Large Normal 221 - Endgame

[Nero Cain]

it's not like I've talked about these recently but you are ignoring this game so...

[pisskop]

Im in like 5 larges ohh plz forgive me for my inattentiveness to 1130 and old doggo.

[Vorkuta]

feel like this is a slightly above average level of nuance for scum

I feel honored

[Jesus Louisus]

Playing scum in this playerlist seems kind of easy to be honest...

Ok. Too easy.

VOTE: Niko

[Jesus Louisus]

Lol @ scum for trying to start a vork wagon.

[RedFlavor]

I don't like this

[Jesus Louisus]

I'm an Even Night Vigilante, not bulletproof.

All that lolz claiming and all was to claim bp later and make either scum think I'm bp and shot elsewhere or to make them waste their strongman on me (and it seems like it was working?). I didn't want to play my normal town meta because not only I'm tired of it, but I also I could be shot N1 since I'm always obvtown, and I wanted to stick around and play vigilante for once, it's my first time rolling it and there's the novelty and all. I also wanted to play a bit silly.

I'm not SK because I can only shoot in Even Nights, and my play here doesn't even make sense as a SK. a SK here would as a matter of fact be bulletproof, and therefore would do everything but claim bulletproof, because they don't want to risk mafia using a strongman on them (and if there's a SK, mafia probably needs a strongman, a no-bp SK is just bad design).

That's why I believe in a 3p scum team as well, I don't think that it's reasonable to have a babysitter together with a vigilante against a 4 man team, it can...end up wildly. I'm kind of expecting there to exist a Odd Night Vigilante as well by the way.

I also like thinking about a possible smaller team, since I use associatives, if I suppose it's 4 man when it's only 3 man, it's going to mess up my reads. There's no problem if I guess it's 3 man when it's 4 man, but there's problem to my reads if I suppose it's 4 man when it's 3 man.

Game meta nowadays is town sided so with everything considered I thought it was more likely a 3 man team. Oh, and I'm not horrible enough as scum to need some dumb "telling" of saying it's 3 man when it's 4 man, that's kind of really silly.

I'm still waiting for Kiri to confirm if she is or not a babysitter by the way.

With the deadline close and all, I'll compromise on Vorkuta but what I truly wanted is Eyes.

UNVOTE:

I don't think I did but,
If I hammered, oh well. It could be worse.

[Jesus Louisus]

So are we lynching Creature or peepeekop now?

[DeasVail]

I will be here for propers by this time tomorrow. i expect I will also have time for this tomorrow morning even

[Kirari Momobami]

If I hammered, oh well. It could be worse.

You l-3'd the fuck out of that wagon

[Niko]

I didn't plan to post, I would only log in to check if I already had been lynched to sign up for another game since I was considering this one as a lost cause but...I saw this:

@Niko: If I volunteer to be lynched today and I flip TOWN, would you be willing to volunteerily eat rope on D2? No ifs and buts. Consider it your vig shot on me and then die for your bad reads )if you're town to begin with). Please say yes.

Like, nobody wants a shitty vig around anyway, so let's test your "most confident read". I would offer you the same bargain on Vork, except I dunno id he is willing to volunteer to be today's lynch.

This is

literally

a

scum claim

.

He is voting me and calling me scum, but here he is treating me as town, and is willing to waste one lynch on himself to actually make me

ACCEPT

my own lynch.

Do you really think that Eyes is dumb enough to say to someone he think it's scum "lynch me first and afterwards accept your lynch" when I was already looking like the lynch today anyway?

It makes 0 SENSE from a town pov.

However, scum!Eyes loves to be LAMIST, in one of his scum games, he said "I'm fine with you guys lynching me in day 1 because that's how I won my a town game for the first time".

He also thinks that even if I was to say "fine, I will trade my flip for yours, deal accepted", no one else would come along with us (or so he imagines, I've hope that people notice how bad this post is).

Then yeah Eyes, I accept that if you want. If you flip town, I'm fine with self-voting tomorrow.

However, you're not going to flip town at all because no town needs to make their scum reads accept their own lynches this hard.

VOTE: eyes

[rosterfoster]

VOTE: Eyes

[Niko]

@Niko

I feel like you’ve changed the narrative wrt why you’re playing not only differently but scummily:
- you get talked out of your correct early gut reads
- you want to stay alive because you’re a claimed pr
- playing your usual towngame is stressful and doing confusing gambits is more fun

The first two doesn’t explain why you’re playing scummy. The last one is more plausible but also doesn’t jive with what you claimed (you said you want to stay alive to use your vig shot and you decide to do that by doing weird gambits?)

I still don’t understand your eyes scumread

Do you still scumred kublai? Why is he townier than eyes vork and otter?

If I had played normally, I would get too much town read and would also eventually get shot. I also would need to actually put a lot of effort in this when I don't feel like that at all.

I want to stay alive but not by playing obvtown (what wouldn't even work anyway, since I was probably gonna get shot and the bulletproof deal was a lie to survive more).

About my eyes scumread...look into my last post about him. If you don't see where I'm coming from, I need to say that it makes you scummier.

[Jesus Louisus]

VOTE: eyes

[Vorkuta]

We're just going to buy niko's redirect?

[rosterfoster]

Yes

[ofrhz]

But I think eyes is town

[RedFlavor]

VOTE: Jesus Louisus
Lynch the scum

[Eyes without a face]

This is literally a scum claim.

He is voting me and calling me scum, but here he is treating me as town, and is willing to waste one lynch on himself to actually make me ACCEPT my own lynch.

This is

literally

stupid.

If I was scum then how the hell so I invite you to lynch me first and make the condition to your lynch next for me to flip TOWN? It goes without saying that if I flip scum you're totally off the hook.

[Eyes without a face]

Also you'v just ACCEPTED the offer by voting me. That's doubly stupid.

[Eyes without a face]

If there's an Odd-Night-Vig, please shoot Niko. I mow suspect the claim was intended to out you specifically. Scum may have been informed of your existence (and this IS something Unknown 15 would include in his game).

[Kublai Khan]

rosterfoster scumminess reading has been rising again.

[pisskop]

yes

kk is my spirit animal

[pisskop]

d3 is ofrz

Y?

like d1we lyncj niko

Y?

at least I'm classy enough to not quote myself or question nero putting me in his mislynch rotation

but why orfz?

[Alchemist21]

rosterfoster scumminess reading has been rising again.

I’m always down for switching back to Roster.