Open 762: CK9++ [Over!]

[Skygazer]

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[Spangled]

Why isnt chem in the bloc as a claimed tracker?

Because a claim ≠ town. The real 1-shot tracker or 1-shot cop could be biding their time.
This

is

a game where lying is one of the main points

[Formerfish]

1222 also defends Drew a bit with the whole post timestamp business. If he wanted him dead why give him reasonable outs to issues?

He wants him dead, but he is working to clear him, those actions dont make sense coming from the same person.

[Formerfish]

Why isnt chem in the bloc as a claimed tracker?

Because a claim ≠ town. The real 1-shot tracker or 1-shot cop could be biding their time.
This

is

a game where lying is one of the main points

Right, so it makes more sense that the town bloc should be 3 people who havent explicitly claimed anything, just that we have good feels about each other?

[Skygazer]

I forgot chem claimed tracker; I'll sort that as town for now? I'm not familiar with the setup yet but it doesn't feel optimal to box yourself in with a claim that early as scum. Who did he track?

I like Rick's entrance. I like how he's not afraid to call a large amount of attention to himself. I like how he's not afraid to shift his reads around suddenly yet naturally. I like how if he were scum he'd be boxing himself in with the amount of town sorting he's doing. I'll say that's town.

[Spangled]

1222 doesn't sound like 'not interested' to me.
Sure, there was more focus on you, but he certainly talked about and to Drew.

So how does it make sense for him to vote Pers over Drew or myself?

He did?
I'll have to go back and reread that whole area.

Pedit:
He doesn't always have to want him dead; if you SR someone when they change their reads, even without much explanation, then you will end up with a lot of people who you think are scum.
To be fair though, that doesn't fully address that whole issue; I see your point, just not all of it.

[Formerfish]

Who did he track?

Hana, claimed she went nowhere.

[Skygazer]

hi I'm the 1-shot tracker, got a no visits result last night on Sakura

k bye

found it, ty ctrl+f

pedit: ty fish

[Rick Dalton]

I haven’t talked with Chemist really head on. I’d be taking it at face value in that case.

[Spangled]

Why isnt chem in the bloc as a claimed tracker?

Because a claim ≠ town. The real 1-shot tracker or 1-shot cop could be biding their time.
This

is

a game where lying is one of the main points

Right, so it makes more sense that the town bloc should be 3 people who havent explicitly claimed anything, just that we have good feels about each other?

That is true, but he could easily have forgotten - I know I did, briefly.

[Skygazer]

Glancing at the setup's wiki page, 1-shot tracker is also a pretty hard claim for scum to make given that you would need the setup to be have only one I to not be in a counterclaim situation down the road.

Chem is probably town.

[Skygazer]

Skygazer (unless i misread my role pm)
Spangled
Chem
Rick

four townies found so far !

[Rick Dalton]

Add Sakura into there for being the one who went nowhere. Doesn’t confirm, but I like to think it’s pretty townie.

Skygazer has gained a little scum equity, tbh, but I generally want to town read her. This line right here’s enough to pressure.

FF essentially is the person who gave me momentum, so if he’s scum, lol.

[Skygazer]

I remember liking Sakura

I interpreted her

notes

thing as pretty townie; possibly forcing reactions from people? putting her thoughts out there immediately, too. i think she's playing in a way where she's unafraid to push people and put her thoughts out there whereas scum is generally more withholding wrt their immediate thoughts. She's asking questions in ways that seem to suggest a solving mindset. add her to my town pool.

pedit: okay i added sakura for dif reasons

[Skygazer]

Spoiler: do these votes make sense w my current town pool (sanity checking)

7

Persivul (2):

implosion

,

Skygazer

Not Voting (11): Doctor Drew,

Spangled

,

Thespio

, Gamma Emerald, James Brafin,

Sakura Hana

, Persivul,

Chemist1422

,

Rick Dalton

, gobbledygook, Formerfish

25

Rick Dalton

(2):

implosion

,

Sakura Hana

Gamma Emerald (1): Formerfish
Persivul (1):

Skygazer

Chemist1422

(1): gobbledygook
Formerfish (1): Doctor Drew
Not Voting (7):

Spangled

,

Thespio

, Gamma Emerald, James Brafin, Persivul,

Chemist1422

,

Rick Dalton

77

James Brafin (3): Doctor Drew,

Rick Dalton

, Persivul

Rick Dalton

(2):

Sakura Hana

, James Brafin
Gamma Emerald (1): Formerfish
Persivul (1):

Skygazer

Chemist1422

(1): gobbledygook

Sakura Hana

(1):

implosion

Not Voting (4):

Spangled

,

Thespio

, Gamma Emerald,

Chemist1422

109

James Brafin (2): Doctor Drew, Persivul

Rick Dalton

(2):

Sakura Hana

, James Brafin
Gamma Emerald (1): Formerfish
Persivul (1):

Skygazer

Chemist1422

(1): gobbledygook

Sakura Hana

(1):

implosion

Not Voting (5):

Spangled

,

Thespio

, Gamma Emerald,

Chemist1422

,

Rick Dalton

125

Rick Dalton

(3):

Sakura Hana

, James Brafin,

Chemist1422

James Brafin (2): Doctor Drew, Persivul
Gamma Emerald (1): Formerfish
Persivul (1):

Skygazer

Chemist1422

(1):

implosion

implosion

(1): gobbledygook
Not Voting (4):

Spangled

,

Thespio

, Gamma Emerald,

Rick Dalton

150

Rick Dalton

(3):

Sakura Hana

, James Brafin,

Chemist1422

James Brafin (1): Persivul
Gamma Emerald (1): Formerfish

Chemist1422

(1):

implosion

implosion

(1): gobbledygook

Sakura Hana

(1):

Rick Dalton

Not Voting (5):

Spangled

,

Thespio

, Gamma Emerald, Doctor Drew,

Skygazer

175

Rick Dalton

(3):

Sakura Hana

, James Brafin,

Chemist1422

James Brafin (1): Persivul
Gamma Emerald (1): Formerfish

Chemist1422

(1):

implosion

implosion

(1): gobbledygook

Sakura Hana

(1):

Rick Dalton

Persivul (1): Doctor Drew
Not Voting (4):

Spangled

,

Thespio

, Gamma Emerald,

Skygazer

225

Rick Dalton

(3):

Sakura Hana

,

Chemist1422

, Gamma Emerald
James Brafin (1): Persivul
Gamma Emerald (1): Formerfish

Chemist1422

(1):

implosion

implosion

(1): gobbledygook

Sakura Hana

(1):

Rick Dalton

Persivul (1): Doctor Drew
gobbledygook (1): James Brafin
Not Voting (3):

Spangled

,

Thespio

,

Skygazer

264

Thespio

(4, L-3!):

Sakura Hana

,

implosion

, Formerfish, Persivul

Rick Dalton

(2):

Chemist1422

, Gamma Emerald

implosion

(1): gobbledygook

Sakura Hana

(1):

Rick Dalton

Persivul (1): Doctor Drew
gobbledygook (1): James Brafin
Not Voting (3):

Spangled

,

Thespio

,

Skygazer

310

Thespio

(5, L-2!):

Sakura Hana

,

implosion

, Formerfish, Persivul, gobbledygook

Rick Dalton

(2):

Chemist1422

, Gamma Emerald

Sakura Hana

(1):

Rick Dalton

Persivul (1): Doctor Drew
gobbledygook (1): James Brafin
Not Voting (3):

Spangled

,

Thespio

,

Skygazer

326

gobbledygook (4, L-3!): James Brafin,

Skygazer

,

implosion

,

Sakura Hana

Thespio

(3): Formerfish, Persivul, gobbledygook

Rick Dalton

(1): Gamma Emerald

Sakura Hana

(1):

Rick Dalton

Persivul (1): Doctor Drew
Not Voting (3):

Spangled

,

Thespio

,

Chemist1422

350

Thespio

(5, L-2!): Formerfish, Persivul, gobbledygook, James Brafin,

Rick Dalton

gobbledygook (3):

Skygazer

,

implosion

,

Sakura Hana

Rick Dalton

(1): Gamma Emerald
Persivul (1): Doctor Drew
Not Voting (3):

Spangled

,

Thespio

,

Chemist1422

400

Thespio

(4, L-3!): Formerfish, Persivul, gobbledygook, James Brafin
gobbledygook (3):

Skygazer

,

implosion

,

Sakura Hana

Rick Dalton

(1): Gamma Emerald
Persivul (1): Doctor Drew

Chemist1422

(1):

Rick Dalton

Not Voting (3):

Spangled

,

Thespio

,

Chemist1422

502

Thespio

(3): Persivul, gobbledygook, James Brafin
gobbledygook (3):

Skygazer

,

implosion

,

Sakura Hana

Rick Dalton

(2): Gamma Emerald, Formerfish
Persivul (1): Doctor Drew

Chemist1422

(1):

Rick Dalton

Not Voting (3):

Spangled

,

Thespio

,

Chemist1422

675

Thespio

(4, L-3!): Persivul, gobbledygook, James Brafin, Gamma Emerald
gobbledygook (2):

Skygazer

,

implosion

Rick Dalton

(1): Formerfish
Persivul (1): Doctor Drew

Chemist1422

(1):

Rick Dalton

implosion

(1):

Sakura Hana

Not Voting (3):

Spangled

,

Thespio

,

Chemist1422

700

Thespio

(4, L-3!): Persivul, gobbledygook, James Brafin, Gamma Emerald
gobbledygook (3):

Skygazer

,

implosion

,

Chemist1422

Rick Dalton

(1): Formerfish
Persivul (1): Doctor Drew

Chemist1422

(1):

Rick Dalton

implosion

(1):

Sakura Hana

Not Voting (2):

Spangled

,

Thespio

775

Thespio

(3): Persivul, James Brafin, Gamma Emerald
gobbledygook (3):

Skygazer

,

implosion

,

Chemist1422

Chemist1422

(2):

Rick Dalton

,

Sakura Hana

Rick Dalton

(1): Formerfish
Persivul (1): Doctor Drew
Doctor Drew (1): gobbledygook
Not Voting (2):

Spangled

,

Thespio

826

Thespio

(4, L-3!): Persivul, James Brafin, Gamma Emerald,

Sakura Hana

gobbledygook (3):

Skygazer

,

implosion

, Doctor Drew
Doctor Drew (3): gobbledygook, Formerfish,

Chemist1422

Chemist1422

(1):

Rick Dalton

Not Voting (2):

Spangled

,

Thespio

900

Thespio

(5, L-2!): Persivul, James Brafin, Gamma Emerald,

Sakura Hana

,

Skygazer

Doctor Drew (3): gobbledygook, Formerfish,

Chemist1422

gobbledygook (2):

implosion

, Doctor Drew

Chemist1422

(1):

Rick Dalton

Not Voting (2):

Spangled

,

Thespio

941

Thespio

(6, L-1!): Persivul, James Brafin, Gamma Emerald,

Sakura Hana

, Formerfish,

Skygazer

Doctor Drew (2): gobbledygook,

Chemist1422

gobbledygook (2):

implosion

, Doctor Drew

Chemist1422

(1):

Rick Dalton

Not Voting (2):

Spangled

,

Thespio

966

Thespio

(7, Hammer!): Persivul, James Brafin, Gamma Emerald,

Sakura Hana

, Formerfish,

Skygazer

, gobbledygook
gobbledygook (2):

implosion

, Doctor Drew
Doctor Drew (1):

Chemist1422

Chemist1422

(1):

Rick Dalton

Not Voting (2):

Spangled

,

Thespio

[Skygazer]

Skygazer has gained a little scum equity, tbh, but I generally want to town read her. This line right here’s enough to pressure.

I'll bite. Why?

[Skygazer]

What do you make of gobbledygook lol-hammering after implosion had already declared intent to drunkenly lol-hammer?

[Rick Dalton]

It’s gobble, James, and Persivul

[Skygazer]

i could sheep that. i remember TRing James's entrance so i'm a little less sold there? persi i remember absolutely nothing about rn

[Skygazer]

his (james's) recent quote walls come across as super awkward tho rereading

[Rick Dalton]

I got there based off VCA, and Persivul voting James is probably a lightweight bus vote.

[Rick Dalton]

Thespio wagon trajectory is pretty telling

[Spangled]

I got there based off VCA, and Persivul voting James is probably a lightweight bus vote.

Oh, yeah, speaking of which,

why

do you think James is scum?

[gobbledygook]

I could go for a Drew/Gob team.

What happened to this since it is now James, Pers, Me?

[gobbledygook]

Thats not a misrep. There is a way that he might not have seen the post. If he was catching up and was a page behind the current page when he quoted from 971 in 978 977 could have already been posted and wouldnt show up in his pedit screen, it would show up at the bottom, but i never look there and wouldnt expect anyone to. If he saw the post about secret reasons why not quote that one and vote with it?

Thats not how my preview edit works. Whenever I go to post anything if I have been taking a while to post it will show me the posts that have been made.

Also, that’s the question I have about Drew.

I felt the nk was strange and I saw a narrative growing that was pushing towards me being a suspect

What do you mean? I didn’t see any sort of narrative pushing or growing.