Normal 222: Black Versus White Mafia (Endgame)

[Something_Smart]

Wouldn't it just be "keep Rick from getting confirmed"?

[Rick Dalton]

Nah.

It wasn’t even necessarily a frame risk theory, that’s just me being cocky, but killing Chickadee definitely made my death much more possible, and controlled gamestate.

[The Fonz]

Fonz is lock scum too. He hid out hard at the end of yesterday after the Dalton vs Fonz backed away to make sure Croag got hit and not him.

This is a fucking lie.

Vote: Rick Dalton

No it’s not.

You were far less active the end of the day than when you were coming off.

Just because you don’t think it’s true doesn’t make it so.

I posted four times in a burst after coming off you. I then posted the following day to try to ascertain if there was any chance of rallying the people needed to actually have a shot of lynching you, and made sure I got on Saturday to vote, despite the fact I partied until four AM Friday Night Saturday morning then travelled cross country to watch my football team. Then went out again Saturday night. So the idea that I "hid" is palpable bullshit.

[The Fonz]

Wouldn't it just be "keep Rick from getting confirmed"?

You yourself said tracking him wouldn't confirm him as town. And, trust me on this, he's a tricky SOB to get pressure on regardless because of who he is. Just doesn't seem worth it.

[Almost50]

Fonz is lock scum too. He hid out hard at the end of yesterday after the Dalton vs Fonz backed away to make sure Croag got hit and not him.

This is a fucking lie.

Vote: Rick Dalton

You know what intrigues me? You, PM & RD all pointing fingers at each other. Like, you say PM has a good chance of being scum, but you vote RD who is also calling for PM's lynch. RD says both you and PM are confirmed scum to him despite the fact you're both at each other's throat (you & PM), and so on. It makes it hard for me to tell if one of you is scum, two are scum and distancing, or all three of you are scum and playing us. This is why I am opting to read each player individually and make my own deductions regardless of who's voting whom or who's FoSing whom.

Right now I don't want to lynch any of the three of you. Something's amiss and I can't figure it out.

[Almost50]

A50 were you hatcheting me on PM?

Yes I was. I hope I didn't trim you too much though?

[pisskop]

VC 4.02

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PMysterious

-: penguinpower, Rick Dalton

PenguinPower

-: Almost50, PMysterious

Something_Smart

-: Titus

Rick Dalton

-: The Fonz

Not voting

-: Vaultdweller, Darth Baker, Something _Smart, vorkuta, Lil Uzi Vert
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Lynch Info

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch!

Day 4 ends on 07/10/2019 ((expired on 2019-10-07 23:00:00)).

Titus is vla until Friday.

[The Fonz]

Almost: Yeah its a funny one. There's just a hell of a lot that feels off about PM. He was very much my second suspect a lot of yesterday for all the individual scumminess reasons I list above. Then he goes for Rick, and all of a sudden he's taking a strong stand, and the timing didn't really feel bus-y. But the logic was so contradictory to his earlier push on me that it doesn't feel like a natural thought process.

[Rick Dalton]

I could have been accidentally misrepping. I was basing off memory. My bad if I did.

[Titus]

Mod that should be vla through Thursday

Good night everyone. See you tomorrow afternoon at the earliest.

[VaultDweller]

I am so confused right now. At this point I just want to sheep the leading wagon.

I agree Mumble's claim seems bad.

And while I am trying really hard not to tunnel Rick, I feel like he is trying really hard to pocket me here.

[VaultDweller]

Also, I targeted LUV because I was more focused on catching scum than protecting town. And I didn't target Rick because if he is scum there is no way he would do the NK given that scum knew I was scumreading him.

[Darth Baker]

I could have been accidentally misrepping. I was basing off memory. My bad if I did.

I hope so for your sake, the Emperor is not as forgiving as I am

[PMysterious]

Almost: Yeah its a funny one. There's just a hell of a lot that feels off about PM. He was very much my second suspect a lot of yesterday for all the individual scumminess reasons I list above. Then he goes for Rick, and all of a sudden he's taking a strong stand, and the timing didn't really feel bus-y. But the logic was so contradictory to his earlier push on me that it doesn't feel like a natural thought process.

Okay, I will admit, it didn't seem natural. The reason I wasn't sure about it at first was because there wasn't a lot of strong reasoning to just go after Rick from what I saw at the time. When I went back through it all, that's when my mind was like "Wait a minute, I think Fonz might be onto something". Rick's claims and other activities just don't add up, which shouldn't be the case if he was just a visitor.

I could have been accidentally misrepping. I was basing off memory. My bad if I did.

Misrepping or not, the un-cc'd Tracker claim going unchecked is what worries me. Again, Scum would have easily NK'd you, whether to prove your Tracker claim false or to kill an actual Tracker, but the kill did not happen. The fact that you lasted as the un cc'd Tracker is what concerns me.

[Vorkuta]

VOTE: PM
sheeping papa-dalton because I don't even remember who jigglypuff replaced.
probably a cursed slot and someone scummy

[Something_Smart]

Again, Scum would have easily NK'd you, whether to prove your Tracker claim false or to kill an actual Tracker, but the kill did not happen.

Didn't Chemist who had a bodyguard shot die that night?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

VOTE: PM
sheeping papa-dalton because I don't even remember who jigglypuff replaced.
probably a cursed slot and someone scummy

Thoughts on Mumble’s slot? Didn’t you want that wagon earlier?

[The Fonz]

VOTE: PM
sheeping papa-dalton because I don't even remember who jigglypuff replaced.
probably a cursed slot and someone scummy

Thoughts on Mumble’s slot? Didn’t you want that wagon earlier?

Who's scum, LUV?

[Vorkuta]

VOTE: PM
sheeping papa-dalton because I don't even remember who jigglypuff replaced.
probably a cursed slot and someone scummy

Thoughts on Mumble’s slot? Didn’t you want that wagon earlier?

No wagon
Meh let's try again

Kindly join y'all
VOTE: mumble

[Rick Dalton]

I am so confused right now. At this point I just want to sheep the leading wagon.

I agree Mumble's claim seems bad.

And while I am trying really hard not to tunnel Rick, I feel like he is trying really hard to pocket me here.

I’m trying to solve. You’re town here. I just don’t see a world where you make any of that stuff up not casually truthfully claim it like that as scum.

Me confident in my read on you is all I need. You could tunnel me if you want, but I feel I’m also obv town and scum have done a good job to create a gamestate where they can manipulate my playstyle to being scummy.

This happens, and I have been getting mislynched recently more than I ever have in my 5 years on site, and it’s when I have the correct solve and people are just paranoid of the god that is FL having a for the books scum game.

But like, I’m strong town too. There’s more to me than just my scum game.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: PM
sheeping papa-dalton because I don't even remember who jigglypuff replaced.
probably a cursed slot and someone scummy

Thoughts on Mumble’s slot? Didn’t you want that wagon earlier?

No wagon
Meh let's try again

Kindly join y'all
VOTE: mumble

Well...he's not in the game anymore.....

[Rick Dalton]

VOTE: PM
sheeping papa-dalton because I don't even remember who jigglypuff replaced.
probably a cursed slot and someone scummy

Thoughts on Mumble’s slot? Didn’t you want that wagon earlier?

No wagon
Meh let's try again

Kindly join y'all
VOTE: mumble

It’s PenguinPower.

[Something_Smart]

I should hope you're confident in your read on the confirmed vig...?

[Rick Dalton]

I should hope you're confident in your read on the confirmed vig...?

That’s why I’m disregarding his pocketing attempt line.

I can confidently town read him, i don’t have to worry about him setting me up for a mislynch, and I don’t have to consider him a scum candidate.

My solve is near 100% correct.

[Rick Dalton]

I don’t expect my solve to be 100% correct, but it is close.

My pool is correct. I think Baker can be added to the pool, in theory, because I’ve been forgetting he’s in this game even, and he’s the epitome of NAI here.