You shouldn't have noted that until Kop actually made a post. People simply being offline is fairly common, even in time-critical situations (and someone saying they'll be around at deadline doesn't mean they'll be around continuously until then; I'm likely to leave for half an hour or so at one point).
In post 1098, callforjudgement wrote:People in general seem much more passionate about lynching Lich than Skitter, so I guess if I had to pick I'd pick Lich, not so much because I think there's much chance of a scumflip, but because it's likely to lead to the players being less distracted/split on future days.
This is kind of my thinking in that a lynch on Lich ending on a town flip isn't the worst since I don't think town!lich is a target for night kills and I find it hard for me to ever strongly townread him where my concerns aren't brought up in future days.
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
You shouldn't have noted that until Kop actually made a post. People simply being offline is fairly common, even in time-critical situations (and someone saying they'll be around at deadline doesn't mean they'll be around continuously until then; I'm likely to leave for half an hour or so at one point).
Yes I could be nice about it but what's the fun in that?
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
In post 1080, callforjudgement wrote:I'm also bewildered as to what Kop's planning to claim. He's softclaimed "confirmable role, not forced to a specific alignment, not Fruit Vendor or Neighbourizer". The only possibilities seem to be Mailman, Neighbour (in which case someone else can claim it), or something with the Loud or Announcing modifier.
PEDIT: OK, it's Mailman. That isn't a role strong enough to be worth saving, and is probably more useful in scum hands than town hands.
If it is in town hands, it gives us a lot of information about the setup: specifically, with most moderators, it'd be highly likely that town has (other than the Mailman) one strong or two weak power roles, probably without much to counter them on the scum side. I'd be imagining the setup to be something like a newbie setup with the Mailman role added to make the setup a bit less vanilla, and as an attempt at a balance tweak.
The claim is unlikely to be false, but may be scum claiming an alignment-flipped version of their role.
There isn't a scum aligned mailman. If there is, it's not on the mafia wiki site, or this setup is slightly bastard surely?
In post 1113, callforjudgement wrote:Mailman isn't an alignment-linked role. The wiki page even lists Town, Mafia, and Serial Killer as possible alignments.
I never looked over on the right hand side of the page, apologies on misreading that part.
But that information is more useful for scum than town. It's normally better to leave scum in the dark about whether they should kill the slot to avoid a strong power role or not.
Forcing claims from people who you aren't planning to hammer is about as strong a scumtell as primarily hunting for Serial Killers; it's being curious about information that scum are missing, which is a kind of curiosity that scum can have, rather than being curious about information that scum already have (which tends to imply not being scum). Worse, it
But that information is more useful for scum than town. It's normally better to leave scum in the dark about whether they should kill the slot to avoid a strong power role or not.
Forcing claims from people who you aren't planning to hammer is about as strong a scumtell as primarily hunting for Serial Killers; it's being curious about information that scum are missing, which is a kind of curiosity that scum can have, rather than being curious about information that scum already have (which tends to imply not being scum). Worse, it
also
helps scum aim their kills correctly.
Maybe it helps scum aim their shot.
But it also helps town because Kop was being dodgy with the claim and he already explicitly confirmed that he's a pretty weak PR so having it out there is nice for future reference.
