EVERYTHING IS COMPLETELY NORMAL (THE [GAME) OVER]

[Something_Smart]

Mastina, the difference is academic. The word "fakeclaim" was used

by the mod

to describe scum roles being informed of nonexistent town roles. It's a normal way of emulating a theme mechanic, which is kinda the point of this game.

[mastina]

- Day-talk is enabled.

Herpderp.

[u r a person 2]

VOTE: dj

mastina is town

that dumb tell was beneath her

[Nero Cain]

I just think it NAI.

[pisskop]

Meh I didnt read about daytalk, I assumed a [mafia inform encryptor backup loyal treestump] was in play

[pisskop]

But daytalk means that scum theatre is real.

[u r a person 2]

- Day-talk is enabled.

Herpderp.

i just mean that coming out and announcing the error with "herpaderp" doesn't feel to me like a sophisticated roll out of a dumb tell

so i think she's probably just town

[mastina]

^^ ohhhh?
Lets kill Luv, and cop em both.

Alternative idea: Rolecop Ausuka. And if you'd prefer, RedFlavor too, even though that seems unnecessary. Proven Miller = proven town, and you can't have mafia backups to town-exclusive roles. (You CAN have, sayyy, a mafia nurse inherit a town doctor because doctor is not a town-exclusive role. But you can't have a mafia backup vig because vigs are town-only. Similarly, universal backups inherit only roles of their own alignment, for much this same reasoning.) So proven Backup Miller = proven town.

Still think Ausuka's fakeclaiming and RedFlavor's realclaiming, but that's beside the point. There's no better rolecop targets in the game.

[DJ]

hey DJ, let's talk about your read on me?

skimming your iso again I think you're above random town but I couldn't remember why when color-responding to mastina's list

your day 1 engagement probably leans town

-djk

[DJ]

urap what's your read of baezu now?

[Something_Smart]

Alternative idea: Rolecop Ausuka. And if you'd prefer, RedFlavor too, even though that seems unnecessary.

I mean, yes.

But given the possibility for scum informed, what are the odds there's a town rolecop?

[mastina]

My partner's been meming, but I can assure you we're town.

Oh I think I have a guess for who YOU are, too.
Your other head I'm like 95% sure I identified right, but I took a stab in the dark guess as to your identity via PMing the mods.

(Basically, only so many players like to anonymously hydra and both heads if I'm correct, I've modded a game with them having done so previously. Not the SAME game, different games, but one anonymous hydra had one head in them from one game, and a second anonymous hydra had the other head in them from another game.)

If I'm right you jump WAY up in being scum to like 97ish% levels!

[DJ]

You're wrong on every count.

Stop trying to guess my main, just pretend I'm the duck and go from there. quack

-DJK

[mastina]

Like, Cheeky is not 100% obvtown but she does not read like a very good day 1 to me so far

Okay yeah head one is 100% the player I thought; literally only one person on site would say this like that.

Sadly, head one's identity isn't as useful to pin down for alignments as head two. Like I said, if I did in fact correctly name head two, hydra jumps up to 97% scum, but only if I guessed correctly. Head one's probably scum but I admit I'm not as good at differentiating between towngame and scumgame with head one as I am with hypothetical-head2-identity.

[Baezu]

mastina - is mastin in the game? hunh

Your fault for making 40+ pages in less than 48 hours.

Less than 24 hours, actually--the game began on Monday. I POSTED on Monday. Your post 985? Was on TUESDAY. Less than 24 hours from my post on Monday.

If I seem like I'm posting less, it aint because I haven't been around, and it aint because I'm not posting. It's because other players are spamming.

That being said.

Yes I am quite aware that I am underperforming. I'm sorry, I am struggling to really find much worth commenting on. Most of what I'm seeing is just...stuff that's not really noteworthy? Stuff that doesn't change my stances, and for the most part doesn't even reinforce them (though some content does). Most of what I'm reading is just...fluff as far as I'm concerned. Not in the sense of it being literal fluff, but in the sense of it being utterly worthless in terms of strengthening or weakening existing reads; the posts just do...nothing to change what's already there.

Which is why I adapted the readslist-as-I-go format in the first place mind you.

And even then.

My reads on the first ten pages? Changed literally every single page pretty much--not just a little, but a lot. Kinda regret not having thought of posting it for proof, because yeah that was the time they were in flux the most. The earlygame changed things much much much more than here later in the day. Because now? Now any changes are ridiculously small; there's just...nothing significant, nothing major, nothing groundbreaking, in these reads.

What I can say?

I can say that the tiers have shifted in where the town strength is.

For reference, this readslist is unchanged from my last one, but is more divided out:


RedFlavor

SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis
Nero Cain
Almost50
Chara
RCEnigma

Something_Smart

pisskop
Flavor Leaf
Lil Uzi Vert

Alchemist21

u r a person 2

Vorkuta
CheekyTeeky

Ausuka

singletonking
Baezu

DJ



This would be a more fair approximation of my stances right now. RedFlavor's basically conftown; below that's top-tier town; the pisskop-LUV tier is highly-likely-town; Something_Smart's someone I'm not sure whether he's top-tier or highly-likely town thus why he's between the two; Alchemist isn't quite as town as the highly-likely-town which is one of the reasons why I want to masonize him; URAP I think is town but is the first I'd call "possible scum"--he's nulltown; Vorkuta/Cheeky are more nulls with the ever slightest lean scum; Ausuka is somewhere between nullscum and light scum; singleton and Baezu are both 'reasonable scum'; DJ is more 'strong scum'.

Which is a lot more stronger townreads than I began with.

And yes I know I still consider myself to have too many townreads but fuck it, too many townreads beats having too many scumreads so I'll happily accept it.

So you didn’t believe my claim?

[DJ]

i could also lynch Redflavor

Baezu
SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis
RedFlavor
pisskop
mastina
Something_Smart
DJ (hydra of ?? and ??)

I would like to lynch in this grouping today

Tell me about Redflavor

I should go take a look through their iso.

I got to that list by crossing off people I didn't want to lynch, and I couldn't tell ya a single thing redflavor has said/done this game. gimme a min

I am Town Backup Miller.

oh no, we shouldn't lynch this today

So when you wrote 188 you hadn't read 8? If you "couldn't tell ya a single thing redflavor has said/done this game" then what prompted you to write 188?

-djk

[mastina]

removing miller is actually removing protown equity by turning millers into vanillas and thus open to cross claims with goons

Actually per Normal guidelines when an Enabler for a role dies, the now-disabled roles won't magically flip/be rolecopped as vanilla; they will still be rolecopped/flipped as the role which was disabled.

That being said, there are far better reasons to not lynch LUV (namely, that he's probably town).

[Baezu]

Because you never addressed my claim mastina

[mastina]

Stopping on 44 for now. Mentally fatigued, can't really process stuff.
Readslist unchanged from last post of it.

[pisskop]

meh thats enough for me.

[DJ]

- Day-talk is enabled.

Herpderp.

i just mean that coming out and announcing the error with "herpaderp" doesn't feel to me like a sophisticated roll out of a dumb tell

so i think she's probably just town

For the record this is the first post from urap that presents plausible towniness but it doesn't change my read of him overall

-djk

[Vorkuta]

I am mason

[Baezu]

Vorky, is mastina town?

Is urap scum?

[Vorkuta]

Right- I approve of the mastina catchup
It seems genuine and in the absence of experience w/ that slot I buy it.

Tyvm for spoonfeeding us the "informed breakdown" as I swear the "Vanilla Roleblocker" or "Miller Backup/Enabler" really pinged me the wrong way.
For what it's worth, this is simply too much effort and genuine pro-town game-solveyness for scum to fake IMHO

[pisskop]

So when you wrote 188 you hadn't read 8? If you "couldn't tell ya a single thing redflavor has said/done this game" then what prompted you to write 188?