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Post Post #3125 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:22 pm

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You look bad because I can back up my point of view but for you it's that you "have your own opinions" - like, that doesn't mean anything, acting like people are just sitting here and letting urap wagon build up is actually a misrepresentation of the game state
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Post Post #3126 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:23 pm

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an icky defense of urap
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Post Post #3127 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:25 pm

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In post 3124, Nero Cain wrote:What am I pushing?
The angle that U r a person 2 is an unopposed wagon with no counters that built up quickly.

It has counters - keep in mind that U r a person 2 himself hasn't voted, so any potential counter wagon could be bigger when push comes to shove.
It is opposed - read my iso if you won't read the rest of the thread, look how many times I bring him up and how other people are defending him
Whether it built up quickly is subjective, but it currently resides at 3-4 votes after 2 days, and everyone seems to find a reason to avoid the wagon
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Post Post #3128 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:31 pm

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In post 2800, ofrhz wrote:
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Post Post #3129 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:41 pm

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How many people out of that group have since retracted their vote from him? (2)
How many from that group is now actively defending him? (1)

You're also ignoring evidence to push your own agenda here
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Post Post #3130 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:43 pm

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And just pointing to numbers doesn't really mean anything, do you think anyone that is pushing that is scum? Note that teacher is now against the wagon, he quickly unvoted. Why does it matter if a bunch of town vote for him?
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Post Post #3131 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:45 pm

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Whats my agenda here? like im not calling him town it just makes me wary and I think most if not all said they'd still vote urap. Yea I think Teacher is scum.
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Post Post #3132 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:48 pm

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skitter too. like if she thinks urap is scum then shouldn't she be voting urap first?
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Post Post #3133 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:49 pm

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i was, but your defense of him and his wagon is p gross too
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Post Post #3134 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:51 pm

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Why is his wagon gross?
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Post Post #3135 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:53 pm

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no, your defense is

the wagon is fine
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Post Post #3136 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:55 pm

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In post 3113, Detective Pikachu wrote:
In post 3111, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3106, Detective Pikachu wrote:Pretty sure his thought process within the first 60 posts of his iso was strongly town indicative.
How so?
I explained in and -- I'm fairly confident that urap making a conscious effort to townblock and find specific townie posts from players is town indicative because this is something he struggles to do as scum, instead he only pretends to scumhunt and then at some point throws out a list when he feels he needs some townreads but doesn't explain them that well. Teacher is right that it's not impossible he has gotten better at this particular thing but I feel like it's a pretty sharp and dramatic improvement in his scum play if so, which usually just makes the person town in my mind.
Again that’s my issue. I think you should look at this w very fresh eyes.
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Post Post #3137 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:06 pm

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In post 2876, u r a person 2 wrote:Teacher is very likely town for reasons~
:igmeou:

although I think uraps reads ^ are p horrible.
In post 2904, teacher wrote:Like I liked their early game, but they got "lazy" and demotivated over the course of the game
this reason is almost as junk as Skitters "you wanted to lynch town u r scum!" but I agree with you that she's scum.
In post 2926, skitter30 wrote:I tend to get antsy when i feel like wagons are building fast
but it's scummy when I do. More hypocrisy from that slot.
In post 2939, teacher wrote:Could someone for the love kindly interact with me on Nero?
If your sole reason for scumreading me is "didn't post alot during one part of the game" then your case is pretty weak and why does that over ride you liking my early content?
In post 2946, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 2945, skitter30 wrote:Nom, how are you reading cinn and dunn?
I see no reason to scumread them.
I have *some* fears about Cinnamon though.
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Looking for replacement for Cinnamon.
the timing of this is really funny
In post 2997, skitter30 wrote:Because town!urap doesnt consistently have awful reads and has more wim to gamesolve
Ummm, didn't you say that you thought he always had bad reads?
In post 3033, pisskop wrote:
In post 74, Nero Cain wrote:b/c Nom didn't understand why ppl were saying the miller was a modifier. Why should I not have clarified that for him? I am not sure why it shows you as quoting Cinns words. I prob quoted something wrong but is that even important?
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this is lazy. Everyone knew that Cinn was the claimed (now fakeclaimed miller). It was a silly question and I don't understand why Teacher asked me about it. It obviously wasn't that important b/c he didn't even bother telling me why it was important to ask. What do you think my scum motivation would be to misquote an obvious Cinn post and attribute it to teacher?
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Post Post #3138 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:35 pm

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"What's the scum motivation" isn't a magic bullet either
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Post Post #3139 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:37 pm

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In post 3137, Nero Cain wrote:but it's scummy when I do. More hypocrisy from that slot.
it feels like you're trying to find reasons to the urap wagon

also are you saying u think i'm scum?
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Post Post #3140 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:37 pm

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*reasons to defend the urap wagon, sorry
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Post Post #3141 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:38 pm

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In post 3137, Nero Cain wrote:Ummm, didn't you say that you thought he always had bad reads?
no, i didn't
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Post Post #3142 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:42 pm

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ok, your right. I misread 2997
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Post Post #3143 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:44 pm

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In post 3138, Dunnstral wrote:"What's the scum motivation" isn't a magic bullet either
I'm not saying that it is but if Piss wants to push me as scum he should go more in-depth on why its scummy, no?
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Post Post #3144 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:48 pm

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In post 3140, skitter30 wrote:*reasons to defend the urap wagon, sorry
*shrugz*

FMPOV urap wagon seemed p EZ and it makes me worry. If you and Dunn get mad b/c I'm not going along with the hive mind then so be it.

It's also weird that you had expressed this same thing.
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Post Post #3145 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:49 pm

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how r u reading me rn?
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Post Post #3146 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:50 pm

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i think you are scum.
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Post Post #3147 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:52 pm

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In post 3137, Nero Cain wrote:this reason is almost as junk as Skitters "you wanted to lynch town u r scum!" but I agree with you that she's scum.
so what does this mean ...?
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Post Post #3148 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:56 pm

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its sayng that I think teacher scumreading me for being slightly inactive @ one point is dumb reasoning

I think that your reasoning that I'm scum b/c I "wanted to lynch town" is surface level

It's that I agree with him that you are scum.
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Post Post #3149 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:56 pm

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how do you read teacher?
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