Detective Penguin & City of Fogport [Game Over]

[Flavor Leaf]

Am I just some relic, nostalgic for bygone days when we played mafia and judged players on their words and their actions rather than try to make a numbers game out of something that at its core defies numbers?

The funny thing about this is this is literally what I push every game I play in essentially, effectively making that entire post, yet again, moo.

[Flavor Leaf]

Am I just some relic, nostalgic for bygone days when we played mafia and judged players on their words and their actions rather than try to make a numbers game out of something that at its core defies numbers?

The funny thing about this is this is literally what I push every game I play in essentially, effectively making that entire post, yet again, moo.

Take it away, Penguin

[Flavor Leaf]

I refuse to believe 2217 is a genuine post. You made that post to set me off.

VOTE: DOL

Screw you.

And then you vote the main person that essentially only I was pushing

[Day One Wagon]

After some thinking - Chandra, why do you think Pine might be scum? Only 1 scum per hood idea clears only Pine, so you must have something against him

[Day One Wagon]

FL, can you just straight up claim that fish was your shot? Cause for now it looks like you don't know how he died and you're unsure, if you can claim it or not

[Croag]

Hey I missed the past 2 days because I was bottomless brunching for my birthday yesterday lol

I’m at rehearsals today but I’ll be back later and take a read through

[Flavor Leaf]

FL, can you just straight up claim that fish was your shot? Cause for now it looks like you don't know how he died and you're unsure, if you can claim it or not

Very much by design.

This is a scum role fish.

[Day One Wagon]

FL, can you just straight up claim that fish was your shot? Cause for now it looks like you don't know how he died and you're unsure, if you can claim it or not

Very much by design.

This is a scum role fish.

So, could you stop role fish then and claim it wasn't you?

[PenguinPower]

Am I just some relic, nostalgic for bygone days when we played mafia and judged players on their words and their actions rather than try to make a numbers game out of something that at its core defies numbers?

The funny thing about this is this is literally what I push every game I play in essentially, effectively making that entire post, yet again, moo.

Take it away, Penguin

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 2.1

ofrhz [3] - popsofctown, Marquis, Judge Joseph Dredd
popsofctown [3] - Bingle x3
Judge Joseph Dredd [1] - ofrhz
Bingle [1] - PenguinPower
Day One Lynch [1] - Chandra Nalaar

Not Voting [7]

- Croag, Pine, Kagami, Day One Lynch, Vecna, chennisden, Flavor Leaf

With 14 alive it takes 8 votes to lynch.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2019-09-08 20:00:00)

[Kagami]

I bet the mod/spec PT is having a good laugh about something today. FG is batting a thousand on this one.

I was sort of hoping to wake up to an in-depth analysis of Fish's posts and interactions with other players, so I wouldn't have to go back myself. These wagon-based speeches have been pre-written, and that's something town shouldn't do.

FL did not shoot Fish. I have no idea why anyway would think that.

[chennisden]

Almost every wagon sucks ass and you should be ashamed

[Chandra Nalaar]

I'm just going to ignore FL's smarmy bullshit for a while and see if it makes this game less miserable.

[Chandra Nalaar]

After some thinking - Chandra, why do you think Pine might be scum? Only 1 scum per hood idea clears only Pine, so you must have something against him

I dont make agenda based plays like the one you're suggesting. I'm talking about down the road. Please dont put words in my mouth.

[Chandra Nalaar]

Almost every wagon sucks ass and you should be ashamed

Didnt you just say you suspected pops and bingle?

[Day One Wagon]

VOTE: FL

I'm done with him

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

Y'all. Can I please implore you to stop assuming there cant be two scum in one neighborhood. I dont want to lose the game to your crappy setup spec if I die and the mod felt even MILDLY tricksy.

This is true as a genera; aspect. However, we/I are/am not doing it blindly. I am considering powers too. Like, what do you think are the chances for a mod to put 0/1/2/3 unkillable scums in a 17-players setup?? What if you know there ARE 3 players that cannot be killed at night? OK, how about a 1-shot Doctor with unknown sanity? Would you be giving TWO scums those roles, given the other powers already outed?

I've had a post in our neighbourhood detailing much of this considering 3/4/5 scums. I came to the conclusion

there has to be

one scum in the unkillables PT. Exactly one. I also said one would be in the Ninja PT, guaranteed. If the scum are 3 there's no way one of them is a 1-shot Doctor. If they are 4 (most common number in a 17 players game) there's half a chance of it (0-1 scum in our hood), and if they are 5 we are guaranteed one scum in our PT, but only one.

We don't know what your hood does (and I personally do NOT want to know yet) so that is probably going to have an impact.

Finally: JINGLE CLAIMED MILLER, which is a ridiculous claim given the hood he is cannot be targeted to begin with, AND the fact that there's another hood with the Miller modifier. Add the voting powers he has and the fact he is not using them (to appear more townie, when -in fact- the natural townie stance is to be like Vecna).

Btw, we do need your hood to out reads on each other based on night conversations. We don't need to know details if you wish to keep them under wraps for now.

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

I refuse to believe 2217 is a genuine post. You made that post to set me off.

VOTE: DOL

Screw you.

Mate, your play, responses and votes all seem most unnatural and impulsive at best. I won't call them fake, but I know you are capable of doing some analysis.

[chennisden]

Almost every wagon sucks ass and you should be ashamed

Didnt you just say you suspected pops and bingle?

And those aren't wagons

Bingle is voting pops and PP voting Bingle is probably the only good wagon here

[chennisden]

Chandra I agree with the point you're trying to make but not with the way you're making it

[chennisden]

I bet the mod/spec PT is having a good laugh about something today. FG is batting a thousand on this one.

I was sort of hoping to wake up to an in-depth analysis of Fish's posts and interactions with other players, so I wouldn't have to go back myself. These wagon-based speeches have been pre-written, and that's something town shouldn't do.

FL did not shoot Fish. I have no idea why anyway would think that.

Why?

This post is kind of scummy btw

[chennisden]

Hey guys talk to me. Who in this playerlist do you know generally prefers playing scum?

This feels fake

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

This just hit me: WHAT IF the "unkillables" were really not? What if their PT effect does NOT stop a direct kill? I guess that would explain why they seem to TR each other today, under the false assumption that if scum knew that they would have certainly killed one of them.

^^That's not something I would think of. Blame the monkey man for planting the thought in my head.

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

Hey guys talk to me. Who in this playerlist do you know generally prefers playing scum?

This feels fake

It's NAI. Some players nowadays try to ask this (or ask everyone to state what they prefer to play) to break the ice and try to decide if someone should be considered to be more likely scum based on the level of comfort they're showing. It doesn't work most of the time (in some cases it does, but usually only when you know the answer in advance).

On another note, if that Croag guy doesn't play the game properly for the next 72 hours I'm policy lynching him (and I almost never do PLs). All I see is him making excuses to not be present it's become overly and utterly ridiculous.

[chennisden]

Um if you don't read any of the rest of this please read Post 467

I think his townreads are all town because this shit reeks of buddying - (if I'm wrong it's probably on Marquis)

And I feel like his reads on Kuribo and Flavor are "fuck you" reads (and Chandra to some extent) which makes me feel like they're town

I guess what I'm getting at is that his interactions with Chandra Kuribo and Flavor actually have some substance to them, some real emotion, and some real stakes I guess. But his interactions with popsofctown feel really empty, and it feels like an act.

Spoiler: fish monger iso dump

Can you just write one post where you put it all together including the other anti town stuff I don't really want to parse this

My marquis meta is hellaold, but this is, like, town.

Fake read, feels like buddying

+town points for Marquis

Why cant scum be a miller? In a theme game based on gimmicks?

There is probably a scum miller

I guess. I think Pops is just shading early on this game.

Bussing

I'm taking exception to your randomly shooting down productive votes

Youre still overreacting.

But, I am not 'shooting down productive votes' I'm 'engaging in discourse by sharing an opinion that has more breadth than some RVS vote'.

Really GD aggressive

Chandra is town

Pops do you have a guilty conscience? I didn't claim anything for you.

You did, now that I'm looking harder at the game.

Weird interaction with Perry and wrt Pops slot

Marquis Pelican
PenguinP Gork
--The Rest--
Chandra
Kuribo Flavor
Pops

$10 his townreads here are all town and are all people he wants to buddy

RCE isn't dumb. He's, in all honesty, prone to quick judgements and thus rash decisions. Such as accepting his lynch when he is town. idk. Because I feel like scum rce lurkers asp instead of slugging it with flavor

Trying to look better when Pelican flips town

yea I 100 dont buy 2 viggles in a game like this, nor accept RCE counterclaiming vig from boon. sounds like one of those rash things I was mentioning.

There are two vigs good to know

Im under the impression that the vig claim from you is false as well, simply because there would be no reason to claim it, even if true.

The vig claim is true good to know