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Post Post #650 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:18 pm

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In post 648, implosion wrote:Busy days, this game fell off my radar pretty hard. Not that it looks like much has occurred.

Not interested in pivoting onto S_S right now and doubt I will be willing to over pine but I'm happy to hear arguments about him. I could theoretically pivot onto Kagami but honestly not lynching Pine today at this point probably just leads to this game getting even more bogged down tomorrow. And the most likely way we lose this game is it dying to apathy.
Actually, day start should make things a lot simpler.
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Post Post #651 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:19 pm

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Hmmm, you know what.

I'm going to claim.

I'm a N3 gun.

Now scum need to either commit to lynching me today, kill me tonight, or let me have a free hand.
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Post Post #652 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:26 pm

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I think you should extract a N3 / non-N3 claim from someone you don't like.
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Post Post #653 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:31 pm

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grats haschel, hi kagami I am glad we're getting more of the 13 kilos crew in here

does anyone actually believe Pine could be a N3 gun given:
In post 555, Pine wrote:I feel like I've lost this round. I don't really see any path to getting my scumreads (Pops + LLD) lynched without first proving my intentions by flipping green. I'm not interested in pushing a save-myself-compromise because I have TRs on everyone else. I'll go back through some ISOs to see if I missed anything (having last minute doubts about Pops) and then take my ML like a man. It's likely necessary, though ofc not ideal.
In post 559, Pine wrote:Also, I'm specifically not asking to be saved. I am comfortable with dying here, but I do require that my views be taken seriously. LLD in particular is classically scum here.
In post 588, Pine wrote:Fine, what do you want me to say? I’ve made my cases, they were ignored. I PoE’d my Towncases, they were also ignored. What, do you want me to beg? Roll over and compromise-vote for someone I think is Town?

I’ll try to be less bitchy after I eat some dinner, but I feel this match is mostly being played with emotion instead of reason, and that’s not productive in a Mafia game.
In post 622, Pine wrote:Stalled game has stalled.
I think I might be the point where I wanna just muscle through it without even asking for a cc, it just seems so ridiculous that he'd post any of these posts with that kind of pocket ace and it seems a million times more likely he's just dropping a fakeclaim one day to deadline to get the cc out and maybe not die in the confusion
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Post Post #654 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:36 pm

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Ok, I agree with hito's point.
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Post Post #655 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:37 pm

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re 555 and 559 specifically
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Post Post #656 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:39 pm

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but it just seems so stupid -_-
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Post Post #657 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:41 pm

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I'm telling the truth. Around the 550s I was just resigned to being the lynch.

I don't do the despair thing as scum. Ever.
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Post Post #658 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:44 pm

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We can lynch your scumbuddy Kagami next. :)
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Post Post #659 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:45 pm

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tsk tsk.
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Post Post #660 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:52 pm

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So since you're here and still voting Pine, ceph, what are the circumstances under which scum-Pine derives any benefit from this?

Hito is wrong that there's some world in which scum-pine lives, he obviously gets deadline lynched in the abscence of a CC.

What are the odds that the town gun is N3+ (which is a very foolish choice)?
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Post Post #661 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:55 pm

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So no, hito, I'm against powering through a lynch, though I recognize that 555 and 559 do not agree with the claim in any rational sense.
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Post Post #662 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:59 pm

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he knows he's dying and is hoping to draw the counter claim, or live in a world where he appeals to absurdity.

That's all this is, it's not town. It's scum motivated. Pls lynch.

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Post Post #663 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:59 pm

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In post 660, Kagami wrote:So since you're here and still voting Pine, ceph, what are the circumstances under which scum-Pine derives any benefit from this?

Hito is wrong that there's some world in which scum-pine lives, he obviously gets deadline lynched in the abscence of a CC.

What are the odds that the town gun is N3+ (which is a very foolish choice)?
None, it appears that he messed up? Alternatively, his lynch is very inevitable at this point so he might as well throw something at the wall and see if anything sticks. In particular, if the gun makes a bad cc (for example, if the gun is cyanjet and doesn't realize he shouldn't do so), that's just free for him.

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Post Post #664 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:03 pm

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In post 660, Kagami wrote: Hito is wrong that there's some world in which scum-pine lives, he obviously gets deadline lynched in the abscence of a CC.
I mean the only CC that can come is confirmation that he's scum, with no possibility of a definitive green, so what does this even mean. are you saying that there's no world where scum pine lives, which is why you want to defer his lynch today and create a world where scum pine would live?
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Post Post #665 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:03 pm

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I just want to wait for a CC.
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Post Post #666 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:04 pm

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No CC is definitive green....
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Post Post #667 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:08 pm

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VOTE: Pine
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #668 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:09 pm

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In post 660, Kagami wrote:So since you're here and still voting Pine, ceph, what are the circumstances under which scum-Pine derives any benefit from this?

Hito is wrong that there's some world in which scum-pine lives, he obviously gets deadline lynched in the abscence of a CC.

What are the odds that the town gun is N3+ (which is a very foolish choice)?
It wasn't my choice, fwiw. I replaced one of FakeGod's irl friends.

Shouldn't there be two Town guns? 8 Town roses announced at game start, standard 10:3 distribution, 13 - 3 - 8 = 2.
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Post Post #669 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:10 pm

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I don't think the other gun should claim right now, for the record.

And what the hell do I stand to gain by claiming unprompted as scum?
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Post Post #670 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:10 pm

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In post 668, Pine wrote:
In post 660, Kagami wrote:So since you're here and still voting Pine, ceph, what are the circumstances under which scum-Pine derives any benefit from this?

Hito is wrong that there's some world in which scum-pine lives, he obviously gets deadline lynched in the abscence of a CC.

What are the odds that the town gun is N3+ (which is a very foolish choice)?
It wasn't my choice, fwiw. I replaced one of FakeGod's irl friends.

Shouldn't there be two Town guns? 8 Town roses announced at game start, standard 10:3 distribution, 13 - 3 - 8 = 2.
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Post Post #671 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:11 pm

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-_-

oops

I thought we had 1 gun.
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Post Post #672 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:11 pm

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Dude. LLD. Your desperation to get me lynched won't make up for the fact that you've done fucking nothing else all game.
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Post Post #673 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:11 pm

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There's only 11 players people.

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Post Post #674 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:12 pm

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Oh snap, you're right.

Sure, go ahead and CC me, then.
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