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Post Post #550 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:33 pm

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In post 543, pisskop wrote:I am mostly looking for feedback and generating talk about it. nothing serious yet.


P: Yea, in the pt he was asking spam about his inactivity. spam is a nonentity rn.
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Post Post #551 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:33 pm

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I would say 1 of the hood members is scum.
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Post Post #552 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:34 pm

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In post 551, gobbledygook wrote:I would say 1 of the hood members is scum.
Likely true, but no way of knowing.
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Post Post #553 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:36 pm

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In post 552, NotMySpamAccount wrote:
In post 551, gobbledygook wrote:I would say 1 of the hood members is scum.
Likely true, but no way of knowing.
Not true, you can get yourself lynched and check the spoilers in the dead thread!
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Post Post #554 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:36 pm

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In post 551, gobbledygook wrote:I would say 1 of the hood members is scum.
Who cares?
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Post Post #555 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:37 pm

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In post 549, Bingle wrote:Why is the hood secret?
I claimed the hood's existence outright because of its power.


We have a factional doctor and a factional kill that we vote on. There are enough of us to vote and matter.

By design town are guaranteed to outnumber scum in the hood, so we currently control both powers. There is also no guarentee that there is any or not multiple scum. role states that every hood slot has a 25% chance to be scum.

I want the more sensible hood members to remain autonomous if possible, to preserve their privacy and to add a security to the hood.
Also its nice to use the hood as a tool to hunt, both inside of it and in this game thread.
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Post Post #556 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:38 pm

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In post 552, NotMySpamAccount wrote:
In post 551, gobbledygook wrote:I would say 1 of the hood members is scum.
Likely true, but no way of knowing.
We can have up to like 5 scum factions in this game, I do not want to think about which scum or who, just focus on hunting first.
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Post Post #557 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:38 pm

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Idea setups aren't Broken by Balance, ever. Too much random not enough balance.

More useful to look at player preferences.

A50 wouldn't go for scum IC, I don't think. He isn't the kind of player who needs the boost, he can talk down his own lynch just fine. Dunno any other claims.
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Post Post #558 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:39 pm

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In post 555, pisskop wrote:By design town are guaranteed to outnumber scum in the hood
As in town have a majority or town have more than any particular faction?
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Post Post #559 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:40 pm

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There is a flat 25% chance for any one hood slot to be given to scum as per the role somebody drew.
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Post Post #560 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:40 pm

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So realistically, there are 0-2 scum in our hood.
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Post Post #561 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:41 pm

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In post 549, Bingle wrote:Why is the hood secret?
We decided to keep membership secret unless a member decided they were fine with outing their participation. (And then proceeded to accidentally out spam.)

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The 25% chance of Mafia was just for the Muscle Sliver
Everyone else had their alignment left unchanged, I mentioned before how the Slivers will automatically and randomly pick players to be made Slivers to fill a certain quota.
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Post Post #562 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:42 pm

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In post 559, pisskop wrote:There is a flat 25% chance for any one hood slot to be given to scum as per the role somebody drew.
No that’s not my understanding of how the hood works

The hood members can be any alignment, Town isn’t guaranteed to have a majority or even a plurality
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Post Post #563 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:43 pm

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lol. dont mind me then. I guess I misinterpreted that.
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Post Post #564 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:43 pm

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We were selected by RNGesus
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Post Post #565 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:45 pm

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In post 539, pisskop wrote:
In post 535, Bingle wrote:
In post 532, pisskop wrote:Ive got a theory that gobbles is scum, and ofrhz may be too. thoughts?
Didn't see anything post vig to support. Not sure I could tell with gobbles. What's the thought with Sgt. Angle?
Quiet in our hood, being what I feel is purposely obtuse, part of the spam push about the same time gobbles started up.
... how am I being purposefully obtuse

Also the spam push wasn’t for inactivity - it was because he had posted in the PT but not in the game thread
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Post Post #566 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:47 pm

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In post 564, ofrhz wrote:We were selected by RNGesus
The bridge god protects.


P: Its a meta read. And also a good pressure.
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Post Post #567 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:48 pm

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In post 565, ofrhz wrote:it was because he had posted in the PT but not in the game thread
why is that something to 'push'?
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Post Post #568 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:49 pm

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Alright, looked up slivers.

Sliver kill happens outside of the sliver thread, decide publicly. No real reason to hide slivers, since they're not confirmed to be any alignment distro and the ability is shared. Sliver doc probably happens inside of the sliver thread to prevent slivers from being taken over by a scumsliver.

Otherwise, ignore it.
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Post Post #569 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:50 pm

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In post 567, pisskop wrote:
In post 565, ofrhz wrote:it was because he had posted in the PT but not in the game thread
why is that something to 'push'?
I thought it was interesting
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Post Post #570 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:51 pm

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I think this is a good train of thought to derive reactions from, and will not therefore comment.

Keep the push going after my death tho! (@ both ofrhz and pisskop)
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Post Post #571 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:58 pm

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I thought the timing of it was maybe indicative of daychat pushing in two separate locations.
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Post Post #572 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:58 pm

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In post 554, Bingle wrote:
In post 551, gobbledygook wrote:I would say 1 of the hood members is scum.
Who cares?
I want to catch scum? Do you...?
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Post Post #573 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:58 pm

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Nah, bingle is scum or dead, or both.
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Post Post #574 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:01 pm

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Not scum.

And scum% in a hood only really matters as a talking point if it has a confirmed different composition than the main thread. Assuming x is scum or y is town in a hood is a good way to lose the game. Like anime UPick.

See: Idea games aren't ever broken by balance, all hood comp arguments are a form of broken by balance.

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