The Mystery Box Of Silver 5: Clash of Cash death grips

[pisskop]

I already did

[ElevenThirty]

man if pisskop is town this is the most annoying town I've ever played with
Like yeah schadd's setups are weird and unexpected and fun but I *didn't* sign up for a meme game, I thought I'd at least get to, I dunno, play mafia?

-Irrel

pedit: no you didn't?

[pisskop]

My very first post

[ElevenThirty]

I was about to argue with you and say that wasn't true
then I remembered you were once fuscosco
vt it is then

-Irrel

[ElevenThirty]

Actual claims:

Us - conditional bulletproof
Mastina - announcing fruit vendor, visitor, x-shot vig
rhinox - ascetic x-shot vig
auro - vt
pisskop - vt
ank - vt
toog - survivor

-Irrel

[ElevenThirty]

mastina how were your new roles described. Like "here's an outgrowth/evolution/addition of your previous role" or "now you are also this, no further comment"
I wonder if Katy crumbed her roleblock target(s?)?

-Irrel

[ElevenThirty]

Spoiler: some of old dogs last posts

after careful consideration and blitzing the powers within my third eye,

i have decided that yay and 1130 are both locktown




thank you for your consideration

Im going to make a secret hydra.

pisskop and fuscosco.

copier

I havent read since I last posted my apology. Wh4t is town?

wh4t is probably not town but creature is definitely scum

it's like taking a 90% chance over a 70% chance

i think ank's interactions with me yesterday comes from a town mindset even if misguided

i think everything pikachu said this entire game is townie

i considered my own past games and have decided that ive only ever really felt the way your slot does as town. even when im pissed scum it's different. my soul has been searched

pedit: 1130 under normal circumstances would probably not be endgaming scum until i declared them town so uh

i considered my own past games and have decided that ive only ever really felt the way your slot does as town. even when im pissed scum it's different. my soul has been searched

this is @ and about 1130

I too feel that I am also town.

that causes like, a lot of problems. but im hoping town power resolves that at this point, like it's going to be 3 nights after creature lynch so

I think pisskop is just trying to string together narratives.

last thoughts

rhinox and mastina are town regardless of this flip
I think 1130 probably is as well

I think wh4t or pisskop was katy's target probably? If she actually crumbed before night, it's pisskop, but I'm not sure 2406 came before or after she got a role, if I'm right that she got the role just yesterday (which maybe I'm not?)
She definitely didn't target mastina or rhinox which furthers the likelihood they're true claiming about vigging

-Irrel

[pisskop]

she died?

[pisskop]

zeebu has died in the night! he was a

vanilla townie

!

wh4t has died in the night! they were a

vanilla townie

!

Old Dogs has died in the night! they were a

town 2-shot roleblocker

!

Chemist1422, Vengaboys and Errantparabola exit the game in a loss.

oh shyte

[pisskop]

what did chemist or EP do? Or was it just Vengaboys

[ElevenThirty]

what did chemist or EP do? Or was it just Vengaboys

those were the three slots not playing, apparently they lose

-Irrel

[ElevenThirty]

wait so who governed toog way back when

-Irrel

[pisskop]

scum toog did?

[ElevenThirty]

yeah that's kinda the only answer I have left too

-Irrel

[ElevenThirty]

rhinox do you know if your slot started the game ascetic?

-irrel

[pisskop]

i have to read this today

[YAYVIDEOGAMES]

This is a hell of a long buildup for the obvious answer that is still not useful to the game because toog is not the correct lynch today

~ Pichu

[ElevenThirty]

toog is not the correct lynch today

Yes he is.
Without shifting attention onto a different player you would like to present as scummy, please explain logically what makes my logic re:[toog is optimal lynch] untrue.

We've all been saying it all game: 3Ps can't come to lylo.
If tomorrow's lylo, toog can't come.
If today's lylo, it's because toog is scum.

What makes toog the incorrect lynch today?

-Irrel

[YAYVIDEOGAMES]

50th reminder that we have no way of knowing what was up with the role additions or the 3 players that just left

This game literally cannot be solved mechanicall

Mechanics talk is literally a waste of time

HUNT

~ Pichu

[YAYVIDEOGAMES]

toog is not the correct lynch today

Yes he is.
Without shifting attention onto a different player you would like to present as scummy, please explain logically what makes my logic re:[toog is optimal lynch] untrue.

We've all been saying it all game: 3Ps can't come to lylo.
If tomorrow's lylo, toog can't come.
If today's lylo, it's because toog is scum.

What makes toog the incorrect lynch today?

-Irrel

1. If he is 3p, getting rid of him gets rid of a town via NK. No gain. Scum potentially might have a kill. Instant loss.
2. If he is scum, he's very likely the traitor. He is unrecruited and there is no reason to recruit him. No gain.
3. If he is group scum, he just dies last. No loss.

What do we gain by killing him again?

~ Pichu

[YAYVIDEOGAMES]

Note that if you believe Toog is a survivor, you are literally likely taking a situation where it's lylo with a survivor and replacing it with a situation where it's lylo without a survivor, except scum get an extra NK.

THAT IS A LOSS FOR TOWN

~ Pichu

[ElevenThirty]

Unless your answer is "this is a 3v2v1+1 gamestate" in which case you should have claimed why you have that info by now.
Unless you believe the above AND you're the "last man standing" 3P in the game, trying to townside, in which case idk why you haven't made any kills? and I don't think I'll ever come to this conclusion given the rest of the information I currently have.

-Irrel

pedit:
1. If he is 3p, this is functionally 4v2, which is usually followed by a no lynch in most games anyway, to see who scum kills. I'm not assuming scum have two kills here, like what?
2. If he is scum, I see no reason to assume he's the traitor, but even if he is, we're still functionally in 4v2, which is usually a no lynch.
3. If he is groupscum, leaving him alive while hunting for his partner intentionally raises our chance at a mislynch.

What do we gain by keeping him alive again?

pedit2: If he is 3P we're in MYLO, not LYLO. Giving scum a nightkill is NOT A LOSS FOR TOWN

[ElevenThirty]

I CAN SHOUT TOO

-Irrel

[YAYVIDEOGAMES]

Rhinox why didn't you claim ascetic as soon as you knew you had it?
-pikachu

[YAYVIDEOGAMES]

Aww you two are so cute

Promise me you'll hug when this game is over ok?

-pikachu