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[Emperor flippyNips]

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[Emperor flippyNips]

most solid page top I've ever had

[Emperor flippyNips]

Caught up, expect a storm of posts tonight. I definitely don’t want to lynch Luca today so.

UNVOTE:

wya doe

[Luca Blight]

and also since when have I really been getting town read? you said you tr me early on for not knowing there was no day chat. then It flipped when I got busy and wasn't here as much. other than that from what I recall everyone has said the jury is out on me

I'm not really sure what your point is; I don't think I ever said you were getting townread? (presuming you're talking generally)

[Luca Blight]

so what if datisi is really scum & she's just sitting back letting you push me so you take the brunt end of things

That's unlikely; she would have been in a position to maintain her SR on me if she wanted, and I haven't really been 'pushing you' until just now.

[Emperor flippyNips]

To sum up, I believe Tchill and Flippy intentionally distanced themselves from each other early on,

which in turn gave reason for them to be townread

for being aggressive/pushing the game forawrd without risking a making a Town enemy in the process.

[Iconeum]

[Luca Blight]

Oh, that.

Yes, you were Townread by a few (including me) early on, based on activity and making stuff happen, i.e. your Tchill push.

[Emperor flippyNips]

im not good enough to push my scum partner out of the blue and make it natural. also I might add in my first game of not having day chat in a game of mafia

[Emperor flippyNips]

im not good enough to push my scum partner out of the blue and make it natural. also I might add in my first game of not having day chat in a game of mafia

[Emperor flippyNips]

I mean you said you town read me cos of me not knowing day chat was in this game. I dont believe you ever said "that Tchill push looked pretty townie from emp"

[Emperor flippyNips]

[Emperor flippyNips]

Spoiler:

[Emperor flippyNips]

wait that one is better

[Luca Blight]

I mean you said you town read me cos of me not knowing day chat was in this game. I dont believe you ever said "that Tchill push looked pretty townie from emp"

I might not have said it, but I definitely thought it.

And yes, the townslip seemed genuine, but as I said it could easily have been faked.

[Luca Blight]

Flippy, what is your Tchill read anyway? Would you consider lynching him today?

[Emperor flippyNips]

no

[Emperor flippyNips]

he seems pretty universally tr so I'm trusting the group

[Iconeum]

636 finally is more extensive, but alas made up.

'Luca - His whole ISO sucks. Nothing in there is actually substanial at all. All of his reads come across as making stuff up on the fly (a lot of times when he is talking about a read, he gives himself room for said read to go either way). He's not really taking any risks and is in general playing really safe. I really want to see Luca go after something instead of just do nothing. Because a lot of what his ISO is nothing. And anything that like, remotely looks like analysis is really surface level stuff.
54 is just a gut scummy start mostly because I don't like the fact he has to feel like he has to have a stance first thing.'

Did anyone think Luca was shading/not taking a stance? I sure didn't. Because he was.

After this there is a TON of bullshit posts directed at Luca that contain little more then 'waah waah scum is crying' or worse.

I seriously don't feel like Ali is serious about this case he has on Luca, and it feels like the ketchup was 'steered' onto a Luca scumread from the getgo.

A lot of the content in this post is "Ali isn't explaining anything"
thats intentional, that catch-up was mostly for myself.
I was always planing on writing a few posts wraping up my general thoughts. 602 is where I mentioned that I was going to touch up on it, and I followed through on that.

As for this itself, one thing I saw a lot in Luca's ISO was that he was leaving a lot of room in how he was talking about reads for things to change, and he was doing this about like, mostly everything. It really bothered me. He did it for you, he did it for Klick, he did it for Datisi. His play really came across as adjusting his reads to tailor to what was going on at the time.

Why did you think the catch-up was for you?
It wasn't, it was for me to get up to speed and caught up.

None of this is how I see things. You had 'intention' to do those things, but instead during your catchup you decided to completely ignore the relevant stuff. You say you did it for yourself and to get 'caught up', but failed to provide any meaningfull response to actual things happening in game and started pushing your own narrative. Revisiting this later, once we have a flip.

To be honest, going through that post, reading Ali's comments and then reading back to Luca's posts, it's just reminded me why I thought he was scum in the first place. His posts still feel fabricated and manipulative in a way that you "want" to agree with them.I still don't see scum!Ali's motivation here.

Ok if that's your actual point of view on Luca that's fine

. You also like Ali's progression towards scumreading Luca?

This is me accepting you can genuinly feel what you are seeing.

I seriously doubt I ever mentioned Ali having good or better reasons for voting Luca, I've been pretty adamant about my opinion that Ali's case is based on thin air.

Guess I misunderstood you saying "come to terms". I just felt that mine and Ali's reasons are kinda close, so I didn't get why accept mine but not theirs.

Also I have a faint memory of someone saying something along the lines of "Ali explained their reads while Datisi gave shit vague explanations", but at this point I have no idea if that actually happened and who said it if it did.

Did you see the actual reasons Ali provided for Luca? I cannot believe you townread those. I can understand you townreading your white knight, but not for the reasons Ali specified (THIS IS SCUM, LYYYYYYYNCH, BRUUUUH).

I could easily do what you’re saying & have a vote down to have a stance as scum. No issue. I want to actually try to focus & place what I think is a good vote

Only you don't. Once Ali replaced in and this game took a turn towards activity and stuff, there were a bunch of camps being formed and a LOT happened you could have an opinion about. You disappeared completely. To me that reads like you were content letting those players fight it out. But there was no sorting coming from you in any way shape or form.

@luca— how do you feel about Ali?

Actually that goes for everyone

If you had actually read everything, you'd know most players stances.

@Nippy: I think I made it clear that this is town!Ali based on my own experience with 'em

Hmmm. Okay. I’ll trust you 50


VOTE: datisi

This is the most opportunistic vote I've seen all game. Once you see that the Datisi wagon is stalling, and people from both the Scum!Datisi and Scum!Luca camp are starting to look towards you, you hop onto the 'popular' wagon?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Emperor

[Emperor flippyNips]

@icon-- are you trying to kill Ali cos e's scum or?

[Emperor flippyNips]

oh welp. im in a match ill respond to that in a min

[Iconeum]

@icon-- are you trying to kill Ali cos e's scum or?

i think i've made my stance on ali pretty clear

[Iconeum]

oh welp. im in a match ill respond to that in a min

[Datisi]

Did you see the actual reasons Ali provided for Luca? I cannot believe you townread those. I can understand you townreading your white knight, but not for the reasons Ali specified (THIS IS SCUM, LYYYYYYYNCH, BRUUUUH).

For those that you mentioned, I still felt as if they were close to mine, i.e. having a ping about his post but not putting it into words.
Besides, I do think Ali's explained their SR on some of Luca's posts (surface-level analysis, no new thoughts, repeating the same things over and over)

[Klick]

im not good enough to push my scum partner out of the blue and make it natural. also I might add in my first game of not having day chat in a game of mafia

VOTE: Emperor flippyNips