Pokémon Fusion U-Pick [Game Over]

[Chemist1422]

hi

GUYS

[Chemist1422]

hi

GUYS

VOTE: Sanic
Because greetings...

Sanic is not a player in this game and this vote won't be counted! Votes should be unambiguous.

wow,

RUDE

[Chemist1422]

whoops, accidental multiquote

[Chemist1422]

Y’all out here making nightmare fuel and I was making cute/cool stuff.

NIGHTMARE FUEL?

not even close.

[Chemist1422]

Sanic

quit

crumbing

NO.

don't see what it hurts.

[Chemist1422]

Sanic

quit

crumbing

NO.

don't see what it hurts.

If I can accurately guess your pokemon fusion you have to stop.

Spoiler:

Zapdos - fusion of Zapdos and Gyarados

WRONG.

not too far though.

[Chemist1422]

did gamma just spoil endgame

VOTE: GE

[Chemist1422]

I am masons with mastina lol
Btw writing in the color of my pokemon's type

COPYCAT

[Chemist1422]

I have an ability that deals with type advantage, that’s what it can hurt, Chem.

coming back to this, isn't the damage already done?

MY TYPES SHOULD HAVE BEEN OBVIOUS BY MY SECOND OR THIRD POST BY THIS LOGIC.

[Chemist1422]

oversoul analysis on fl is a good look.

FOR BOTH OF THEM, ACTUALLY.

[Chemist1422]

VOTE: redflavor

can case later.

[Chemist1422]

VOTE: redflavor

can case later.

What? I have like 5 posts, what are you gonna case?

WAIT FOR THE CASE.

can explain everything then.

[Chemist1422]

Ok I'll wait, If the case is good I better flip scum haha

...

...

WH

at.

[Chemist1422]

I am masons with mastina lol
Btw writing in the color of my pokemon's type

...

HOLD UP.

wasn’t dark type introduced gen 2?

[Chemist1422]

I am masons with mastina lol
Btw writing in the color of my pokemon's type

...

HOLD UP.

wasn’t dark type introduced gen 2?

What theme are you using (Black, Sepia, Silver, Tigers)?

silver.

[Chemist1422]

I'm really really not liking alchemist so far in this game. Pushing us for silly reasons and then backing off, and then semi-defending skellen and then saying "no i was interested in the reasoning" or whatever. I feel like alchemist is being really soft in the directions he's moving.

VOTE: Alchemist[/v

Menalque is someone who is being like, "authentic" to a silly fake extent, which is something I sometimes tend to do as well. He's working very hard to try and get townread. I'm not sure that has to be AI but it's a thread to watch out for.

Pink Ball strikes me as someone who is being actually authentic, rather than just faking it. It's what real slightly low-effort town posting looks like. I mean, it contributes little but I think he's certainly town.

-V

So you think anytime someone asks asks one player why they’re voting someone then they must be defending that person? I could see Mastina saying it for reactions but this here looks like a scum push.

VOTE: Love and Friendship

I'm sorry but "Alchemist[/v

Menalque is someone who is being like, "authentic" to a silly fake extent, which is something I sometimes tend to do as well. He's working very hard to try and get townread. I'm not sure that has to be AI but it's a thread to watch out for.

Pink Ball strikes me as someone who is being actually authentic, rather than just faking it. It's what real slightly low-effort town posting looks like. I mean, it contributes little but I think he's certainly town.

-V"

is not a player and I can't count this vote.

LOL

pfft

[Chemist1422]

Spoiler:

Hot take: There’s exactly one scum in the hated group.

How would you know

odd misinterpretation that feels like shade

Y’all in a neighborhood then?

Is anyone really town reading this slot, or ..

Why do you think that post is scummy?
FoS Oversoul

CHAINSAW.

The likelihood there is 1 scum in avengers/pb/flippy/RF is a pretty good reason in rvs.

What i didn't even post

CAUGHT FOR THE WRONG REASONS VIBE

VOTE: Oversoul
What makes it townie lol

odd tone and vote timing

I am known for not reading

feels like an excuse

Yeah true, just saying being protown doesn't make you town immediately...

DOUBTCASTING, LIKELY SPEWS FL TOWN IF RED WOLF

VOTE: Redflavour

his posts feel empty and not genuine.

My posts always feel empty because they are.
Not geniune? I don't think so

frozen-ish response

VOTE: redflavor

can case later.

What? I have like 5 posts, what are you gonna case?

THAT POST WAS HIS 17TH. MAKES ME FEEL LIKE HE WAS TRYING TO STOP ME FROM CASING HIM.

[Chemist1422]

Red can be Town.

Alch why was this?

Because I think 217 is a joke that more likely comes from Town rather than scum.

disagree.

IT’S PRETTY FROZEN

in my opinion.

[Chemist1422]

o/ Hola, my name is pisskop, and I'll be your backup mod. My favorite Gen1 Pokemon are Haunter, Cloister, Parasect, and Nidoking.


Just think of me as a friend who only wants to watch as this game of lies, deceit, and and 20-way rock, paper, scissors tears you apart.
Good Luck, and mind the bump!

~pisskop

INTERESTING TASTE.

i like you.

[Chemist1422]

you're not scumhunting

.

It's D1, I don't.

Then how do you help town D1?

You're putting words in my mouth.

How?

Woosh

Cool, policy lynch time
VOTE: DEB

lazy vote.

[Chemist1422]

Serious post to the extent that I’m dropping my gimmick

Has anyone actually been reading my posts or is my gimmick too annoying

[Chemist1422]

@mod V/LA through Saturday

[Chemist1422]

AND WE’RE BACK.

kind of.

[Chemist1422]

was my red case

COMPLETELY IGNORED?

[Chemist1422]

Spoiler:

Hot take: There’s exactly one scum in the hated group.

How would you know

odd misinterpretation that feels like shade

Y’all in a neighborhood then?

Is anyone really town reading this slot, or ..

Why do you think that post is scummy?
FoS Oversoul

CHAINSAW.

The likelihood there is 1 scum in avengers/pb/flippy/RF is a pretty good reason in rvs.

What i didn't even post

CAUGHT FOR THE WRONG REASONS VIBE

VOTE: Oversoul
What makes it townie lol

odd tone and vote timing

I am known for not reading

feels like an excuse

Yeah true, just saying being protown doesn't make you town immediately...

DOUBTCASTING, LIKELY SPEWS FL TOWN IF RED WOLF

VOTE: Redflavour

his posts feel empty and not genuine.

My posts always feel empty because they are.
Not geniune? I don't think so

frozen-ish response

VOTE: redflavor

can case later.

What? I have like 5 posts, what are you gonna case?

THAT POST WAS HIS 17TH. MAKES ME FEEL LIKE HE WAS TRYING TO STOP ME FROM CASING HIM.

THIS

one

[Chemist1422]

Book kid can be town for now

Gamma can too so long as he promises to stop doubting our shining light’s leadership

YOU HAD A SCUMREAD ON BK

earlier, what changed?

[Chemist1422]

Book kid can be town for now

Gamma can too so long as he promises to stop doubting our shining light’s leadership

YOU HAD A SCUMREAD ON BK

earlier, what changed?

It was p weak and she used the phrase electric boogaloo

this read

SHOCKS

me

[Chemist1422]

But no! Your new name is.......

pure boi

Because you are pure

And you are a boi

Do you like it?

i,

FOR ONE/TWO,

love it.

[Chemist1422]

Seeking a replacement for RedFlavor.

well

THEN

[Chemist1422]

Maria is town

for what?

[Chemist1422]

I don’t really get book kid’s push on FL but I do think he believes everything he said.

GOOD

take

[Chemist1422]

itlepip can be maybe town?

THEIR SHEEP COMMENT TOWARD OVERSOUL FEELS OFF,

but I can’t say how. ignoring that their iso is fine.

[Chemist1422]

I did a poke fusion of what I think your Pokémon is Chemist and it looks horrifying

...

...

YOU’RE

wrong.

[Chemist1422]

I have a hot take on chemist but I don't know if it's town or scum motivated.

Pin.

?

[Chemist1422]

how is my gimmick

TOWN INDICATIVE, SS?

[Chemist1422]

I don't mind 1v1ing the obv scum PB if you wanna trade blows

If I'm not mistaken, you scumread him for 256?

Is that hubris something PB never has as town?

think this question is towny unless pb is scum and maria is town,

I DON'T THINK SCUM WOULD ENGAGE IN THIS CONVERSATION UNLESS TO ASSIST A BUDDY,

if that makes sense

[Chemist1422]

I don't think she has done enough to build a wagon on her, it would be purely random and I don't think we're getting more info by voting her. She's in my PoE, but because there are townier players, not because she's scummier.

i was voting maria for my read on red.

SHE HASN’T REALLY CHANGED THE READ MUCH.

[Chemist1422]

I think that's already confirmed as not true since Oversoul claimed Buttervee and that it was hated because it was an abomination

I mean, I'm not reading 50 pages of game to find that, so I'll just accept that I'm likely incorrect and move on.

Buttervee actually sounds pretty cute. But w/e. What do i know.

Uh, @RCE is that the reason you are Hated as well?
If not, can you tell us why that is?

- 'Murica, Hellz Yes!

It's a nightmare combination but our reason for being hated is *somewhat* different. No guesses have been right so far but giving away the common link narrows the pool down significantly and that's cheating so.

It's also part of the reason I think Chemist is being intentionally misleading.

about what?

[Chemist1422]

VOTE: Maria

If it won't be Gamma, I am fine with Maria as well. Feel a bit bad though with it being mostly for her pedecessor. That's L-2.

checks out.

[Chemist1422]

?

If that post from itlepip didn’t make sense, it’s because he’s once again on the misrep highway heading to not accurately portraying what was going on ville

Gamma, wanna get on itlepip with me?

I recall suspecting him at one point
Who did he replace again?

Vij

[Chemist1422]

?

If that post from itlepip didn’t make sense, it’s because he’s once again on the misrep highway heading to not accurately portraying what was going on ville

Gamma, wanna get on itlepip with me?

I recall suspecting him at one point
Who did he replace again?

Vij

CRAP.

[Chemist1422]

huh

[Chemist1422]

Spoiler:

Hot take: There’s exactly one scum in the hated group.

How would you know

odd misinterpretation that feels like shade

Y’all in a neighborhood then?

Is anyone really town reading this slot, or ..

Why do you think that post is scummy?
FoS Oversoul

CHAINSAW.

The likelihood there is 1 scum in avengers/pb/flippy/RF is a pretty good reason in rvs.

What i didn't even post

CAUGHT FOR THE WRONG REASONS VIBE

VOTE: Oversoul
What makes it townie lol

odd tone and vote timing

I am known for not reading

feels like an excuse

Yeah true, just saying being protown doesn't make you town immediately...

DOUBTCASTING, LIKELY SPEWS FL TOWN IF RED WOLF

VOTE: Redflavour

his posts feel empty and not genuine.

My posts always feel empty because they are.
Not geniune? I don't think so

frozen-ish response

VOTE: redflavor

can case later.

What? I have like 5 posts, what are you gonna case?

THAT POST WAS HIS 17TH. MAKES ME FEEL LIKE HE WAS TRYING TO STOP ME FROM CASING HIM.

this reads super confbiased to me

pedit: wig

MIGHT BE FAIR.

[Chemist1422]

reading flips’ iso i see like no original thoughts.

VOTE: flippy

[Chemist1422]

yo

WE GAVE UP ON CATCHING UP AT PAGE 72

what's up?

[Chemist1422]

yo

WE GAVE UP ON CATCHING UP AT PAGE 72

what's up?

We’re killing the Avengers

Spoiler:

You didnt hear it from me tho.


Also. Didn’t know you’re a hydra

IT’S FUSION.

aren’t we all?

[Chemist1422]

My cute choice. Also Marowak + Zapdos looks sick.

awww.

[Chemist1422]

UNVOTE:

started looking into avengers,

DIDN’T LIKE THEIR PUSH ON ALCH EARLY.

not done yet though.

[Chemist1422]

So was the Hated stuff a Day 1 only thing or did someone turn it off?

D1 only

[Chemist1422]

Also RCE I can confirm you are acting a bit weirder than usual. I don't think it's alignment indicative though.

I don’t know what you guys are seeing, I always think RCE is weird but no more weird than in LNT.

~L

@avengers have you literally seen a player who is as obv!town as pure boi is this game? I will follow him, and his wholesome content, until the end of time (this game)

Pink Ball is bae :3

Best mason brudda

-IM

Otherwise I am kind of townreading Alchemist for #559 and #560. He felt kind of shallow and flying under the radar to me until then.

@Alchemist:
Are you still scumreading L&F?

I kinda disagree with this read and also dislike that he's been sitting on that vote for like forever

~ Black Widow

You guys post too much. I'm the one in a 5 headed hydra. How am I behind? lmao

I'll Iso Maria. Willing to go there by deadline for a lynch, but I'd rather read up on them first.

- 'Murica, Hellz Yes!

Don't really like any of these posts

Can go into detail on any particular one if anyone wants us to

[Chemist1422]

Y’all

Hi

[Chemist1422]

Y’all are nerds

We mean that in a good way though <3

[Chemist1422]

Don't really like any of these posts

Can go into detail on any particular one if anyone wants us to

OK sure, go into mine

~ Black Widow

It felt oddly low-confidence given how strong the push on Alch was earlier, which was another thing we didn’t like when ISOing you

[Chemist1422]

Don't really like any of these posts

Can go into detail on any particular one if anyone wants us to

OK sure, go into mine

~ Black Widow

It felt oddly low-confidence given how strong the push on Alch was earlier, which was another thing we didn’t like when ISOing you

Disagree that it was low-confidence, still think that Alch is scummy, still dislike how he was sitting on that vote forever; I'd vote him

Who's 'we'? Also how are you reading Alch?

~ Black Widow

“We” is a fusion joke, I’ll stop before people get confused

I’m reading Alch as town by meta comparison to Krazy’s anime upick

[Chemist1422]

I’m reading Alch as town by meta comparison to Krazy’s anime upick

I don't have any alch meta, at least as far as I can remember, but I think he's been kinda scummy in

this

game

What's different about him in comparison to there?

He got described as lackluster which I think was relatively accurate, he didn’t really seem like he was solving on anything more than surface level

Compare it to this game where he comes out of the gate with his scumhunting radar active, evidenced by his vote on LAF

[Chemist1422]

I’m reading Alch as town by meta comparison to Krazy’s anime upick

I don't have any alch meta, at least as far as I can remember, but I think he's been kinda scummy in

this

game

What's different about him in comparison to there?

He got described as lackluster which I think was relatively accurate, he didn’t really seem like he was solving on anything more than surface level

Compare it to this game where he comes out of the gate with his scumhunting radar active, evidenced by his vote on LAF

Uh lackluster is like the exact word I'd use to describe him here, so try again. He's just floating in and out and posting inane reads and not really doing anything

His vote on LAF wasn't scumhunting, it was trying to find a place to park his vote, which I said at the time

~ Black Widow

On reread I kinda agree with you to be honest

A lot of his one-liner reads and questions about reasons for voting feel the same as KAU

[Chemist1422]

So you know that catchup I was meant to do?
Didn't do it. Coulda, shoulda, but didn't.
OH WELL.
I'll do it later.
For now tho:
VOTE: Avengers

Hi, let's talk about this

~ Black Widow

It’s a big mood

[Chemist1422]

Don't really like any of these posts

Can go into detail on any particular one if anyone wants us to

OK sure, go into mine

~ Black Widow

It felt oddly low-confidence given how strong the push on Alch was earlier, which was another thing we didn’t like when ISOing you

Disagree that it was low-confidence, still think that Alch is scummy, still dislike how he was sitting on that vote forever; I'd vote him

Who's 'we'? Also how are you reading Alch?

~ Black Widow

“We” is a fusion joke, I’ll stop before people get confused

I’m reading Alch as town by meta comparison to Krazy’s anime upick

What happened to the colors btw

It got kind of annoying to roleplay two different personalities and made it harder to respond to some things

I decided to ride it out for D1 for the sake of flavor, so I guess it was related to the hated

[Chemist1422]

So you know that catchup I was meant to do?
Didn't do it. Coulda, shoulda, but didn't.
OH WELL.
I'll do it later.
For now tho:
VOTE: Avengers

Hi, let's talk about this

~ Black Widow

It’s a big mood

yes, apparently.

Now, back to alch. Would you vote him with me?

Maybe

I’m not that confident anywhere else but this post has my pocket radar pinging

[Chemist1422]

Why’d you ride it out for me?

That’s not what I meant lol

I meant flavor as in the theming of the game

[Chemist1422]

I was busy but I’m back now what’s up

[Chemist1422]

I was busy but I’m back now what’s up

people wanna lynch avengers (bad), other people wanna lynch maria(good), other people wanna lynch me (v bad)

Cool

Why is Maria a good lynch from your PoV

[Chemist1422]

I don't think Menalque is that annoying.

He doesn't annoy me, I think he is creepy with this "pure" shit. I don't see how other people don't find this disturbing?

What

[Chemist1422]

I’m caught up and just kind of generally confused

[Chemist1422]

But your baseline is to assume that his scumgame is that transparently different from his towngame rather than assuming that he uses similar tactics and methods as both alignments?

My baseline is to assume Town doesn’t go around buddying other slots because they can’t be sure if the other slot is scum or not.

I thought Menal had a strong townread on PB so that’s why he was buddying him

[Chemist1422]

Maria why are you pushing for a policy lynch

[Chemist1422]

I feel like DEB has given a comprehensive readslist that’s just all in his own way and is hidden through the GIFs and jokes

[Chemist1422]

Maria seems super lacklustre in this game which is in contrast to starry night where she was a lot more active and engaged

The kind of light pushing of two slots while also being open to policy two others seems like a way to keep her lynch pool as wide as possible while still being able to justify a vote anywhere within that

I can agree

VOTE: Maria

RF was wolfy and Maria hasn't made me feel better on the slot much

[Chemist1422]

Book kid replacing out is scummy

Is this a joke or

[Chemist1422]

Anyone who replaces into a game on an alt is scum. Hands down. Never happens as town.

Replaces from alt to main or main to alt?

Because the former is definitely not true

[Chemist1422]

itlepip has been prodded!

itlerip

[Chemist1422]

book kid has requested replacement.

Ausuka replaces book kid! Please welcome her!

hi guys, I just replaced in, give me 48 hours to catch up please

Book kid replacing out is scummy

Book kid replacing out is scummy

Is this a joke or

Legit the funniest sequence of posts we’ve had all game

this has been replaced

[Chemist1422]

Chem I really feel like you don’t

do

that much in games but just kind of avoid lynches by being funny

LOL

I mean that’s kinda fair but I have been doing some stuff this game

[Chemist1422]

I mean you did case RF and you’re voting maria which is good, so maybe that was a lil unfair

Nah not really

I feel like you’re hinting something so I might go metacase Alch

[Chemist1422]

Fencesitting is not a scumtell.

It is when scum does it.

...no?

?????????????????????????

[Chemist1422]

What are you confused about?

Just because scum do something doesn't make it a scumtell.

yeah no I know

I'm confused at RCE's response mostly

[Chemist1422]

I'm gonna claim doctor here and that's why I knew I was roleblocked cause I was on Kat last night.
Carry on.

UNVOTE: Maria

k then

[Chemist1422]

I still never got a clear answer on why people think Maria’s scum.

RF was really wolfy and Maria didn’t change it for me

[Chemist1422]

I mean you did case RF and you’re voting maria which is good, so maybe that was a lil unfair

Nah not really

I feel like you’re hinting something so I might go metacase Alch

I'm gonna claim doctor here and that's why I knew I was roleblocked cause I was on Kat last night.
Carry on.

But I'm the doctor

VOTE: Maria

hmmmmm

and yeah I’ll get to that at some point

VOTE: maria

[Chemist1422]

Why can't there be 2

There can

I’m just not treating it as a clearing claim anymore

[Chemist1422]

Why can't there be 2

There can

I’m just not treating it as a clearing claim anymore

Also why did you not question Ausuka’s claim?

[Chemist1422]

Mastina thought deb was scum, his pop on seemed opportunistic, it’s odd he hasn’t been vig’d yet

I mean given the HP mechanic it's quite possible he was like partially vigged

Also I’m assuming it’s good practice for the other mason to claim here? Or no?

Ye, I remember RF slot claimed it but I assumed it was a joke at that point in time and I think someone else did as well?

[Chemist1422]

I’m a novice night 1 loyal Vigilante.

VOTE: Avengers

Is this a scumclaim?

Maybe newbtown?

Early town reads on Debbie D oh double g, RCE, Oversoul

I agree on DEB and Oversoul, I think

I think you can probably read RCE better than me, so what are you seeing there that's town? His entrance is pinging me

~ Black Widow

this is potentially a bad look for DEB and a good one for RCE

[Chemist1422]

I'm not done looking through Avengers but I'm pretty confident on Alch being spewed town just from what I remember

[Chemist1422]

V/LA until the 8th

[Chemist1422]

V/LA until the 8th

And then there’s this

yes, I think you can clearly see the significance of this

(I definitely butchered that quote but w/e)

what's happenin'

[Chemist1422]

VOTE: itlepip

L-2

not gonna be here again tonight but itle isn’t towny and their push on DEB was meh

[Chemist1422]

Good morning

[Chemist1422]

VOTE: itlepip

L-2

not gonna be here again tonight but itle isn’t towny and their push on DEB was meh

Do you think DEB is town here? Like I don't think my case was convincing, it was more to refute DEB trying to get credit for killing avengers. I can make a case if people want although I think isoing DEB and avengers should be enough.

Also I've definitely been rusty this game, but outside of VCA arguments I don't see how I've not been towny... I liked my wagon more before town started joining it

I'm not convinced on DEB town

and if you were towny you wouldn't be at L-2 :p

kidding, I can go more in-depth shortly

[Chemist1422]

Basically consider pink ball double voter on top of whatever else he has going

I needed to redress the roles somehow because

I fucking BET that my role is the best of all

This is almost word for word a quote from a PB game where he said the same thing about his ability to lick people

BRILLIANT

wh

[Chemist1422]

I feel like we’ve reached the speed run point of today but there’s no consensus on who to speedrun

[Chemist1422]

I want the rest of the playerlist to actually play the game.

@Chemist start doing something or I'll get you lynched like I always do.

>implying I’m not the one getting myself lynched by being useless

Anyway

[Chemist1422]

Debbie, you have posted one read, and literally everything else you have done has been prodging by way of gif. Can you please actually play the game?

The argument isn't that DEB should live, (cause he shouldn't). But we are in a setup with a lot of vigges (we think), so its better to use it on that slot and pressure a slot that is actually playing that you can make reads off of/ is paying enough attention to claim if they need to.

Katyusha, if you read the VT role pm it is basically a vig. I think its reasonably safe to assume DEB will die in the night.

VOTE: DEB

If someone attacks DEB, and then claims it, I won't vote them until lylo. I don't understand why you join a game if you literally have no intention of playing it.

meh, I'd rather lynch you here, but will probably go back to flippy so that we don't nl

Sorry my internet died for a couple minutes there

This is the start of their push on DEB, it jumps from advising them to be vigged to a rolefish attempt while pushing them to be lynched and it’s just kinda bleh

[Chemist1422]

Oh, I 100% don't blame you for that, my votes this game have been hot garbage. Pretty sure I stopped a d1 lynch on Avengers to lynch flippy cause I thought Skitt was super town... at least I've had consistently bad reads.

Also no worries, Menalque got under my skin way earlier in the game, you thinking I'm scum is always frustrating cause the point of the game is to not be scumread but I can't say I blame you.

Also this is semi-unrelated but they’re kinda casing themselves here

[Chemist1422]

Really sad DEB survived the night, there literally is no reason to think that slot is town.

Gamma is still almost certainly scum. My other scum reads are kinda all over the place right now, though I think my town reads are generally similar. Also have a decent to large project right now so probably won't be posting for a little bit.

ALSO, Star lord being powerful but immature is literally his defining characteristic, like its what the second movie was about. They built the plot around the characters, at least in that instance (Dr.Strange stopped having a character in that film).

VOTE: Gamma

So there’s this

And for B, I’m not saying it is or isn’t, I’m still somewhat undecided, just thought I’d bring it up

[Chemist1422]

Debbie, you have posted one read, and literally everything else you have done has been prodging by way of gif. Can you please actually play the game?

The argument isn't that DEB should live, (cause he shouldn't). But we are in a setup with a lot of vigges (we think), so its better to use it on that slot and pressure a slot that is actually playing that you can make reads off of/ is paying enough attention to claim if they need to.

Katyusha, if you read the VT role pm it is basically a vig. I think its reasonably safe to assume DEB will die in the night.

VOTE: DEB

If someone attacks DEB, and then claims it, I won't vote them until lylo. I don't understand why you join a game if you literally have no intention of playing it.

meh, I'd rather lynch you here, but will probably go back to flippy so that we don't nl

Sorry my internet died for a couple minutes there

This is the start of their push on DEB, it jumps from advising them to be vigged to a rolefish attempt while pushing them to be lynched and it’s just kinda bleh

is there anything wrong with advising Deb to be vigged? i mean, i did the same thing, and i think it makes perfect sense.

i don't really see the rolefish attempt here.

There’s nothing wrong with it, but there’s a lack of consistency between them wanting DEB to be vigged and their vote there

And the rolefish is asking for a vig to claim to keep their vote off DEB

[Chemist1422]

With regards to scum motivation, the DEB push got stronger on the day Avengers was lynched so I think the potential motivation could be to divert the lynch off a buddy

I dunno I think you’re making a lot of sense but I don’t think you’re right

Does that mean I’m in denial?

[Chemist1422]

The scum motivation point was regarding itle's pushing of both lynching and vigging, which was your point against him. I don't really get what you're talking about with pushing Deb on d2 tbh; I don't think it's related to what you were saying before, and itle was voteparking on Gamma d2. Itle wasn't the only one not to push Avengers d2. For example, Menalque was pushing for Maria's lynch instead; what makes Itle distracting from an Avengers lynch but him not?

stop it get that logic away from me

UNVOTE:

[Chemist1422]

ok i was trying to read chemist but I don't think I got anything substantial out of this at least itle's wagon is smaller i guess

chemist do you have reads outside itle?

by this point my brain’s fallen asleep and I can’t remember half the playerlist

Alch/RCE spewed town I think

Maria I think was also still wolfy

[Chemist1422]

Chem I do seem to remember you suggesting you would case alch and then never following through

Yeah I procrastinated on it and then Avengers flipped scum so I came to the conclusion they were spewed town and my read was bad

[Chemist1422]

ok i was trying to read chemist but I don't think I got anything substantial out of this at least itle's wagon is smaller i guess

chemist do you have reads outside itle?

by this point my brain’s fallen asleep and I can’t remember half the playerlist

Alch/RCE spewed town I think

Maria I think was also still wolfy

How did either of us spew town?

spewed from Avengers

[Chemist1422]

I’m rly tired rn and about to go to sleep

But the stuff from last page really seemed off and I don’t think those set of posts comes from town!ausuka and town!chem. like they’re both trying to move the gamestate in opposite way. Chem wants it to stay where it is, ausuka is trying to open it up in a new way. I don’t think that comes fro scum (I think they want one gamestate or another) but I think it’s very likely scum would prefer one gamestate enough to push for it over another

Chem also just feels similar to when we were scum together in Pokemon ruby but from what others are saying I’m not sure if him mostly non-efforting is NAI

I don't really see how this is scum indicative? If it can be TvS either way because of the points of view, each point of view could be either alignment, so it's not a basis to set up a TvS

And yeah me non-efforting is NAI but I've been trying (although likely failing) to do better

[Chemist1422]

VOTE: MariaR

VOTE: MariaR

[Chemist1422]

Chemist, can you explain why Maria is scum?

RF was wolfy, I had a case that went into more detail on that

Maria was somewhat disengaged early and then they claimed and then ditched, their last post was sort of a content promise that never got followed up on

I think there was something else that I forgot

[Chemist1422]

Menalque feels townie

care to expand on this?

[Chemist1422]

No

ok then

anything else to say?

[Chemist1422]

No

ok then

anything else to say?

Like what?

Just wondering if you had any other thoughts

It was two days since you had last posted at that time

[Chemist1422]

Oh, not really. I'm hoping Master would find a new target, since I'm not sure this one is a Werebeast :c

k fair enough

[Chemist1422]

Mena, what do you think about Chemist?

I’m rly tired rn and about to go to sleep

But the stuff from last page really seemed off and I don’t think those set of posts comes from town!ausuka and town!chem. like they’re both trying to move the gamestate in opposite way. Chem wants it to stay where it is, ausuka is trying to open it up in a new way. I don’t think that comes fro scum (I think they want one gamestate or another) but I think it’s very likely scum would prefer one gamestate enough to push for it over another

Chem also just feels similar to when we were scum together in Pokemon ruby but from what others are saying I’m not sure if him mostly non-efforting is NAI

[Chemist1422]

Well that last line is what I needed, thanks Chem.

What do you think about that? Do you think is valid reasoning?

Not really?

It doesn't really go into detail, and the detail it does go into Menal specifically says is NAI

Plus I have a reputation on MU for being hard to meta-read, I think it's accurate to the extent that I play the same as scum as I do in some of my town games, so there's that as well

[Chemist1422]

Mod notes: π

Mmm

pie?

[Chemist1422]

PB, I read you iso a little bit and your vote progression makes absolutely 0 sense, can you please explain what has been going through your head?

What...?

Your mind is inscrutable

[Chemist1422]

VOTE: DEB

L-1

[Chemist1422]

if anyone needs someone to make a flavor argument based off a spinoff game hit me up

if not I'm gonna do some stuff real quick then get back to this

[Chemist1422]

@Menalque - Guess what?

I’m on your side now.

I think Alch/Ausuka is S/S.

I don't really agree given Avengers interactions with Alch

[Chemist1422]

@mod

the title says "day 3"

fixed! -skyg

[Chemist1422]

Spoiler: Avengers on Alch

VOTE: RCEnigma because anyone that posts first is obviously overeager scum

Also, although it's not listed in the OP, I am a hydra of Vijarada and McMenno, and we promise nobody else haha. And we will sign, or at least I will.

-Vijarada

VOTE: flippynips because of this totally believable claim
-V

Why are you switching up your rvs vote?

VOTE: Love and Friendship

This is also pretty bad. I think it's kinda scummy to pop into a thread when there's already content and make a non-chalant random vote when there's already things to engage with - that's why I didn't like your entrance

This post also feels like that - why are you complaining that he switched his rvs? Why is it scummy to switch an rvs vote? Why is this what you're choosing to engage with when there's already real content?

~ Black Widow

He explained why.

Avengers’ believable claim.

Is that what he meant? Flippy hasn’t even posted so I read the post as a joke - “vote flippy because [insert generic reason here]”.

I still think the switch is scummy.

It isn't

------------skipping ahead-----------

Don't really like any of these posts

Can go into detail on any particular one if anyone wants us to

OK sure, go into mine

~ Black Widow

It felt oddly low-confidence given how strong the push on Alch was earlier, which was another thing we didn’t like when ISOing you

Disagree that it was low-confidence, still think that Alch is scummy, still dislike how he was sitting on that vote forever; I'd vote him

Who's 'we'? Also how are you reading Alch?

~ Black Widow

I’m reading Alch as town by meta comparison to Krazy’s anime upick

I don't have any alch meta, at least as far as I can remember, but I think he's been kinda scummy in

this

game

What's different about him in comparison to there?

Figured I'd bring this up in response to the pressure on Alch

[Chemist1422]

FEEL MY WRATH, MOTHERFUCKERS

that makes sense ya know

[Chemist1422]

Spoiler: Avengers on Alch

VOTE: RCEnigma because anyone that posts first is obviously overeager scum

Also, although it's not listed in the OP, I am a hydra of Vijarada and McMenno, and we promise nobody else haha. And we will sign, or at least I will.

-Vijarada

VOTE: flippynips because of this totally believable claim
-V

Why are you switching up your rvs vote?

VOTE: Love and Friendship

This is also pretty bad. I think it's kinda scummy to pop into a thread when there's already content and make a non-chalant random vote when there's already things to engage with - that's why I didn't like your entrance

This post also feels like that - why are you complaining that he switched his rvs? Why is it scummy to switch an rvs vote? Why is this what you're choosing to engage with when there's already real content?

~ Black Widow

He explained why.

Avengers’ believable claim.

Is that what he meant? Flippy hasn’t even posted so I read the post as a joke - “vote flippy because [insert generic reason here]”.

I still think the switch is scummy.

It isn't

------------skipping ahead-----------

Don't really like any of these posts

Can go into detail on any particular one if anyone wants us to

OK sure, go into mine

~ Black Widow

It felt oddly low-confidence given how strong the push on Alch was earlier, which was another thing we didn’t like when ISOing you

Disagree that it was low-confidence, still think that Alch is scummy, still dislike how he was sitting on that vote forever; I'd vote him

Who's 'we'? Also how are you reading Alch?

~ Black Widow

I’m reading Alch as town by meta comparison to Krazy’s anime upick

I don't have any alch meta, at least as far as I can remember, but I think he's been kinda scummy in

this

game

What's different about him in comparison to there?

Figured I'd bring this up in response to the pressure on Alch

Do you think this supports alch!scum or not?

No, hence the "in response"

[Chemist1422]

Spoiler: Avengers on Alch

VOTE: RCEnigma because anyone that posts first is obviously overeager scum

Also, although it's not listed in the OP, I am a hydra of Vijarada and McMenno, and we promise nobody else haha. And we will sign, or at least I will.

-Vijarada

VOTE: flippynips because of this totally believable claim
-V

Why are you switching up your rvs vote?

VOTE: Love and Friendship

This is also pretty bad. I think it's kinda scummy to pop into a thread when there's already content and make a non-chalant random vote when there's already things to engage with - that's why I didn't like your entrance

This post also feels like that - why are you complaining that he switched his rvs? Why is it scummy to switch an rvs vote? Why is this what you're choosing to engage with when there's already real content?

~ Black Widow

He explained why.

Avengers’ believable claim.

Is that what he meant? Flippy hasn’t even posted so I read the post as a joke - “vote flippy because [insert generic reason here]”.

I still think the switch is scummy.

It isn't

------------skipping ahead-----------

Don't really like any of these posts

Can go into detail on any particular one if anyone wants us to

OK sure, go into mine

~ Black Widow

It felt oddly low-confidence given how strong the push on Alch was earlier, which was another thing we didn’t like when ISOing you

Disagree that it was low-confidence, still think that Alch is scummy, still dislike how he was sitting on that vote forever; I'd vote him

Who's 'we'? Also how are you reading Alch?

~ Black Widow

I’m reading Alch as town by meta comparison to Krazy’s anime upick

I don't have any alch meta, at least as far as I can remember, but I think he's been kinda scummy in

this

game

What's different about him in comparison to there?

Figured I'd bring this up in response to the pressure on Alch

Do you think this supports alch!scum or not?

No, hence the "in response"

Why? That doesn’t seem out of skitt’s range for interacting with a scumbuddy

idk I just feel like if they were buddies, Avengers would at least fake some re-evaluation before trying to swing my vote there

[Chemist1422]

hi what’s up

[Chemist1422]

There are only a few of you guys who haven’t claimed, right?

GE, Jibril, Alch, Chemist?

vaporeon

(

vaporeon

+

JOLTEON

)

1-shot water vig (0/1/2 damage, used on deb night 2)

1-SHOT ELECTRIC VIG (0/1/2 DAMAGE, STILL UNUSED)

[Chemist1422]

Full disclosure: I’m in a neighborhood with RCEnigma, and a neighborhood with Gamma.

Day 2/Night 2 I had one with SS.

I claimed traitor in SS for reaction.

I claimed traitor in Gamma for reaction.

And I acted like I was traitor in my neighborhood with RCEnigma instead of my neighborhood with Gamma, so like...I technically scum slipped as town for the 2nd time in the same month.

okay wait hold on lemme grab something

FL if you’re around, was this your full claim?

[Chemist1422]

Spoiler:

VC 1.15

Skellen (3): Pink Ball, Menalque, Gamma Emerald
Gamma Emerald (3): Oversoul, Avengers, Skellen
Dr Easy Bake (2): mastina, RCEnigma
Oversoul (2): [hated], RedFlavor
RedFlavor (2): book kid, Chemist1422
Avengers (2): Flavor Leaf, Emperor flippyNips
Chemist1422 (1): [hated]
RCEnigma (1): [hated]
Alchemist21 (1): love and friendship
love and friendship (1): Alchemist21
Menalque (1): Dr Easy Bake

Not Voting (1): Something_Smart

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to reach a lynch. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2019-07-20 20:00:00).

VC 2.02

Avengers (5): RCEnigma, Flavor Leaf, Menalque, mastina, Dr Easy Bake
Menalque (1): Alchemist21

Not Voting (9): Something_Smart, Chemist1422, itlepip, Avengers, book kid, Pink Ball, MariaR, jibril, Gamma Emerald

With 15 players alive, it takes 8 to reach a lynch. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2019-08-06 18:10:00).

VC 2.06

Avengers (4): RCEnigma, mastina, Pink Ball, book kid
Menalque (3): Alchemist21, Flavor Leaf, Dr Easy Bake
MariaR (3): Menalque, Gamma Emerald, Jibril
Gamma Emerald (1): itlepip

Not Voting (4): Something_Smart, Chemist1422, Avengers, MariaR

With 15 players alive, it takes 8 to reach a lynch. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2019-08-06 18:10:00).

VC 2.10

MariaR (4): Menalque, Gamma Emerald, Jibril, Chemist1422
Avengers (3): mastina, Pink Ball, book kid
Menalque (2): Flavor Leaf, Dr Easy Bake
Gamma Emerald (1): itlepip
RCEnigma (1): MariaR
Dr Easy Bake (1): Alchemist21

Not Voting (3): Something_Smart, Avengers, RCEnigma

With 15 players alive, it takes 8 to reach a lynch. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2019-08-06 18:10:00).

VC 2.15

Avengers (6): mastina, Pink Ball, Ausuka, Flavor Leaf, Gamma Emerald, RCEnigma
MariaR (5): Menalque, Jibril, Dr Easy Bake, Chemist1422, Alchemist21
Gamma Emerald (1): itlepip
Ausuka (1): MariaR

Not Voting (2): Something_Smart, Avengers

With 15 players alive, it takes 8 to reach a lynch. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2019-08-06 18:10:00).

VC 2.16

Avengers (8): mastina, Pink Ball, Ausuka, Flavor Leaf, Gamma Emerald, RCEnigma, Dr Easy Bake, Jibril
MariaR (3): Menalque, Chemist1422, Alchemist21
Gamma Emerald (1): itlepip
Ausuka (1): MariaR

Not Voting (2): Something_Smart, Avengers

With 15 players alive, it takes 8 to reach a lynch. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2019-08-06 18:10:00).

If someone who has access to a computer could color these in that’d be great

Early conclusions are Gamma v and Jibril w off this

[Chemist1422]

Flame attack, and a commute (out to sea)

ah okay

[Chemist1422]

I have an ability that deals with type advantage, that’s what it can hurt, Chem.

this is why I asked about the claim

[Chemist1422]

Is there anything wrong with Menal/Gamma/Alch as a team, or Mena/Jibril/Alch?

Alch/Avengers interactions still seem clearing for Alch

Mena/Jibril/Gamma work via that logic?

[Chemist1422]

Alch/Avengers interactions still seem clearing for Alch

You don't think Avengers could've been pushing on a buddy there? Why? Or is there something else?

I'm pretty sure I already explained this but it's quite possible I didn't in which case lolme

I think them pushing on Alch wasn't w/w but they way they were trying to swing my vote onto Alch makes me feel like they genuinely wanted Alch dead and I think that's what's unlikely to come from a buddy

[Chemist1422]

Especially if the scum team isn’t getting along.

However, Chemist makes me think he’s only scum if Alchemist is a partner of his now.

want a hint?

Spoiler:

I'm town

[Chemist1422]

well if you didn't need the hint then why'd you open the spoiler :/

ok anyway I gotta go for a little but I'll seriously get into stuff once I'm back

p-edit: Gamma, do you have any other abilities?

[Chemist1422]

does anyone want to coordinate hammer with me so we can pretend we're scum who just won

[Chemist1422]

keep in mind I still have a 1-shot electric vig if we wanna use that at all

[Chemist1422]

One more thing that no one actually claimed at any point

Should we be claiming HP values? Are we allowed to do that?

[Chemist1422]

Okay but should we be doing it though

[Chemist1422]

Reaching an evolved read*

was that a pun

[Chemist1422]

Is killing Jibril the small brain play or the big brain one here I can't tell

[Chemist1422]

Chemist, riddle me this: why were you hated on D1?

Lack of type compatibility

Hi I’m getting back to school so expect more/less content between 8 AM and 3 PM Central

[Chemist1422]

Actually Chemist bring hated D1 makes no sense with their claimed role?

Why not tho

[Chemist1422]

It doesn't look unsettling or disgusting

That’s not the reason, but thanks?

[Chemist1422]

Well what is the reason then?

I already told you

Type incompatibility

[Chemist1422]

Those type aren't incompatible though? Lantern exists

idk it’s just the reason given

Do you think I’m fakeclaiming my flavor after D1?

[Chemist1422]

why does chemist lie about his flavour? i literally cannot think of any reason to do that.

i don't think it's incompatible in terms of 'water/electric is impossible' but as in 'water and electricity don't mix'

that

[Chemist1422]

I actually think I was hated for trying to make my pokemon too normal

[Chemist1422]

VOTE: Jibril

They look bad off VCA
They’re dodging attention when they shouldn’t be

[Chemist1422]

I actually think I was hated for trying to make my pokemon too normal

ok I'm confused are you talking about type compatibility or making pokemon normal?

Both

The former is the given reason, the latter is my suspicion

[Chemist1422]

Spoiler:

I mean you did case RF and you’re voting maria which is good, so maybe that was a lil unfair

Nah not really

I feel like you’re hinting something so I might go metacase Alch

I'm gonna claim doctor here and that's why I knew I was roleblocked cause I was on Kat last night.
Carry on.

But I'm the doctor

VOTE: Maria

I mean you did case RF and you’re voting maria which is good, so maybe that was a lil unfair

Nah not really

I feel like you’re hinting something so I might go metacase Alch

I'm gonna claim doctor here and that's why I knew I was roleblocked cause I was on Kat last night.
Carry on.

But I'm the doctor

VOTE: Maria

hmmmmm

and yeah I’ll get to that at some point

VOTE: maria

Why can't there be 2

Why can't there be 2

There can

I’m just not treating it as a clearing claim anymore

Also why did you not question Ausuka’s claim?

Why can't there be 2

There can

I’m just not treating it as a clearing claim anymore

Also why did you not question Ausuka’s claim?

Because I don't really see why he CCs rn

Also a thing that happened

[Chemist1422]

- Non-town players are given "fake-claims."

[Chemist1422]

- Non-town players are given "fake-claims."

zzz

Pedit: ya

Chemist what point are you trying to make about me and gamma? I don't really get it.

it feels like a w/w interaction

[Chemist1422]

Whats w/w?

Also alch which nights did you use your ability?

wolf/wolf, aka scum/scum

[Chemist1422]

@mod

Are players informed when they lose HP?

[Chemist1422]

I'm not the hailer either

I forgot weather was a thing in this

[Chemist1422]

We're allowed to talk about what picks we sent in right

[Chemist1422]

Alright so if it lends some credit to me not being the hailer I sent in every combination of Vaporeon, Jolteon, and Flareon

So

[Chemist1422]

The play is flat out crazy to me and you're the most likely person here to do flat out crazy things, and I think a lot of the other claims are likely true regardless of alignment. Like the whole 'hidden weirdness within the setup' thing is super FL. That said Rce did townread you pretty hard so idk.

Wait you think I'd do flat out crazy things or was this talking to someone else

[Chemist1422]

The play is flat out crazy to me and you're the most likely person here to do flat out crazy things, and I think a lot of the other claims are likely true regardless of alignment. Like the whole 'hidden weirdness within the setup' thing is super FL. That said Rce did townread you pretty hard so idk.

Wait you think I'd do flat out crazy things or was this talking to someone else

That was to FL.

ah

carry on then

[Chemist1422]

I think gamma is scum plus one of ausuka/FL

Somehow I’m currently leaning it being ausuka despite yesterday

this is kinda where my head is at as well

only thing is gamma looks good off VCA

[Chemist1422]

Alright so if it lends some credit to me not being the hailer I sent in every combination of Vaporeon, Jolteon, and Flareon

So

In THAT case I can see the mod making you hated as a "fuck you"

Yeah same

[Chemist1422]

Is it bad that my thought process is part going to “am i more embarrassed by losing from mislynching town!FL while being manipulated by scum or am I more embarrassed by losing through mislynching ausuka/gamma through being manipulated by scum!FL”?

not at all

[Chemist1422]

Is it bad that my thought process is part going to “am i more embarrassed by losing from mislynching town!FL while being manipulated by scum or am I more embarrassed by losing through mislynching ausuka/gamma through being manipulated by scum!FL”?

not at all

Why do people gotta talk me into TRs on them only to say stuff that then makes me paranoid again

This feels a lot like you’re just subtly trying to create WIFOM chem

I would never subject anyone to that kind of torture on purpose

[Chemist1422]

Hiiiii

If no one claimed the hail thing is because the scumteam has it and probably another scum member relies on the hail to do cool stuff. I think Menalque didn't lie about being a roleblocker, but now I think he's scum and that him being at L-2 and not dying is because you guys were correct the whole time

If someone thinks there's another role that makes more sense for scum relying on hail, be my guest, I don't want to lynch Mena.

It actually would make sense if Menalque is actually Ice type and has an Ice move that needs Hail to apply Frozen status which would effectively be a roleblock.

Freeze and roleblock. Makes sense. Was it hailing on D2 tho? 'Cause Maria claimed being roleblocked that day.

iirc weather changes at SoD and it wasn't hailing D1

[Chemist1422]

iirc we also had a flipped roleblocker at some point so that counts as well

Would it be a waste of time for me to go back and track all the vig shots and such to try to find everyone's HP values so my shot tonight isn't wasted

[Chemist1422]

well first I'd need everyone to claim their HP (mine is 4 btw)

[Chemist1422]

Chem - ?/4 HP
Alch - ?/5 HP
FL
PB
Ausuka
GE
Menal
Jibril

[Chemist1422]

I'll check, but what's the point, Chem? Do we know who was hit by the already dead players?

No but I could try to look for softs

I figure it's better to try just in case
Chem - ?/4 HP
Alch - ?/5 HP
FL
PB - ?/4
Ausuka
GE
Menal
Jibril

[Chemist1422]

Chem - ?/4 HP (Water/Electric)
Alch - ?/5 HP
FL - ?/4 HP (Fire/Water)
PB - ?/4 HP
Ausuka
GE
Menal
Jibril

I'll grab all the types once I'm done with my homework

[Chemist1422]

Chem - ?/4 HP (Water/Electric)
Alch - ?/5 HP (Ghost/Water)
FL - ?/4 HP (Fire/Water)
PB - ?/4 HP (Psychic/Fighting)
Ausuka - ?/? HP (Grass/Grass?)
GE - ?/? HP (Psychic/Ground?)
Menal - ?/4 HP (Normal/Psychic)
Jibril - ?/? HP (Bug/Normal?)

I'm super effective on Alch and FL, normal on PB, Jibril, and Mena, and not very effective on Ausuka and GE

Kinda sucks that I'm not very effective on both of the people who I wanna shoot :/

[Chemist1422]

Okay so I might vig GE tonight

[Chemist1422]

Alright I'm off to bed

If someone can update the HP claim chart and get started on vig tracking while I'm asleep that'd be great

[Chemist1422]

So I assume this is how it feels to get Boon’d

I’m not even that mad

[Chemist1422]

I forgot to say thanks for modding, Sky!

oh yeah this