EVERYTHING IS COMPLETELY NORMAL (THE [GAME) OVER]

[Skygazer]

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pedit: aww

[Alchemist21]

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pedit: aww

[Nero Cain]

I still think that you are scum that's blatantly buddying the birthday girl. And she's not (and I thought you weren't either) scum reading Chara. So throwing down some pressure vote on a v/la slot seems kinda

[DJ]

In general, I can maybe see your point b/c scum sometimes do just fencesit and town are the ones that are moving their vote b/c reads ebb and flow

but then there are hardheaded town like me that stay on my scum reads b/c why move?

this was a bit of a clusterfuck but

viewtopic.php?f=56&t=77824

scum Cheeky did move her vote 8 times so...

Wasn't that game confirmed multiball tho? Do you have a singleball game that she is close to or are you imagining she is playing this like a multiball?

-djk

[Nero Cain]

i just looked for my last game with cheeky but I'll go look at the one b4 it.

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

I still think that you are scum that's blatantly buddying the birthday girl. And she's not (and I thought you weren't either) scum reading Chara. So throwing down some pressure vote on a v/la slot seems kinda

My initial impression was that Chara's posting was mostly townie but now there are more slots that I believe are town and I am at the point I could be conceivably be wrong about that initial read, I think DJ presented a good point that a lot of people seem to be presenting it with vacant townreads so if it is town then i'll simply see it starts posting again ┐( ˘_˘)┌

I will examine the game thou hath sent me when time permits.

[Nero Cain]

viewtopic.php?f=56&t=75915

she voted 9 times here including 3 votes on 2 different scumbuddies. So she voted town 6 times?

but why is the # of times she voted a good tell for her anyways?

[pisskop]

No, its to blatent imo. Or maybe just incompatible with my own hunting style . . .

[Nero Cain]

also

Subject: Gunner Mafia [Endgame]

Dead Players

Spoiler:

MariaR, wolf, died day 1
Srceenplay, wolf, lynched day 1.
Ausuka wolf died n1.
CheekyTeeky, wolf, lynched day 2.
Beeboy, wolf, died n2.

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gonna skim ausuka in that game for some scum meta on her

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

but why is the # of times she voted a good tell for her anyways?

I would never believe that to be a tell? That is something you came to the conclusion of, I simply believe that town!Cheeky is very likely to be playing in a loose and arbitrary way if she is town and don't think her voting tendencies would be the reason she's scum here.

[Nero Cain]

but she throws her vote around as scum too so...

[pisskop]

viewtopic.php?f=56&t=75915

she voted 9 times here including 3 votes on 2 different scumbuddies. So she voted town 6 times?

but why is the # of times she voted a good tell for her anyways?

She seems more aggressive in this link than here. She's calling herself town and others obvious scum. She uses a lot of AtE and feels a little like my towngame when I feel like Im in a game that Im too good for.

[pisskop]

The vote changes simulate hunting, and I would

not

be surprised to see some real good scum theatre and/or bussing worked in for good measure.

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

Yes, it would not be alignment indicative as an action, Nero. What I intend to see is how her thought process is shown between both games if I am going to make use of it~

[pisskop]

She is not like this here, but it could also be a case of circumstance. Remember when she picked up her posting here when we (nero/piss) started really pushing her wagon? Thatd be where Id compare her to her scumgame. The pressure should make she tell a little.

[Nero Cain]

Yes, it would not be alignment indicative as an action, Nero

If you possess more Cheeky experience than I do feel free to correct me but I would expect randomly changing reads to be more indicative of her being TOWN? (・_・ヾ

I mean maybe I'm just old and dumb but that looks like an argument for Cheeky being town based on throwing her vote around.

[singletonking]

No. The game(s) nowadays have greatly shifted from "scum hunting" to "meta hunting" (which is basically NOT how the game is intended to be, but I understand that when you play regularly with the same people you can't help it).

So, for me I see things that some players do/tend to do as one specific alignment and not the other and I meta read them based on those. If I out the reason why I TR Chara here I can no longer use that same metric in future games because I'd make them aware of what makes me TR them. Chara isn't an easy read by any means (ask anyone who played with both scum and town Chara), so I'm happy to have found a thing or two to tell the difference.

OK then

VOTE: Chara

That actually is kinda a town A50 response even if it still isn't firmly outside his scum range

His read on Chara is probably totally random though. If it's not a tell he can discuss in public, it's probably bullshit.

I think if one of the two is going for a pocket it's Chara though.

Anyway a lot of people have said they have reads on Chara with zero explanation so maybe we can actually learn some ways to read Chara with a wagon.

-DJK

what

[CheekyTeeky]

Oh god did you have to dig up that game Nero?

[CheekyTeeky]

I like bussed my whole team and threw the game

[Nero Cain]

Why would you game throw?

[CheekyTeeky]

I didn't on purpose I thought I was being smart but it was an effing town stomp anyway. So cringe.

[CheekyTeeky]

You didn't scumread me though which is interesting.

[Nero Cain]

i'm p sure I did b/c I voted you in my first post and tried to kill you (i was the town gunner) but my kill failed

[Chara]

hey guys, i'm back! and thanks for the concern, i'm doing fine.

going to try and catch up now. disappeared for longer than i meant.
so DJ, if i'm reading that post singleton quoted right, you want to wagon me because you think i'm garnering undeserved townreads? are you concerned about the players giving out those townreads at all?

[CheekyTeeky]

Uh? I thought you were tunnelling the wolf guy for 2 days.