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[Chemist1422]

VC 2.2

Iconeum (1)

- Klick

Klick (1)

- Iconeum

Almost50 (1)

- Luca Blight

Lil Uzi Vert (1)

- Tchill13

Not Voting (3)

- Almost50, Lil Uzi Vert, Datisi

With 7 alive, 4 is majority.

Countdown until Day 2 end: (expired on 2019-09-11 17:30:00)

Notes

Luca Blight is sick and presumably will have lessened activity.
Iconeum is V/LA for the weekend.

[Tchill13]

At the beginning of day one you were the only player that was playing in a manner that wasn't crazy imo.

You have progressively gotten worse as the game went on.

I'm trying to give time to let other people participate but...

[Tchill13]

VOTE: iconeum

Dude was on every wagon that reached L-1.

Dude claimed cop when he didn't have to. Some say scum wouldn't claim dop d1. Well I say scum also wouldn't be on every L-1 wagon unless he's just that aggressive... He could be.

Alisae's last read was a luca/Icon scum team.

He used his action on the player most likely to be killed if town.

If icon is still alive next day phase he will automatically be my lynch. I'm not gonna risk scum skating by on a fake claim to a victory like that. That's on town if scum win by, fake claiming cop d1.

[Almost50]

OK..

VOTE: Icon

If you're right you are doing me a BIG favour bringing me into the spirit of the game.
If you're wrong I get to say "I told you so". It's fun for me either way, and I've got no better option really.

[Almost50]

I belive that is L-1 too. Any quick hammer is a scum claim

[Tchill13]

Haha. Looks like I'm the only one here OK with assuming responsibility.

Or playing at all for that matter.

You can easily replace out if you feel the game is over already or don't intend to play in lylo.

[Tchill13]

I belive that is L-1 too. Any quick hammer is a scum claim

Somebody quick hammer. I'll hard tr you in lylo.

[Tchill13]

Why would I be wrong? And if there's enough reason for you to believe I maybe wrong why are you voting the only claimed PR as we might be heading into lylo?

[Tchill13]

I'll tell you rn if icon flips town and you're still on the board A50 your primary suspect number one

[Almost50]

You can easily replace out if you feel the game is over already or don't intend to play in lylo.

Get me angry enough, cuz that's the only reason I replace out (for fear of saying something that gets me banned)

I belive that is L-1 too. Any quick hammer is a scum claim

Somebody quick hammer. I'll hard tr you in lylo.

Why would I be wrong? And if there's enough reason for you to believe I maybe wrong why are you voting the only claimed PR as we might be heading into lylo?

What other choices do I have?? Do you want me to go back to the not voting pile??

I'll tell you rn if icon flips town and you're still on the board A50 your primary suspect number one

OK. No problem. Let's just hope you're right here and then you can still rub it in my face. Either way I am to blame, one way or another.

[Luca Blight]

At the beginning of day one you were the only player that was playing in a manner that wasn't crazy imo.

You have progressively gotten worse as the game went on.

I'm trying to give time to let other people participate but...

Not buying this at all.

Why is not being ‘crazy’ a reason to townread someone in the first place?

You’re saying I’ve gotten worse, which really isn’t the case; if anything I’ve put more effort into sorting my reads today than I did D1, despite the general lack of activity.

I want a direct example for how my recent play is ‘worse’ than my early play.

[Luca Blight]

Btw I saw earlier that Tchill said if Icon flips green then I’ll become a bigger scumread of his - this feels like he’s setting me up for what would be the game-winning Lynch on D3.

[Luca Blight]

A50, at the moment I'm between you/Icon/Luca as likely scum, and you're mostly on the list because nothing your slot has done has given me any reason to think it's town.

This is good. So what for think about my town case of Luca? Where you puts me and flippy as scum due to poe. He then talks himself into a flippy/tchill scum team.

I don't see why he'd suggest a scum team when he could just push flippy and be fine.

I also don't know how much credit to give him on THIS (the main reason I TR him) because he's still leaning scum on me. He trusts me the least atm and I'm still not sure why.

I think my argument for town Luca would hold more weight if he had opened the day TR'ing me.

Yes its convenient my lock towing of Luca depends on him TR'ing me. If you keep my point in mind though I think it's understandable why I believe he should have opened the day TR'ing me.

He still scum reads me. I'm not sure how to react to that in terms of what scum would do here after pushing a team and one of them flips town. So they go ahead and continue to push the other as scum? Then why even mention the pairing as a team?

If I KNEW icon was town then Luca is probably my next bet at scum among the active slots.

Klick has managed to obtain a TR from me.

This is just such utter bollocks. I am seemingly the only one in this game opposed to an Icon Lynch, yet if he flips Town (after Tchill pushes it through) then I’m the one who must be scum? Tchill has been Tr’ing me all day while gradually discrediting his own read based on nonsensical reasons. He wants others to disagree with his Luca tr, so when it comes to pushing me during LYLO he will appear the one being lead onto my wagon, and he will appear the reasonable one who had tried to read me as Town from D1, but it’s superficial rubbish.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Tchill

[Tchill13]

Dude you have no idea what's going on this game and that's literally the only thing you've been consistently vocal about the entire game.

Why is icon you're strongest tr?

You started out fine and I agreed with what you were pushing early d1. As lore reads and pushes have been made I've disagreed with you more and more.

More effort does not equal better

Early datisi lurked. Billy I thought was TRYING to be ignorant. You seemed like one of the only candidates that I'd be able to work with. You've consistently slid in a direction opposite of that.

You had me and flippy as scum by POE. you then made a scum team of me and flippy to back up your POE reads.

I was CORRECT about flippy. That gets no consideration whatsoever. You haven't even discussed my credibility when it comes to my correct read on flippy. Maybe at least consider my opinion a little more strongly than you did d1 UNLESS you have an explanation as to why I was correct about flippy but shouldn't be given any credit on that read.

You're literally willing to let icon walk to lylo and WHY? You KNOW scum will keep him alive if he's actually town to cause confusion.

You're the ONLY person that strongly TRs icon I believe.

If icon is scum I'm coming for you.

[Tchill13]

Yes Luca is my go to lylo lynch that wins me the game when A50 and LUV haven't even participated.

Get the hell out of here dude. The game doesn't revolve around you.

Why would I set you up as a lynch when datisi, A50 and LUV haven't even played hardly at all?

Nobody hard tr's anyone. Nobody was voting together until the recent icon wagon.

But YES I'm hanging my win on YOU in lylo. Town is so discombobulated atm I could win the game in much easier ways than that if I were scum.

[Luca Blight]

I’m the one who has no idea this game? That’s rich.

I’ve explained in full detail my Icon read, you refuse to accept or apparently even read it.

You’re coming for me regardless of Icon’s flip then? Good to know.

I’m sick atm, as I said earlier. Will continue this tomorrow.

[Tchill13]

I just said if icon flips town it's A50.

If he flips scum it's you.

You don't read as much as I do.

There's a great chance this game is just active town chasing active town.

But we can't lynch datisi/LUV and A50 before endgame.

I refuse to be part of a game that let's a claim like icons get to endgame.

And nobody knows shit when it comes to this game dude. I'm just saying you definitely don't know shit just like I definitely don't know shit. I knew flippy wasn't scum though. I'm sure your tchill scum read will be right. 2nd times the charm.

[Iconeum]

10 days left and you try to quick me during my vla

[Iconeum]

i'm really having trouble with the bullshit you are spewing about my claim

it's not anti-town
it's not scum

it has zero scum benefit
it has town benefit

and you want to quicklynch me during my vla

go ahead and do it, but don't cry 'but mommmy he did all these bad things'

[Datisi]

the asshole part of me wants to quickhammer this now

even though it's a terrible idea

but the thought is entertaining

[Datisi]

If we let Icon live now:
> he sends a message to the person who dies. We're in the same situation as today.
> he sends a message to X, who doesn't read it. X and Icon get into a 1v1.
> he sends a message to Y, who does read it. Icon and Y are confirmed to be of the same alignment.
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@Klick, why are you so in favor of a massclaim if you want to lynch Icon today anyway?

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We let LUV and datisi interact a bit more. Then I'll get to my proposition.

I'm trying to give time to let other people participate but...

Why are you voting then? And you're okay with calling for the hammer?

[Klick]

If the claims show very little town power without Icon's claim then that will have an affect on how much I believe Icon.
Like if there's only one protective/utility role outside of Icon then I'd probably oppose an Icon lynch.

[Luca Blight]

If the claims show very little town power without Icon's claim then that will have an affect on how much I believe Icon.
Like if there's only one protective/utility role outside of Icon then I'd probably oppose an Icon lynch.

This seems fair. I would agree to a mass claim if it’s decided that Icon is today’s Lynch.

[Luca Blight]

VOTE: iconeum
Alisae's last read was a luca/Icon scum team.
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This is a falsehood - if I recall correctly Alisae was starting to townread Icon by the end of D1. They thought the most likely scumteam was Uzi and I.

[Datisi]

And is it worth outing a possible (maybe only) protective for that?

Who do you go after if not Icon, Klick?