

Yeah, I'm with TDC here. I will not be swayed with charisma, pleading, or any displays of emotion. Don't tell me stuff, show me.

I have done so this entire day.

[nomnomnom]

I'm essentially doing my best not to cause a town loss here and make you understand what truly is happening, and to avoid the situation where you hammer me out of spite. It's emotional-antipathy against my slot versus facts here.

[nomnomnom]

I really don't know what you're trying to achieve here. Do you want to create some self-fulfilling prophecy where you annoy me so much going on about how I hate you that I finally do hate you and do it?

No, I am literally pointing out your thought process so we do not get there, especially when the scumteam is really obvious from an outsider perspective. The fact that LUV is STILL trying to shade me and has not done so with Saud is another big tell of who the scumteam is. Look at what he is doing right now: he is trying to make it seem like I am AtEing and that I actually have no facts to support the things I am saying when I spent the entirety of today showing you things that make me really impossible to be scum. I played day 2 really badly, but the facts still support me being town.

[nomnomnom]

The only thing you’ve decided to do today is turn into just a brick wall like your scum buddy. You are a following a solve that had someone who hadn’t even replaced in at the time and someone with less than 20 or so posts in a PoE pool. That’s facts for ya.

What brick wall? I have two people on my slot and I am not hammered yet. How am I a brick wall when you guys make it confirmed from my POV that you are the last 2 remaining scums? lol

Nice facts.

[nomnomnom]

All you’re doing is pleading that we trust Blake and Skitter’s solve because you can’t possibly be wrong about their being scum in us 3. You aren’t trying to solve the game anymore and that means you’re scum.

I don't need to do this anymore since the scumteam is LITERALLY confirmed to me from my POV. I am helping the other two townies to reach the same conclusion as me here. "Not trying to solve anymore". Nice joke.

[nomnomnom]

Honestly if I get hammered despite the two people on my slot invoking the faultiest arguments ever to push a quicklynch on me, I'm going to be really pissed. But again, I brought this on myself.

[nomnomnom]

Another fact is you can see how LUV and Saudade have been interacting today is SvS, versus how I interacted towards both of them and you are going to see clear as day that they simply do not interact between each other. Saudade made sure to tunnel on me and is just committed to his wall tunnel and LUV is just pushing me heavily on a 1v1.

[nomnomnom]

All you’re doing is pleading that we trust Blake and Skitter’s solve because you can’t possibly be wrong about their being scum in us 3. You aren’t trying to solve the game anymore and that means you’re scum.

I don't need to do this anymore since the scumteam is LITERALLY confirmed to me from my POV. I am helping the other two townies to reach the same conclusion as me here. "Not trying to solve anymore". Nice joke.

Good. What would really be helpful is if you'll answer my questions over the next few days as unimpassionately as possible. Sticks to facts and meta as demonstrated through past games.

You have yet to ask a question to me, or to TDC for that matter, which you REALLY should be doing right now.

[nomnomnom]

TDC doesn’t scum read Saudade. I don’t know where Mary Jo stands. Stop.

Scummiest statement of the century.

[nomnomnom]

Another fact is you can see how LUV and Saudade have been interacting today is SvS, versus how I interacted towards both of them and you are going to see clear as day that they simply do not interact between each other. Saudade made sure to tunnel on me and is just committed to his wall tunnel and LUV is just pushing me heavily on a 1v1.

Okay, I'm not so sure that you know what a fact is. I think we can still work together, though.

Okay then just go back and see how they interacted between each other. That is not how townies interact between each other. The fact that we reached LYLO and that this is how these two slots handled conversation shows a SvS. If not fact, qualify that as astute observation.

[nomnomnom]

You are giving me wayyyyy too much credit if you think my scumgame can handle a long scumtheater ploy like it happened this game. I am not good at all. This is a weakpoint of my scumgame alongside fear of causing my scumteam to be locked, which again, is the opposite of what happened this game. If you want to take days out to think about this then just read through Catloaves while keeping in mind that I am scum that game. You will see the stark contrast with this game by the end of it.

[nomnomnom]

Nomnom how many games have you lost as scum

Not many i bet you demon

Nomnom how many games have you lost as scum

None on this site so far.

Even i have a scum loss ):
Ur getting smashed here lad/y

Dont worry, you've been caught by the best

Im what stands between your lynch and nomnoms sweeping this table

I can see why you've never lost a scum game tbh
very well played so far

[nomnomnom]

And before you ask why this is relevant

On that same note, I want to point out that Saudade and LUV have both insisted that I was a cunning manipulator and gave me back-handed "compliments" about my scumgame. They want you to think that I am a 7D chess type of person that just fucks with everyone's head constantly. But that's not true. My LYLO game here is drastically different from what happened in Catloaves. You can clearly see the difference in terms of confidence. I was completely lost in that game and I basically went with the only winning strategy, which was to try and remove the spotlight from my partner's spot and direct it into me with complete confusion and conspiracy theories. Never in a million years am I that confident as scum. And the day I am, I fucking deserve that Don Corleone award. But here I basically displayed that if I scum, what I did is just plain bad for my team's agenda as a whole. It would just objectively be subpar. That's not how I play as scum. I tend to be more devious and let town make some deduction mistakes. This game is a complete 180 from that.

[nomnomnom]

Let Mary Jo and TDC do their own meta dives. I can pull the self-meta card too and say I would never have gotten suspected early on in the game too.

I in fact invited them to do so but thanks for the concern.

[nomnomnom]

Putting my thoughts down there but I just realize that the best arguments I've had today are still at the very beginning of today. The fact the game has not ended is proof that Skitter and Blake's gamesolving was right. It's as simple as it gets.

[nomnomnom]

if either is fine why not switch to LUV

I triple dare you

[nomnomnom]

big shock

[nomnomnom]

Vote me and ill vote luv

what's the point?
this lylo already is working great for me, the scumteam made itself apparent through their voting lol

[nomnomnom]

@Nomnomnom, who is scum in this game?

Saudade and LUV? Both scums are voting me otherwise I would already be dead. Again, I voted LUV early because I trusted Blake and I wanted to force the scums to make a lock move so I can stop doubting about you and TDC and it worked. Again, if I was scum, I would never have done this (as in cause my team to be hardlocked this way).

[nomnomnom]

It's kinda sad that TDC is legit considering hammering me right now despite LUV and Saudade being really obvious as a scum team.

[nomnomnom]

We're never going to make any good progress at this rate, damn it.

[nomnomnom]

I am lazy this game and I need someone with good reads to conftown, congrats
If you lynchwrong i hang u so no pressure

i think scum is 2 of {blake/luv/creature/nom} with an outside chance of saudade
actually maybe take nom out

Funny how you can get things right from the very beginning lmao

[nomnomnom]

Just had to include saudade. I'm still confused how Skitter and Blake read him as town. That confused me fucking ultra hard day 2.

[nomnomnom]

Nom: how do you feel about endgaming with saudade and mjl?

F3 doesn't matter because if the other scum flips today I am guaranteed to be town, especially if it's Saudade flipping today. I'll vote there if you want me to, my vote of LUV is only there because again, I forced a locked situation today to make my mind 100% sure of who was scum because I still did not trust you or MJL.

[nomnomnom]

You want me voting Saudade? What do you think has the highest chance to clear me 100% today?

[nomnomnom]

Point is it literally doesn't matter who I endgame with because LUV or Saudade flipping scum today shows why they played this way today and we just have an easy win tomorrow. I forced scums to make the wrong move here. Saudade was coming in today with the tunnel plan expecting me to vote TDC, and voting LUV was a wrench into that plan that caused them both to be locked and push an endgame today. If their plan is revealed today they cannot win tomorrow. I can assure you of that.

[nomnomnom]

If LUV flips nothing to you then VOTE: Saudade it is. LUV vote only forced this situation so yeah.

[nomnomnom]

I have no idea what MJL is thinking though, so any possible end game seems like a coin toss for me.

It's not a cointoss if you guys just discuss it through and realize that Saudade and LUV are simply making the only move that doesn't lose them the game, and it's both of them pushing me to incite you to hammer me and finish this game. If they reach tomorrow they lose, whatever the endgame config.

[nomnomnom]

@Skygazer dude that's a cool avatar

[nomnomnom]

I have no idea what MJL is thinking though, so any possible end game seems like a coin toss for me.

It's not a cointoss if you guys just discuss it through.

That is my plan, yes. Which is why I was asking saudade why he would want to skip this.

The answer should really be obvious. Saudade tried something different this game and just tunneled on poor sods and it somehow worked. The thing that should have been the dead giveaway is just joining Creature's wagon for no reason on day 1. That's the only thing that doesn't fit the style he's been going for.

[nomnomnom]

I’ve offered to clarify and explain anything. No one has taken me up on that.

Blame your partner for making you lockscum lmao

[nomnomnom]

I’ve offered to clarify and explain anything. No one has taken me up on that.

Blame your partner for making you lockscum lmao

All you’ve been pointing out is Saudade being Saudade lol

Man I didn't know Saudade scum caused his partner to be locked on F5. That must really suck for you hahahaha

[nomnomnom]

All you’ve been pointing out is Saudade being Saudade lol

Somehow still protecting Saudade despite being lockscum in his POV. It's really obvious guys, honestly. I know I acted shit this game but come on lol

[nomnomnom]

Go ahead, vote Saudade. This should be fun lmao

[nomnomnom]

I thought Blake was lockscum and was compromising

Lockscum how?

[nomnomnom]

Yeah that's what I thought.

Nice Saudade vote by the way. It would be a shame to vote the easy mishammer on my slot huh

[nomnomnom]

not vote for the easy mishammer

[nomnomnom]

The more you talk and the more it betrays your scumteam. It's actually quite funny lol

[nomnomnom]

itt: 2 noobs that think they can beat me in lylo

It's okay your partner will never vote you here because he knows that whenever you flip scum, it's game over for you two

[nomnomnom]

nomnomnom: ill also "townread" saudade because hes an easypeasy mislynch!!!111

If I was scum looking for a mislynch on town you I would have done so yesterday 100%.

[nomnomnom]

bet the maf meeting is just nomnom talking to herself

lmao I feel called out, that's what happened in my mason PT in LYLO in cool new animals used the PT exclusively for myself and talked to myself like a maniac mostly.

Blame manic phases. Had this going on day 2 this game as well.

[nomnomnom]

truth be told is that if we lose it'll be a 2/2 loss for me n cheeky together

Good thing you're not in the same team

[nomnomnom]

I'm now thinking all this talk is probably very very VERY bad given MJL's pace. It's good because it shows you being absolute clowns but this game phase is going to last forever I swear.

Also I am still waiting for the Saud vote lol

[nomnomnom]

The only clown here is you Nom. You could’ve probably still had me pocketed if you actually faked game solving a little more.

Man it's almost like I explained that it's what I would have done as scum!!!!!!

[nomnomnom]

tunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunneltunnel

[nomnomnom]

What tells you MJL will go for it

do you honestly think i lose to luv in a 1v1???

Why not? I think MJL is a player who appreciates long, logical posts laying out a case, etc.

Not really your thing, is it.

I've a way to convince women

Not trying to be rude but it failed catastrophically so far.

[nomnomnom]

Honestly players on this website keep insulting my game abilities and I'm starting to feel hurt

Speaking honestly here, the fact that you tunneled harder than a bull running to a red flag and the fact that both Skitter and Blake SOMEHOW read you as town is pretty impressive so you know I'll give you that

[nomnomnom]

skitter #1 player
if she townread me you should all, too.

You can't steal my lines like that you fool

[nomnomnom]

So what happened to the Saudade vote

[nomnomnom]

Do it now

[nomnomnom]

hammer nomnom before luv flips AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

hahahahahaha

[nomnomnom]

Man I wonder what LUV and Saud would have done if I actually got TDC lynched today and did the same thing as I did today and tell her that she was town and voted LUV with her.

They probably would have pushed us as scum team or something.

[nomnomnom]

yesterday*

[nomnomnom]

So what happened to the Saudade vote

What’s happening is that I don’t trust town to lynch you tomorrow.

Yeah, because you know you are literally lockscum and that you 100% lose in the situation we reach F3. That and voting me ends the game today.
You're a professional bullshitter and you don't follow your word. You also never talk with Saudade because you have a weak scumtheater game. All the people you have been engaging with are town. You literally never actually talked to Saud today. This is quite impressive.

[nomnomnom]

I love being this game's antagonist, it's great. Not great for my anxiety but man I just love this feeling of being hammered and town losing and turning it around slowly but surely.

[nomnomnom]

fear feeling*

[nomnomnom]

Special shoutout to my anti-anxiety meds

[nomnomnom]

i wouldnt play mafia if it'd give me anxiety

I enjoy the thrill despite the anxiety and honestly I caused myself unecessary anxiety this game because I took it way too seriously. Like, this game in particular. I still like Mafia despite the fact it can wreck my mind sometimes lol

[nomnomnom]

i only get anxiety when im scum tho

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA