Newbie 1959 | Stuff I Found Online Xv | Over

[Saladman27]

You all have the right to remain silent, anything you say can and will be used in my next Mini Normal as flavour.

That being said VOTE: Teacher, you can’t teach newbies.

[Saladman27]

This is what is called RVS, where you claim scum and everyone wins.

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As an expert in newbie quotes myself, it doesn’t quite match up with the “Hi guys analysis”

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I ran a Mini Normal with the flavour of Newbie Quotes.

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Where in that did I say I wanted to hammer someone page 2
Additionally please tell me what is anti-town about self voting during the RVS on the first page? What does it tell you about my alignment if anything?

1. Nowhere, but you opened up an opportunity for a lolhammer or your partner to hammer.
2. In my last game, one player self voted in RVS and everyone jumped on that vote.

So yeah, it’s a really bad and scummy idea to L-1 this early, especially in a 9p game. VOTE: Spartan117

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Plus, no one claims on page 2.

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2. If someone votes themselves and others jump on the wagon and vote him, what does that say about their alignment? What was the alignment of this player in your last game?

Nothing, but it’s anti-town to start the wagon. The player was VT, self voted and did nothing but made him look scummy. The next day he self hammered. UNVOTE:

[Saladman27]

Don’t wanna risk a mislynch, much like Mini 2099.

[Saladman27]

My “experience” in my 5 games, 1 being a mod, was I’ve always fell short in my reads. That, and it’s been 2 months since I actually played a game, I spent the last month modding a game.

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1. 4 games
2. Try not to get lynched, make up shitty reads.
3. Never rolled scum before.
4. Something I call the Crunch read, a certain player, whom I’ve played with, started to become extremely aggresive when everyone was onto him. For town, obvtown for me would be a player who’s extremely bad, scum tend to make slip ups not huge mistakes.
5. AEST, currently I’m active all day from late morning to late night.

[Saladman27]

I voted him to avoid the lolhammer of teacher and now I unvoted for some bullshit reason...

[Saladman27]

Spartman

seems the strangest since he

hammered

you and almost got you lynched.

VOTE: Spartan117

1. I know your knew to the site but hammering doesn’t mean putting someone at L-1, it means to deliver the final vote.
2. Spartman sounds like a bootleg version of the Bartman

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you’re*

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Why dong?

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I’d probably lynch myself to follow the “First Curse”. Every first game (First newbie, First normal and now First newbie as SE) I get lynched in the first three days.

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Even somehow I got lynched in the first game I modded... Not even day 1 and I got access to the dead thread.

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Plus, no one claims on page 2.

Bad post.
If you actually saw what spartan was trying to do there it wasnt to get a claim, nor to lynch. It was to put enough pressure for both teachers and the people on his wagons activity to rise. Scumreading him on such a thin basis is in itself scummy.

Time to bring my meta, if you take a look at my 4 games of experience, you can see that I’m not good at “reading the room”.

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I agree, we need to lynch anyone today, rn I honestly don’t care if it’s a mislynch today, info is better none. So let’s spice things up.
Using random.org I will vote one of the top 2 wagons.
Heads = Spartan
Tails = Dong
random.org says

Tails

VOTE: Dong

[Saladman27]

I used randomness because of my indecisiveness. May I ask why you’re keeping your vote on Merfin?

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As I mentioned earlier, even if I ruined it now, I believe it is a scumbait and I consider this a townie-play.

Lmao, you must be out of your gourd if you think I can do what is called a pro gamer move... I did it both because indecisiveness and get info through a flip. Town needs a lynch today, but I don’t know who to vote for. Tbh, any flip is great info and a great convo starter.

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Actually, VOTE: Spartan for now, I’ll wait for dong to come back from v/la.

[Saladman27]

Currently alignment read is roughly as follows.

Town
Plotinus

Aaron/Teacher

Chibiie

Yoda/George

Merfin

Dong/Salad
Scum

Reading ISOs, what does the slashes mean?

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and calls out saladman for not contributing to in-game scum hunting.

"Saladmans reaction felt very much like scum trying to hope on a wagon, as an SE I expect more from you than your response in #46, I would have hoped more experienced players would understand the full motive behind that game advancing content, no comments on any of the other people who are on Teachers wagon?"

This earns scum points for Spartan as he - as stated before - calls out Salad for not investing in game related content while defensively replying to pressure.
Saladman's Lynch on Spartan is nai for me as of now. Going over rest of game soon

Am I mistaken or did you just say you think me calling out salad for not producing game advancing content is scummy?

Yeah, tbh I find this post (G1mmick’s) more scummier than my bullshit vote.

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I think it’s both a replacement reading the game and active lurking.

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So, I leave and come back and there's 3 new pages???

Anyways, looking at people's activities:

You all have the right to remain silent, anything you say can and will be used in my next Mini Normal as flavour.

That being said VOTE: Teacher, you can’t teach newbies.

This is RVS, so again as with George, no harm, no foul.

Where in that did I say I wanted to hammer someone page 2
Additionally please tell me what is anti-town about self voting during the RVS on the first page? What does it tell you about my alignment if anything?

1. Nowhere, but you opened up an opportunity for a lolhammer or your partner to hammer.
2. In my last game, one player self voted in RVS and everyone jumped on that vote.

So yeah, it’s a really bad and scummy idea to L-1 this early, especially in a 9p game. VOTE: Spartan117

Ok, so he voted for Spartan because of putting teacher at L-1. I can understand that, as I have stated before about my thoughts on IF we had to lynch at that point in the game, I would have thrown my vote on Spartan too.

2. If someone votes themselves and others jump on the wagon and vote him, what does that say about their alignment? What was the alignment of this player in your last game?

Nothing, but it’s anti-town to start the wagon. The player was VT, self voted and did nothing but made him look scummy. The next day he self hammered. UNVOTE:

Don’t wanna risk a mislynch, much like Mini 2099.

I voted him to avoid the lolhammer of teacher and now I unvoted for some bullshit reason...

Ok, so what was the BS reason?

I agree, we need to lynch anyone today, rn I honestly don’t care if it’s a mislynch today, info is better none. So let’s spice things up.
Using random.org I will vote one of the top 2 wagons.
Heads = Spartan
Tails = Dong
random.org says

Tails

VOTE: Dong

Nowhere in his previous posts has he said anything about his thoughts on Dong, yet Dong is one of his choices. Sure, this was after the teacher/Dong back and forth, but still you should have some ideas as to why you think Dong is scum.

I used randomness because of my indecisiveness. May I ask why you’re keeping your vote on Merfin?

Actually, VOTE: Spartan for now, I’ll wait for dong to come back from v/la.

Again, I don't see any real thought as to why. It looks like he is just trying to jump on whatever wagon is there.

Plus, I know that my post count is the lowest but if you look at the actual content, I think Salad has had the least to add. I only mention this because people keep talking about my post count. I honestly think that Merfin added more to the game than Salad. At least Merfin had a post explaining why they voted for someone and had examples.

VOTE: Salad

First, I said for some bullshit reason because I actually forgot why. I put dong on there because they were one of the top 2 wagons. I voted spartan because I wanted to wait for dong, but I should’ve unvoted instead.

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Not necessarily now, but yeah, basically.

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I should probably put my intent to hammer here, @Dong please claim your role.

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There are only 30 hours now (5pm gmt on tuesday I believe), till the deadline, can we get some traction on activity please as we need more discussion before the lynch.

Plus, no one claims on page 2.

Bad post.
If you actually saw what spartan was trying to do there it wasnt to get a claim, nor to lynch. It was to put enough pressure for both teachers and the people on his wagons activity to rise. Scumreading him on such a thin basis is in itself scummy.

Time to do the same strat I guess, VOTE: Dong

L-1

[Saladman27]

To bring some sort of substance that’s probably been said before, scum probably killed George because his posts sounded PR like.

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imo

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//Town
Chibiie - His posts are great, he comes up with great analyses and supports them. (I like 131, 151 and 362 especially)
Spartan - Even though we had a bumpy start, his analytical posts are great. (too lazy to link them but some favourites, 91, 151 and 222)
Aaron - Highlight: 351 and I’d like to know what your reads are now after Dong and George is flipped

//Null
Teach

//Scum
G1mmick - His last post in D1 was a vote on me, he said he was gonna explain it but Dong got lynched. First post in D2, voted me because he didn’t like a dong lynch, which is hypocritical because in 325, G1mm1ck said he was chill with the lynch. One of his arguments (355) against me felt like he was just going along with the other people on my case.
Yoda - Might be coincidence but in 186, his top 3 SRs were Dong (mislynched) George (NKed) and me (being wagoned).

Yoda might be a fluke but I’m confident in Gimmick. VOTE: Glmmlck

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I finally read ISOs, hooray.

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I don’t get what you quite mean, you were alright with the dong lynch yet you disagreed with dong personally lynched?

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It’s currently 1am, I’ll probably respond after 8 hours of sleep.

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What changed your read on Salad between days?

@Chii, I’m wondering what made my posts chill!town to chill!scum.

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@Yoda, who do you think is “my partner”?

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Aaron is an example, he's been talkative, shared thoughts and his effect on people was positive, so people trust him, however, I can also say Salad-Gimm1ck is an example.

Gimm1ck became pretty pushy against Salad and so Salad voted against him

. These are humans habits.

Gimm1ck wasn’t really pushy. While yes I should’ve prob didn’t vote him right off the bat, I voted him because his argument against me was just a regurgitated version of other people’s case on me.

Salad:

I think Salad is Scum simply because of his newest post.
Using a Random number generator to choose a wagon, seems really scummy, I get that it was to "spice things up" but I feel like scum would hide "Randomness" into their votes.

Just as an excuse to vote someone without an actual reason.

I used randomness because of my indecisiveness. May I ask why you’re keeping your vote on Merfin?

Actually, VOTE: Spartan for now, I’ll wait for dong to come back from v/la.

Again, I don't see any real thought as to why.

It looks like he is just trying to jump on whatever wagon is there.

Plus, I know that my post count is the lowest but if you look at the actual content, I think Salad has had the least to add. I only mention this because people keep talking about my post count. I honestly think that Merfin added more to the game than Salad. At least Merfin had a post explaining why they voted for someone and had examples.

VOTE: Salad

-snipping my quote so that it's not adding to the wall of text-

First, I said for some bullshit reason because I actually forgot why. I put dong on there because they were one of the top 2 wagons. I voted spartan because I wanted to wait for dong, but I should’ve unvoted instead.

So, you are basically saying that you will just +1 whatever the biggest wagon is currently?

Not necessarily now, but yeah, basically.

I honestly do not like this. While yes, having a flip day one is beneficial to town,

you should not be mindlessly hopping on to a wagon for the sheer sake of having a wagon

- this is personally a scummy mindset.
I generally feel that town would have a wagon going on a scumread/lean and be pressuring that slot at that current moment - having a filler post of 'I'm going to +1 the biggest wagon' without making significant attempts to wagon onto another person you personally feel is scummy (or providing a reason to +1 the wagon), I classify that as scummy.

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@Teach, who do you think is “my partner”?

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@yoda, if you had to choose one person from your town list to be “my partner” who would it be?

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VOTE: Chiibie

Is there a reason to vote him other than his change in opinion of me?

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@Chibiie, While Frost is V/LA, what do you think is his motive to SR you specifically?

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Intent to Self Hammer

I claim VT, if anyone wants to ask any final questions before my or chibiee’s hammer, feel free.

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I thought about claiming PR to save my neck but I think that would backfire.

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Gimm1ck/Yoda, Teacher is a null for me.

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Tbh, I think the real PR isn’t cc’ing because they might get NKed. AFAIK, Gimm1ck has posted nothing hinting at a PR before his claim and IMO the claim was a way to find scum’s next target.

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I mean, if you guys want to ask me questions, now’s the time, I guess.

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Town
Aaron, Your run of the mill analysis townie.
Chiibiie, Great posts, maybe too good.
Spartan, He’s been great from the beginning imo.

Null
Yoda
Teach

Scum
Gimmick, Not only he contradicted his own opinion about the Dong lynch, he also just regurgitated everyone else’s argument about scum!me.

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Good night everybody!

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I’m definitely nominating Chiibie for the Up and Comer scummy, if only I could write good.